Anybody Think Its Time For Another Server Merger?

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anybody think its time for another server merger?
 Asura.Eiryl
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-02-09 14:13:06
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You can pay $36 to jump to asura, buy your (crocea etc) and jump back

Or pay someone $36 get it delivered, plus 50m (It's a pretty hot deal comparatively, tbh)
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By K123 2025-02-09 14:17:07
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For the record I wasn't advocating RMT, I neither buy gil or server transfer (or play FFXI anymore). Faced with the two choices you'd be really dumb to pay more for less and when it is also effectively RMT if you go to get something for 20M or more less though.
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By Jetackuu 2025-02-09 15:04:33
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no, the mere idea is stupid.
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By Bahamut.Academic 2025-02-09 15:11:12
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Cerberus.Kylos said: »
SE will never do it unless it's absolutely necessary.

I'm curious what is "absolutely necessary" in their POV, I mean there are several servers that is pretty low pop. Might be a timezone issue but I recall when I took a trip to Siren (IIRC) and my old endgame server of Ragnarok, and both barely cracked 300 people online during EU peak-hours.

But, If I'm being completely honest I think it's fine as is. They run a discount campaign at least twice a year at this point (when most people take a shopping trip to Asura) it's pretty trivial.

I saw someone suggested joint AH system between the servers, the IT person in me just cringe at the idea, I can't imagine that ever happen with the limitations they already experience, that should probably happened over a decade ago when they made the AH combined from all the cities.

At this point after playing for around 20 years, I probably been on all servers at some point (where Bismarck, Shiva, Odin, Ragnarok and Cerberus been where I spent most of my days in the 75-abyssea era at), in 2025 I think Bahamut and Odin hit the sweet spot on feeling like an active server, nowhere near the culture that Asura experience, no real RMT yells outside of ML/JP and practically no mercs.

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Shiva.Thorny said: »
If people aren't willing to pay $18 to transfer

Eiryl is right. I have seen some players paid to transfer to Asura just to buy stuff from the AH then paid again back to their servers. That's silly.

I don't think it's necessarily silly. People might want to take "advantage" of the generally lower prices on Asura, and supply on certain items but are not interested in all the other things that Asura are known for.
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By Zehira 2025-02-09 15:43:19
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Jetackuu said: »
no, the mere idea is stupid.

Either way, devs don't read big ideas.


Bahamut.Academic said: »
I don't think it's necessarily silly. People might want to take "advantage" of the generally lower prices on Asura, and supply on certain items but are not interested in all the other things that Asura are known for.

You still proved Eiryl's point. No one in Asura cares. My bad, the OP was just gaslighting dead servers.
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By Phoenix.Iocus 2025-02-09 15:51:56
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
I feel like a lot of the desire for merging is coming from wanting to force acquaintances that don't want to transfer to come with you.

Yeah this is my perception too. People don't want to server transfer because then they lose all their social connections. But server merging is this ideal solution where they don't have to risk what they have and then more people will = better server. I intentionally play on a low pop server, more =/= better. I don't randomly need more strangers slowing down my queues because people won't go to servers that fit what they are looking for in a server experience.

The robust AH and larger server population exists, you just have to server transfer for them. If you can't stand that you haven't made your own server great again, then join one that better describes what you want. You can even convince your friends to go with you if they are your friends.
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By Bismarck.Johnb 2025-04-06 22:50:35
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This server is pretty low population in NA time around 400 count. JP primetime is about 600 server count though. There are no "merc" yells on this server by the way except for some job points/exemplar points RMT thing. It can be frustrating to find people to do things, for sure. There is low stock on some +2 necks sometimes, but plenty of REMA materials on sale. The tough part can be finding people to do odyssey/omen/sortie since it seems most people are in a static already.
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By Draylo 2025-04-06 23:07:04
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I've always said they should do it again. Low numbers like that are demoralizing and when people return and see that it makes them quit. Don't see any benefit to leaving them, it doesn't need so many servers. Could argue the benefit it has to SE with server transfers but they are also losing players. Too many ppl take the sea all number as an indicator of health (especially on those other servers)
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By Shichishito 2025-04-07 03:42:10
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Some day those graveyard servers will be widely popluated and prosperous again!

If we merge and close those servers now the dream is dead for good!


Bottom line is as long as they make more profit from server jumps as the running of those graveyard servers costs them nothing gets closed or merged.

But hey, RMT activity doesn't affect you.
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By RadialArcana 2025-04-07 03:42:13
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Server merges are bad, they already offer cheap server swaps and that is enough.

I understand the point of people coming back to lower pop, but server merges make people quit who area already playing.

Name loss (not only your name but people around you that you were familiar with), community loss, unable to do content when they want and also the negative messaging of actually doing a merge in the first place. An official merge isn't just a mechanical thing, there is a lot of psychology that comes into play.

This is why XIV will also never do merges.
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By Shichishito 2025-04-07 05:25:53
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there is already a need for merges on 14?
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By RadialArcana 2025-04-07 05:49:46
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They have needed them on some servers for a long while, but they will never do them becasue doing a merge is announcing to the world that they need to do merges.

It's like a boxer saying they might retire, if he was to say that then there is no might anymore because he has now changed how people view him anyway. If XIV announced they were doing merges on the smaller servers the media would report on it and more players would leave because of it, it's a destructive act because it implies the game is dying. So they will never do it, it goes against the narrative of the company and the players that are emotionally invested in the success aspect of the game.
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By Asura.Sechs 2025-04-07 06:34:51
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I think there could be merit to this point, about showing your "weaklness" publically and what that brings etc.
It does make sense.

Altough in the case of FFXI specifically I'm not sure it's a particularly relevant point.
I doubt them or anybody else care that much at this point.
So if they're not doing server merges I'm leaning to think the main reasons are probably others than that you just exposed.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-04-07 07:28:28
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Bismarck.Johnb said: »
This server is pretty low population in NA time around 400 count. JP primetime is about 600 server count though. There are no "merc" yells on this server by the way except for some job points/exemplar points RMT thing. It can be frustrating to find people to do things, for sure. There is low stock on some +2 necks sometimes, but plenty of REMA materials on sale. The tough part can be finding people to do odyssey/omen/sortie since it seems most people are in a static already.
Then pay 15 bucks to move to Asura, Bahamut or Odin. Those on low pop servers have their group of friends they happily do stuff with and dont need mercs and PUGS.
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By K123 2025-04-07 07:48:38
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RadialArcana said: »
cheap server swaps
£18 per account and when most people have multiple accounts isn't cheap. Should be a fiver at most.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-04-07 07:52:30
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If you have multiple accounts, you probably dont need mercs or pugs.

Its more likely you ARE the merc and are looking for more clients. In which case, pay the 15 per account. Consider it the cost of doing business.
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By K123 2025-04-07 08:08:12
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
If you have multiple accounts, you probably dont need mercs or pugs.

Its more likely you ARE the merc and are looking for more clients. In which case, pay the 15 per account. Consider it the cost of doing business.
I merc when I play but I don't sell gil so it's not business.
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By RadialArcana 2025-04-07 08:12:12
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K123 said: »
RadialArcana said: »
cheap server swaps
£18 per account and when most people have multiple accounts isn't cheap. Should be a fiver at most.

Server change is 1/2 price during welcome home campaigns, they do them 4 times a year.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-04-07 08:16:16
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Even half price is overpriced

It should be free. We know why it isn't.
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By RadialArcana 2025-04-07 08:18:32
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Not for a one off journey, it's only overpriced for carpet bagging.
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By K123 2025-04-07 08:23:50
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£9 is still pretty steep, £6 is a fair price IMO. I'm already on Asura though - forgot what price it was per account when I moved in 2016.
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By Bismarck.Ravenously 2025-04-07 09:38:10
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People don't want to be the one to lead/organize for content they want and that gets exposed when they play on a server where they can't send "AeonicThreeZones" a tell and pay 25m.
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By Bismarck.Drakelth 2025-04-07 11:15:40
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As someone one bismarck. The low population can be a head ache at times but I think the benefits outwthe negatives atleast for me. A lot of newer or returning players will never organize anything. That holds the. Back more than the population imo. If you're not willing to organize for what you want you get the left overs of those who do.
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By Bismarck.Ravenously 2025-04-07 11:25:12
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I love our server :3
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-04-07 11:34:24
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You can have low pop server, or you can have mercs and pugs and a gorillion bots at Locus camps.
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By Godfry 2025-04-07 11:37:08
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
You can have low pop server, or you can have mercs and pugs and a gorillion bots at Locus camps.

If you don't like bots, come to Asura. We get our ML 50s legit. I have been overnighting almost every night. Commitment.
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2025-04-07 11:42:53
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Bismarck.Ravenously said: »
I love our server :3

Bismarck is where I was born. I remember being a lvl 10rdm/war and being told I was *** terrible at every corner.
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By Godfry 2025-04-07 11:53:21
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Bismarck.Nickeny said: »
I remember being a lvl 10rdm/war

Runefencer at home...
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By Bismarck.Drakelth 2025-04-07 14:34:19
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Bismarck.Ravenously said: »
I love our server :3

Agreed, most everyone is fantastic and we have some really knowledgeable players.
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By Bahamut.Negan 2025-04-07 14:39:23
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Jetackuu said: »
no, the mere idea is stupid.
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