Eventide Server

After witnessing WoW's demographic shifts from Classic vs. Retail servers, I also do not believe the private servers hurt retail.

Retail players and Classic (Roz FFXI) enjoys like different things about the game. And, to be frank, classic XI is an entirely different game from Retail at this point.

It is like arguing that Old School Runescape is stealing FFXI players. Like, maybe? Some perhaps? But they are really entirely different crowds.

Ya, maybe if NO options exists for classic, private or otherwise, said classic players would go to Retail. But it is just as likely they would play something else.

I have no issues with private servers. I have found that I enjoy Retail more overall (NOT SORTIE tho).

Source for data - "trust me bro" (aka anecdotal)

They really aren't different games, only the pacing is different. The same mechanics are at play, even things down to exping. I don't get this whole "they are completely different games"

The pacing doesn't make it a completely diff game.

Miss you buddy! :P

Idk

When was the last time you were able SA/TA a Whm to get them killed? :P

Deliberately obtuse man is deliberately obtuse. More at 11.

SCH can do it better

de-mained, RIP.


Nope its true. The numbers are diff, but it still plays overall the same. Statics/LS for higher end content (sortie, dyna D, etc), solo content, EXP as content. You have everything you had in the 75 cap, in the current game all complete with reskins. The only difference is things dont take literal hours to accomplish, you dont need needless amounts of bodies (even people are soloing/low manning tons of stuff in that p server), and the numbers are smaller. The same concept of gear swapping, cooperative play in SC/MB is still there. The familiar strats for NMs are still being used such as kiting, zergs, pre buff zergs, etc. People are just hung up on nostalgia and exping as content, ridiculous really.

Draylo gleefully reaches for the lotion and kleenex


Literally "if you ignore everything that makes them different and boil the entirety of the games down into laughably vague context, they're exactly the same!" lmao

It's funny how everyone but you is capable of acknowledging they're different. Gotta stick to that script, don't you?

Honestly I think that you’re right in a certain sense. The thing that’s missing for me in modern retail is just the sense of exploration. The power creep is so high and we have no new areas to explore. So I get feeling that reminds me of my first foray into retail when I play and see these old areas packed with life.

First I love the reference to Shawshank, second “how could you be so obtuse?”, I’m not really sure what this thread did to warrant being demained when the conversation had trended largely positive. Perhaps Rooks or another could DM so I don’t make a similar thread and it get delisted in the future.

It is pretty simple to be honest, Homstar comes into every thread and shits them up by directly going to personal attacks and his usual act. IDK how he thinks its somehow worse that people who actually play the real game are frequenting a forum for said game, compared to him who admits he doesn't even play FFXI yet he is on these threads in a heartbeat lol. It is too funny seeing him pull the personal attack cards out when he has nothing to stand on.


Man... sense of exploration? Every single private server that bops into existence is literally using all content we have all done a BILLION times over. They are taking content that is literally two decades old, how in the world can you say that has any sense of "exploration"? Not to mention that in 99% of cases you are literally sneak/invis thru every single zone. People blast thru every single mission on every one of these private servers. Everything has been explored, mapped out, done, nothing is new or considering to be unexplored.

If you compare that to retail, we are still discovering things about content and things in this game to this day. It is still changing and having things added to it over time. P servers don't have ***added to it except the same recycled garbage with terrible code that will def have bugs. Not having no new areas to explore has 0 to do with power creep. It has everything to do with dwindling support for this game from SE. When Abyssea was at the end of its life, people thought it would be impossible to continue past that due to how powerful we got. Then they released voidwatch and threw everyone on their ***. It just is a matter of them creating content that resets things and continues like they were. Nobody is in old zones because theres not much need to be, they forced people to revisit with NMs in for trials or voidwatch, every so often they are revisited for some things, but every MMO is like that.

I see every p server and evangelist trying to convert real XI players, as a detriment to retail in every sense. At this point its just laughable to see yet another p server that is destined to be doomed appear here, but whatever nobody is saying you shouldn't/can't play there, they are just tired of the recruitment posts here.

I could write a whole book on this, people are just completely blinded by nostalgia. I'd love to go back and see every goon that argued with me and see if they are still playing. I bet you 90% of them have quit by now. That is not the real FFXI in any sense.

You can write it all out and see way more similarities than differences. It just boils down to the pace of combat and progression. If that means a completely diff game to you, even tho the core of the gameplay is the same, then we just have different opinions. Guess its so much fun handicapping yourself to progress at a snails pace. You literally can see the major difference right in that guys post, nostalgia. He wants to "explore" the two decade old areas and content, it is literally just nostalgia goggles bolted on like every one of these servers.

I guess when you haven’t played certain content in decades it feels fresh seeing it filled with life, love, and enjoyment. But to be honest I don’t really have the energy to argue with anyone about the merits. If ps don’t bring your joy I invite you to just ignore this thread or any others I make about it in the future. Life’s too short to be bitter.

Sure, it happens in retail every day. Too bad most take it for granted and there will be a day you won't be able to return, what a shame such a beautiful game is neglected by its so called fans too but I blame SE for that. I'm not bitter, just giving my opinion like yall are, not seeing me jump right to the personal attacks, so not sure where you are reading bitter.

Draylo literally cannot ignore this kind of thread because his life is completely and utterly empty outside of a game that has been declining for years. He consistently goes out of his way to *** and moan in the private server threads any time they pop up. He recycles the same 3 or 4 impotent talking points and then wistfully bemoans the death of retail as though he were speaking of a prematurely-departed lover.


You didn't do anything. The retail crowd here is just so pathetically fragile that the mere sight of a single topic about a private server causes them to clench their *** tight enough to turn coal into diamonds.


This is such a laughably ironic take from someone who routinely writes mopey posts about the death of Timegate: The Game.

I don't think it's ridiculous. SE seems they only play a mixed nostalgic game of modern retail. They just will never play the endgame content

Maybe take it to the DM's if you wanna be hostile with one another boys. I don't want this thread to get locked.

The mods will probably lock it anyway when one of the retail users starts threatening self-harm because of the overwhelming trauma endured by glancing at the title of a single private server thread.

https://www.reddit.com/r/FFXIPrivateServers/

Just remember, when you post on FFXIAH you are discussing with retail players. Everyone has a mindset. Some have growth mindsets and some have fixed mindsets.

The only one being hostile is Homsar, like usual. My life is so utterly empty, I can only aspire to be like him and troll around forums of a video game that I no longer play while judging others on my soapbox. One day I'll be as cool as him I guess.


It is when they try to spin it like some new revolutionary thing when this happens every time a new server bops into existence. Like how many times can you grind from lv1 to 75, doing the same old quests and missions and "content" and act like its fresh? Some people are just so blinded by nostalgia. The vast majority of them just end up exping as content and then quitting. Why don't they just go to retail and group up and do that in different ways? Retail has an even worse EXP grind lol.

We know, that's why you intentionally come to the private server subsection of this forum and *** in literally every single topic made here. It must be hard for you that almost all recent interest in FFXI is related to either FFXIV or Private Servers.


"These damn private server EVANGELISTS come here SHOVING THEIR THREADS IN OUR FACES because they're just BLINDED BY NOSTALGIA and they are DETRIMENTAL TO RETAIL IN EVERY SENSE!" - Draylo in every single private server topic.

Like holy ***, get a *** grip lol

My posts are generalized, not aimed at anyone. You just keep trying to use personal attacks behind a anonymous account. Yet I need to get a grip, right.

Intentionally coming to a p server subsection is clicking a thread on the front page with "XI" labeled next to it only. You really are reaching lol. Let me repeat, you don't even play the game. You do not play FFXI and haven't for a long time, you don't care at all about the game and yet you are frequenting a forum dedicated to it to rush to the aid of private servers anytime the discussion comes up. Yikes, and you are talking about me?

It isn't hard for me at all, you put way more energy into this than me. I don't need to go dragging RL into it, but you know nothing about me just like I don't know anything about you or this thread creator, I give my opinion like everyone else did here based on their own experience and viewpoint.

That means nothing. Coming in to a private server thread spamming the same tired negative generalizations is a hostile thing to do.


Except you knew from the get-go that this was a private server thread. The thread is literally titled 'Eventide Server' lol. You also know it's been de-mained and you still keep intentionally coming here, over and over to spout the same whiny ***. There is literally zero reason for you to come into these topics except to make the same complaints.


I do play FFXI on Horizon.


I do, which is why I still periodically browse a site about the game. I also go on the FFXI subreddit.


Literally the only thing I do to "rush to the aid" in these topics is point out how petulantly sad the retail crowd is that they throw the same pathetic little shitfits every time a private server thread is made.


It takes no energy to point out how pathetic the whiners here are because they keep trotting out the same tired whining. This is just something I do to kill boredom while at work. You intentionally come into topics about things you don't like to whine about them and sling insults at internet randos every time you see a mention of Horizon. You've literally posted screenshots of yourself doing so lmao

I do think a fresh start can be more fun sometimes. Is it wrong I like to replay other Final Fantasy games I have already beaten before? I have completed like 10% of Horizon's content and have one job level 75, so that means I play a little. I think the big reason why they designed content to stay 75 and have no trust system is because people want a real social experience. I have met some players who said they have made a final decision that they will stick with Horizon as a private server player permanently. You can't say people don't have to do LB quests to break limits of more than 75 so they can experience it like it's a classic server. It just doesn't work that way.

I met you during a Primed for Adventure event last year. You seemed kind of like an anti-social player. No hype, no motivation, and no word spoken. But nevermind that, I was only helping heal you and others. At the end, one of SE staff transformed their group into different types of mandragora. I think that was you who quickly ran away from the group out of embarrassment and then immediately came back for a photo. How adorable! Me Mithra the Red was just cheering you up! :)

Not more hostile than directly personally attacking people who you have no idea what their lives are like. Pretty hostile if you ask me lol. That alone shows you care more than me that you are so angered you resort to personal attacks.


That isn't FFXI


So the same energy I am putting in. I literally missed the first 3 pages and came in to say my opinion that they are not two totally different games, and you decided to blast me instead of the other 4 people that commented before me lol.

First, nobody has said its wrong or that you shouldn't and can't play on that shitty server. That is your choice and nobody here cares to dissuade you from it. We were just pointing out how annoying the advertising is for these trash servers and then our opinions on why we think they suck. Nobody at any point wants to force you to stop playing, I couldn't care less what video games you play. It is only my opinion that I feel its really lame they all turned their back on the real game and disparage it at any chance they can, not real fans if you ask me.

FFXI has had social experiences since day 1. There is still social experiences, you literally need statics to complete sortie and odyssey. They are notoriously difficult to multibox for the vast majority of people, and a lot of people created statics and were forced to participate with others. I know a lot of people who multi boxed for years who were forced to finally join statics to complete the content. Yet people complained about that too, I personally think its because SE gave people the R0 gear way too early and they didn't care to work towards just augments. Sortie itself is just boring, so that didn't keep people hooked like Omen and Escha did, they really blew that one.

Also, you are completely misremembering. It's a live stream where the chat is cut off from the feed... Why would I speak in the chat? I participate to support them almost every stream and I'm glad they are doing at least something even tho its trivial. IDK where you are getting "anti-social player" when if that was true I wouldn't even be there.

Also, that is my Mandragora Baton... I used that to turn people into the mandragoras, not the community team.

People said in the past, FFXI didn't count because it's a MMO. Are they not real fans? The only ones who think otherwise are from FFXIV who happen to be WoW players. lol


That's it? Like no more regular missions you need to team up with anymore? I am not sure how that's FFXI to me.


They really did.


Okay, I was misremembering but why not? What's wrong with it? You will find a plenty of chatty players on Horizon if you play.


Ahh, I see.

You seem to be mistaking pity and derision for anger. It's sad that a grown adult like yourself chooses to come and *** every time you see private servers mentioned.





Every single time lmao



lol


Well, you see, in concussion victim Draylo Land, you can arbitrarily force yourself to play in a way that nobody is interested in because it's wildly inefficient compared to other methods, so that's the same as having a robust community actually interested in playing that way where it's the intended method of progress.

And if that's not good enough for you, you can engage in once-per-day timegated content where you can't actually socially interact with people because you're too busy rapidly swapping gearsets and spamming WS to ensure that you don't lose the meager progress you can make because you failed to stagger something once.



lmao you disingenuous hack. Draylo genuinely believes that you're not a real fan if you won't pay SE ~$200 per year for a game you don't enjoy.

Let's be real...

The only reason tons of people play on Private Servers is because they are free to play. If retail ever goes free to play, it is sure to see thousands of people coming to play it as the biggest turn off about it right now is the fact you have to pay but on top of that, you have to navigate POL to pay.

So it's a pain in the *** to pay to play, and once that gate gets removed, if it ever does, then more people than are on any private server will go to play it.

I guarantee that if you had to pay to play on a private server that you wouldn't.