Continued Prime Weapon NA Review

Have at it guys. Topic for good or bad opinions and discussion regarding the most current ultimate weapon PRIME.

Whether you think it is a PRIME failure or a PRIME opportunity to obtain a hard worked for FFXI weapon, here's a good place hosted by FFXI-AH to voice your opinions.

We should be able to buy Gallimaufry with Crysta via the MogStation.

Fujito should authorize 100 million gallimaufry to my account asap i can't believe square enix would do such a thing so i am here to complain about this 20 year old video game

Why is it only NA review? Where's the UK or EU review? What about NZ? Folks in Antartica should also have their say. Or is it all about 'Murica'?! God I love bacon and blowing things up.

Yep, I was just coming back to include everyone. Saying NA is just an old habit from way back when it was mainly JP and NA. Of course these days the FFXI-AH forums include people with nationalities all over the globe!

These days? Lol, I've been on this forum for well over 13 years, at least. Sadly, EU players have always been in the minority. No love for us. </3

Yeah, ffxi has been around awhile thinking back on it.

I always appreciated the EU player base. Keeps ffxi rolling through all hours and who doesn't like the odd dual language discord conversations.

Oh yeah, "Murica". Have you seen Team America World Police, I'm sure you have, funny as hell. Maybe not correct or politically correct, but it's funny.

I once had a dynamis LS with mostly NA and EU, with one JP player who was probably the best of all of us and he could only communicate with auto translate and 1-2 word answers at other times. Those were the days.

Budweiser and Heineken???

Try being from NZ ;-;

as a sailor and hiker, I have to say you live in my paradise^^

I don't even get why the last one was locked, it looked really tame compared to almost any thread on here... Not like that other thread where people literally went ape trying to stop different opinions on a vanity shield from being a thing lol

because it wasn't about how tame the arguments were; the thread literally wasn't for that


that y'all failed to understand that from the get-go and shifted onto complaining about who's opinion was more valid than the others for x/y/z reason was already derailing the thread.

tbf draylo didnt do anything personally but yeah. that's why. it wasnt a discussion thread, it was just a feedback box. it's like back when we had separate threads for dev posts and dev discussion (people *** that up too but anyway)

yeah, i guess i should clarify "y'all" meant in the most general sense

TBF, it was pretty unreasonable to ask for people's opinions on a new, potentially controversial process and not expect people to respond to others' opinions.

It's not unreasonable at all, it's asking people to be adults. If you want to ***on each other for not agreeing with your exact opinion do it in one of the other 100 threads that it happens on a daily basis. It really isn't that difficult. "Post feedback about the stage 3 upgrade process". We know exactly what that is and what you need to do for it. "In the future, this is where we'll also post feedback about stage 4, stage 5, and weapon balance". Very simple.

You must be new to the internet

Nope, in fact on most other places on the internet, off topic banter isn't tolerated at all and is automoderated. Just cause XIAH threads tend to become cesspools after the first page doesn't mean it's acceptable behavior.

You asked "Just write down how you feel about the prime weapon forging process (as we know it right now), what you think could be changed, etc.."

You wanted people's thoughts and feelings, of course that's going to create controversy. Expecting people to not interact with others' thoughts and feelings is unreasonable.

It'd be like asking a group of hard right conservatives and far left liberals, hey guys, what do you think of the Supreme Court's ruling on Roe vs Wade, but please don't argue.

If you've got the maturation level of a kindergartener then yeah, I guess restraining yourself is pretty hard. Asking people to write down their opinions and thoughts is not the same as asking people to debate why their idea is the best one. Grow up.

We're good and off topic now for sure!

Anyone see any movement on the JP side of things or are they ok with the rollout?

ITT: Having a reasonable expectation of people to debate is immature and cause for "grow up" comments. I can see why the original thread was a failure in your eyes.


I think starting it with this level of aggression probably didn't help either.

Oh please. That had nothing to do with people bellyaching at each other, arguing about mercing and RMT and its place in FFXI, and why mercing and RMT are the reasons that the weapons should be the way they are (as examples). That's exactly the dumbass circular arguments and usual shittery that I was talking about, and I was proven right.

I asked this and another user looked into it a bit, I think it’s in the update thread. General idea was cautious concern and waiting to see what phase 4 was like before drawing a conclusion.

That was just a few users though and I recall some criticism from one of their livestreams but not what exactly. I looked for more discussions but came up empty. Their perception and feedback will probably be more important in the long run if there is to be any change or improvement.

i believe manque was the one who went to various blogs and asked for users' opinions, but it was ~4-5 people at most. their responses were in the lines of "well, we don't know the full picture yet, so i can't really say for sure" to "too early to say" to "i look forward to taking it one step at a time over however long it takes". i'd assume these blogs also have a more favorable opinion of the game, which is also why they'd bother maintaining blogs in the year of our vana'diel 2023, which doesn't necessarily align with general public. maybe it does. who knows.

i vaguely skimmed a freshly picked chat while i was looking at the reveals and saw some incredulity; funk also mentioned that some jp users were likening it to the original alexandrite grind with "life imprisonment" and "people have lifespans".

Has this game ever offered a higher opening payment then made it lower on subsequent tiers?

Additionally, couldnt the cost be found by dat mining?

can't recall a time it has, unless we consider "alternative" unlock methods lower cost (i.e. ws empyrean unlocks, augment unlocks perhaps? but it's reaching a bit here).

server-side afaik.

It was posted in either discord or the update thread but people checked the text tables and it only had placeholders for the galli and stone values

I looked at the dats and the amount of galli, item, and name of the item were all variable. Apparently that comes from server data, so we won’t know until someone finishes one