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By Viciouss 2020-03-12 11:03:01
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he doesnt strike me as just an "orange man bad" type

Vic is trying hard to prove Hideka wrong today.

Nah. Thats all you.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-03-12 11:05:42
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And Oz is probably not far behind.
 
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By Cerberus.Hideka 2020-03-12 11:10:05
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Let's enjoy the Trump ***show and buy stocks while they are low.

anything hitting sub 10, and at at least a 20% loss so far is going to be a good dip purchase for low budget investors.
 
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By Cerberus.Hideka 2020-03-12 11:30:49
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Harima Kenji is the Ultimate Protagonist.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-03-12 11:39:24
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I’m fine with some degree of criticism of Trump’s actions, so long as it makes sense. If you want to proclaim that the cons outweigh the pros with a Europe travel ban, fine, but saying that it won’t help reduce the cases because the virus is already here is pretty defeatist and stupid. The US is a big place with a large population. Just because some areas have it doesn’t mean that all do, and it spent make sense to import even more people who have been exposed.

Vic did a big piece on “flattening the curve” of the outbreak to not overwhelm the health system. They advocated for basically shutting yourself off from any social gatherings and self-quarantine. Now, of course, they’re complaining that we’re going too far because Trump did a thing. Typical.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-03-12 11:42:18
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“spent” = “doesn’t” and “Vic” = “Vox” because iPhone.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-03-12 11:44:30
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I understand autocorrect when swiping, but when I’m typing individual letters it shouldn’t randomly change words on me. *Shakes fist at the ghost of Steve Jobs*
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By Cerberus.Hideka 2020-03-12 14:02:45
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None of this is directly Trump's fault, it would have happened eventually regardless of what he would have done.

But how he has handled the situation caused a lot of issues. The most baffling one IMO is refusing tests from WHO because he wanted the US to make their own, it was an incredibly poor decision, it wasn't a situation where "America first" made sense.

Calling it a hoax or downplaying the possibility of a pandemic is also an incredibly dangerous rhetoric.

But again, he couldn't have done anything to avoid the situation, at best the spread curve would be smoother making it easier to contain the disease.

Trump / Biden / Sanders will still hold rallies so they are all hypocrites. They are all at risk due to their age and especially Sanders due to his heart issues.

to be clear, He litterally, has never called it a hoax. That claim, was in of itself in fact a hoax.

a hoax of a hoax of a hoax. Hoaxception.

he specifically said, that the democrats were trying to use this as their new political hoax, not that the virus itself was a hoax, and he was very specific about that. people just soundbyted it and spread it arround as if he was talking about the virus itself.
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By Viciouss 2020-03-12 14:12:12
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Brazilian official just tested positive, days after meeting with Trump and Pence in Florida.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-03-12 14:27:22
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to be clear, He litterally, has never called it a hoax. That claim, was in of itself in fact a hoax.

I have issues to wrap my mind around this.

Calling it a political hoax is essentially the same as calling it the virus a hoax. If he meant something else, the term hoax isn't appropriate here.

If he meant democrats are using the virus for political gains, then that's what he should have said.

No offense, but this is one of those things where people would completely disregard Occam’s Razor in order to get political gain rather than exercise a modicum of common sense. It makes zero sense for Trump to actually think the virus itself is a hoax, but the caricature in people’s heads makes them want to believe that it’s something he would say, so it becomes a reality. TDS in a nutshell.
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By Cerberus.Hideka 2020-03-12 14:31:45
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to be clear, He litterally, has never called it a hoax. That claim, was in of itself in fact a hoax.

I have issues to wrap my mind around this.

Calling it a political hoax is essentially the same as calling it the virus a hoax. If he meant something else, the term hoax isn't appropriate here.

If he meant democrats are using the virus for political gains, then that's what he should have said.

but that is actually, literally what he said.

Donald Trump said:

"The Democrats are politicizing the corona virus,One of my people came up to me and said, 'Mr. President they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia. That didn't work out too well. They tried the impeachment hoax. This is their new hoax.

He literally then went on to talk about the challenges we are facing with the corona virus.
By volkom 2020-03-12 14:34:53
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
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to be clear, He litterally, has never called it a hoax. That claim, was in of itself in fact a hoax.

I have issues to wrap my mind around this.

Calling it a political hoax is essentially the same as calling it the virus a hoax. If he meant something else, the term hoax isn't appropriate here.

If he meant democrats are using the virus for political gains, then that's what he should have said.

he's not the skilled linguist like obama. this has been an ongoing thing with him even before he took office. its probably one of his biggest flaws for a person in a seat of power
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By Cerberus.Hideka 2020-03-12 14:42:09
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No offense, but this is one of those things where people would completely disregard Occam’s Razor in order to get political gain rather than exercise a modicum of common sense. It makes zero sense for Trump to actually think the virus itself is a hoax, but the caricature in people’s heads makes them want to believe that it’s something he would say, so it becomes a reality. TDS in a nutshell.


This quote also literally came on the coattails of him having just banned travel to/from china.
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By Cerberus.Hideka 2020-03-12 14:54:59
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Brazilian official just tested positive, days after meeting with Trump and Pence in Florida.

if it made you even slightly happy knowing this.... i would suggest some severe internal reflection.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-03-12 15:00:52
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volkom said: »
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to be clear, He litterally, has never called it a hoax. That claim, was in of itself in fact a hoax.

I have issues to wrap my mind around this.

Calling it a political hoax is essentially the same as calling it the virus a hoax. If he meant something else, the term hoax isn't appropriate here.

If he meant democrats are using the virus for political gains, then that's what he should have said.

he's not the skilled linguist like obama. this has been an ongoing thing with him even before he took office. its probably one of his biggest flaws for a person in a seat of power

Yes and no. Obama relied heavily on teleprompters, while Trump is much more off-the-cuff. The latter is only an issue when people ignore context and/or invent context as a basis for political attacks... which is all the time with Trump.
 
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-03-12 15:01:44
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Rav pretending he's ever given any consideration to any rational criticism of Donald Trump and not just yelled "ORANGE MAN GOOD!!" is funny.

Oh hey, the troll is back. Welcome to the discussion, buddy.
 
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-03-12 15:05:43
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These threads have been ***for weeks. Plus, I was in India for a while.

Now that you’re here, they’ll only get better, I’m sure. Was your airplane only partly full?
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By Shiva.Zerowone 2020-03-12 15:06:48
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“spent” = “doesn’t” and “Vic” = “Vox” because iPhone.

Imagine that.

As a fellow iPhone user; it sure would be a shame if anyone here were to play high and mighty with your grammar and syntax errors caused by predictive auto correct.
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By Shiva.Zerowone 2020-03-12 15:08:48
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Grammatical and syntactical*
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-03-12 15:09:32
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Shiva.Zerowone said: »
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“spent” = “doesn’t” and “Vic” = “Vox” because iPhone.

Imagine that.

As a fellow iPhone user; it sure would be a shame if anyone here were to play high and mighty with your grammar and syntax errors caused by predictive auto correct.

I was toying with you, but yes. Turnabout is fair play.
 
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-03-12 15:11:46
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DirectX said: »
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These threads have been ***for weeks. Plus, I was in India for a while.

Now that you’re here, they’ll only get better, I’m sure. Was your airplane only partly full?
Always half empty on the way there and full on the way back. People were coughing and sneezing without covering in Delhi airport and it really pissed me off.

Dang. Well at least major cities in India aren’t overpopulated and crowded. I’m sure they’ll be fine.
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