Viciouss said: »
Your entire membership is "DEMOCRATS VERY BAD." Which hmm, thats one of the reasons nausi got deservedly sectionbanned.
How is this even slightly different from what you do? You are by far the most one-sided poster in here.
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Dem Dems aiming at 2020
How is this even slightly different from what you do? You are by far the most one-sided poster in here.
lol, how am I more one sided than kireek or Saevel, who attacks the left with every single one their posts? That was funny man, thanks. Swooped in and botched the landing completely.
kireek said: »
Viciouss said: »
"Civil discussion" immediately followed by "if the left stopped being HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE." yep, credibility zero.
So you're really offended I called the political party you support right now HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE? You guys call the right all the names under the sun and that's just fine xD
Lakshmi.Leosin said: »
kireek said: »
I think it's a good idea to not vilify each other to the level of calling people terrorists, being annoyed / trolling is one thing but lets not go that far down the hill. This is still a FFXI site and this section of the site exists to try to have some level of civil discussion.
People on the right are not alt right cause they annoy you, people on the left are not antifa cause they annoy you either. Heck, supporting one side or the other doesn't even actually mean you are on the left or the right at all, just that you support the party that makes the most sense to you at this point in time. If the left stopped being HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE (they never used to be, as shown above) then more would support them.
People on the right are not alt right cause they annoy you, people on the left are not antifa cause they annoy you either. Heck, supporting one side or the other doesn't even actually mean you are on the left or the right at all, just that you support the party that makes the most sense to you at this point in time. If the left stopped being HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE (they never used to be, as shown above) then more would support them.
Oh yes, lets just pretend the months of unnamed people spouting "Pedo Island democrats", "Illegal immigrant terrorists", or the random passive aggressive antisemitic quips are just a matter of being annoyed by contrasting partisan viewpoints.
Good job bitching about vilification and slinging retardation labels in almost the same breath.
GTFOH with that ***.
You don't know what my "talking points" are and you don't know what alt right is (neither do I these days tbh), maybe don't throw around names if you don't know what they mean.
Also you seem really mad, maybe go play some vidya.
I heard Pedo Island is nice this time of year...but too many tourists for my taste !
Also if you visit Pedo Island tell Bill I said "Hi"
fone we are gonna need precise directions!
Viciouss said: »
lol, how am I more one sided than kireek or Saevel, who attacks the left with every single one their posts? That was funny man, thanks. Swooped in and botched the landing completely.
Saevel can actually name issues where he disagrees with the Right. Kireek is new-ish, so he doesn’t have your extensive post history to compare to. You’ve played team politics on practically every single issue we’ve discussed for the past several years. It was like pulling teeth just to get you to admit that Common Core is garbage.
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Viciouss said: »
lol, how am I more one sided than kireek or Saevel, who attacks the left with every single one their posts? That was funny man, thanks. Swooped in and botched the landing completely.
Saevel can actually name issues where he disagrees with the Right. Kireek is new-ish, so he doesn’t have your extensive post history to compare to. You’ve played team politics on practically every single issue we’ve discussed for the past several years. It was like pulling teeth just to get you to admit that Common Core is garbage.
lol, thats cute and all, but I am no more one sided than Saevel, and we have his extensive post history to prove it. Also, all of Saevel's posts are cowardly and in bad faith, as he throws his labels at us daily while having everyone that can challenge his one sided behavior blocked. Why is pedo island even a thing on this site? Saevel and his lies. And lastly, kireek being "new" is questionable at best and we really don't need any more evidence from him to clearly understand he is an alt right troll.
But hey, I did enjoy your attempt to take a shot at me. I completely expected it when I made that post. Shame that you missed completely.
kireek said: »
Back on topic though, what do you think of the remaining Democratic candidates?
Curious which of the candidates the Democrat supporters on here are looking to support, if I had to bet it would probably be Bernie for Viciouss (you just know), Chanti would be Biden or Buttigieg and Ozment the same.
Honestly Tulsi seemed to the most electable, but she is out now.
Curious which of the candidates the Democrat supporters on here are looking to support, if I had to bet it would probably be Bernie for Viciouss (you just know), Chanti would be Biden or Buttigieg and Ozment the same.
Honestly Tulsi seemed to the most electable, but she is out now.
Also hilarious. Never have I voiced support for Bernie Sanders or any socialist platforms. Not once. You guys are on a roll.
See name calling.
Viciouss said: »
kireek said: »
Back on topic though, what do you think of the remaining Democratic candidates?
Curious which of the candidates the Democrat supporters on here are looking to support, if I had to bet it would probably be Bernie for Viciouss (you just know), Chanti would be Biden or Buttigieg and Ozment the same.
Honestly Tulsi seemed to the most electable, but she is out now.
Curious which of the candidates the Democrat supporters on here are looking to support, if I had to bet it would probably be Bernie for Viciouss (you just know), Chanti would be Biden or Buttigieg and Ozment the same.
Honestly Tulsi seemed to the most electable, but she is out now.
Also hilarious. Never have I voiced support for Bernie Sanders or any socialist platforms. Not once. You guys are on a roll.
You call Saevel a coward, but as I said, when he takes issue with the Right he vocalizes it. If you don’t back any socialist platforms, then why are we just now being made aware of this? After all of your posts, the only thing anyone can guess about your places on the political spectrum is “Democrats good, Republicans bad!”
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Saevel is a coward, straight up. Also, we have had plenty of discussions about all kinds of platforms, so no you are not just now hearing that I'm not a socialist. Just because you have a selective memory doesn't make that label accurate.
Viciouss said: »
Saevel is a coward, straight up. Also, we have had plenty of discussions about all kinds of platforms, so no you are not just now hearing that I'm not a socialist. Just because you have a selective memory doesn't make that label accurate.
My memory is fine. If we’ve had “plenty of discussions” then surely it wouldn’t be hard for you to find even one example where you vocalize your disapproval of the Left’s increasingly socialist agenda?
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kireek said: »
Back on topic though, what do you think of the remaining Democratic candidates?
Curious which of the candidates the Democrat supporters on here are looking to support, if I had to bet it would probably be Bernie for Viciouss (you just know), Chanti would be Biden or Buttigieg and Ozment the same.
Honestly Tulsi seemed to the most electable, but she is out now.
Curious which of the candidates the Democrat supporters on here are looking to support, if I had to bet it would probably be Bernie for Viciouss (you just know), Chanti would be Biden or Buttigieg and Ozment the same.
Honestly Tulsi seemed to the most electable, but she is out now.
Tulsi was the candidate I was actually interested in voting for, I even put a video of her doing an interview with the Rubin report.
And yeah guys with vic and leo call Dave Rubin a racist, bigoted, homophobic, sexist "alt right". Of course Dave being gay, married to a husband and being a life long liberal are all doesn't matter. No because he talks with and has friends on the "other side" he's "alt right" and nobody should pay attention to him.
So like I said, "alt right" is a term used to indicate anyone the true faithful doesn't like. It's their version of ex-communication. In other words, name calling.
Democrats Good
Republicans Bad
Orange Man REALLY BAD!!!
Who is Dave Rubin? Never been spoken about here. Just another lie from Saevel.
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Probably impossible, given my laziness and unwillingness to try to dig up years old posts. We haven't had those kinds of talks in years because of people like nausi and Saevel, and now kireek, shitting up the threads.
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kireek said: »
Viciouss said: »
Who is Dave Rubin? Never been spoken about here. Just another lie from Saevel.
Dave is an ex TYT presenter, that they got really salty about when he walked away. I'm ashamed to say I used to love TYT, good ol chunk.
Also, why are you running away from talking about Bernie?
lol, I'm not talking about anything with a troll that thinks its ok to call for civility while calling us all HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE in the same post. It doesn't seem like anyone else is interested in talking to you either. Maybe try Saevel?
Not even close. In fact pretty sure I already stated emphatically I have never supported Bernie. But hey, keep trying. That's what you do after all.
Viciouss said: »
Not even close. In fact pretty sure I already stated emphatically I have never supported Bernie. But hey, keep trying. That's what you do after all.
Specifically what policies are most concerning to you?
The biggest concern I have atm is spending is exploding and the deficit and debt just continue to climb while the economy remains unremarkable. We are stable, but not thriving. The Republicans have abandoned fiscal responsibility in the 21st century. They have cut taxes for the wealthy and increased military spending (for no reason) under two different incompetent Presidents. Trump and his supporters seem to think he is some kind of financial genius, yet all he has managed to do is continue the Obama recovery, but instead of everyone benefiting, a lot more people are losing.
Viciouss said: »
The biggest concern I have atm is spending is exploding and the deficit and debt just continue to climb while the economy remains unremarkable. We are stable, but not thriving. The Republicans have abandoned fiscal responsibility in the 21st century. They have cut taxes for the wealthy and increased military spending (for no reason) under two different incompetent Presidents. Trump and his supporters seem to think he is some kind of financial genius, yet all he has managed to do is continue the Obama recovery, but instead of everyone benefiting, a lot more people are losing.
Step out of your comfort zone of “Republicans bad!” for a minute and discuss the socialist ideas based on their intrinsic value alone. In a pipe dream of a government controlled by Democrats, what would concern you about socialist policy vs. something more moderate?
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Uh, too expensive. Universal healthcare is impossible in the US. It was remarkable that Obama had 90% of the populace covered by healthcare when he left office. Trump of course has insisted on lowering that number, but that's just another stain for him.
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