Random Politics & Religion #39: Guac Is Extra

In actual political news, it sounds like Pelosi is wanting to stretch out the inquiry process as long as possible in stating that there is no deadline. In spite of what pundits were saying, I never for a second believed that they would try and get everything finished this year. This is the Democrats' 2020 campaign. I wouldn't be surprised if they dragged this out past election day.

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~Vic's Protege
~CJ
~Mover of goal posts
~Something else entirely

It's just Saevel that hides from people that don't believe his longwinded factfree diatribes.

In honor of his favorite pastime, I will proceed to reply to Rava in a series of chops and edits.


Riiiight...because no deadline being set means that she wants to stretch out the process. Illogical.


Hmmm...what a great idea! Democrats can run on the campaign slogan "A Vote for Trump is a Vote for Communistic Treason."

One of the greatest perks of being blocked is that...they don't argue back!

I told you this would go on for months. Not till election day tho, Schiff is saying he could start releasing the testimony next week. Public hearings within the next two weeks, I think they will vote it by Christmas and send it to the Senate and John Roberts.

I was half exaggerating about the election day thing, but I really don't expect it to even hit a vote by Christmas. I want to be proven wrong on this, so I'm going to be upfront about my prediction.

Just watch as this thing is put on slow-drip for months. You're going to have evenly-spaced, partisan "witnesses" come out of the woodwork with the media cycle and polling acting as the metronome. Whatever big reveal(s) that Schiff and Pelosi think will have the most impact will come out at a very convenient time, either close to the vote or used as to counter to an announcement/speech/etc. by the President.

This investigation is not going on in a vacuum. It is going to be optimized for political posturing, and you'd better believe that the Dems are having backroom meetings, looking at their cards, and choosing the order and time in which to play them to maximize the political impact. They know Trump isn't getting removed over this, so really political impact is their only goal. Like I said, Campaign 2020.

The slow walking of the impeachment process orignates in obstruction from the white house.

If Trump would let his people testify this would be over a lot sooner.

Yep I said that at the very beginning, since the "Muh Russian Collusion" didn't work out quite so well they had to create another issue to drive the media and attempt to generate more hate. That's their 2020 election strategy, make people hate Trump. It didn't work in 2016 and it won't work in 2020 even if they dial it up to eleven.

The senate has already laid out it's expectations to accept any sort of investigation and the Dems fall woefully short of that. It's gonna get tossed the moment it hits the senate as a piece of propaganda. Result is that this "investigation" is just government funded opposition research.

I mean, I really don't care whether the presidents lawyer is present or not, but the Republicans need to have the capacity to participate. Under the current rules only the Democrats can do anything, as in only the Democrats can subpoena witness testimony, only the Democrats can introduce evidence and most importantly only the Democrats can question witness's. This guarantees that the Democrats have full control over every aspect of the process. That is a huge issue about fairness and transparency.

Riiiiiiiight. Dems aren't playing by the rules, and it's Trump's fault for not groveling and letting them get away with it.

This is one of those longwinded factfree diatribes that I was talking about. First of all, note the lack of sources. Its already been established that the Senate can't just "toss out" the impeachment articles, because Mitch McConnell won't be calling the shots. Who presides over the impeachment trial? Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. Think he is gonna "toss out" the case because of feels?

Secondly, its been repeatedly proven that the Republicans have been allowed to question every single witness. Remember how the alt-right was tossing out claims that the Dems were "coaching the witnesses" during the GOP questioning? Well, how can they be pushing that claim out if the GOP hasn't been able to question witnesses? Doesn't match up with Saevel's diatribe.

100% False. Dems are following the very rules to a T, set by the then Republican-led House in 2015. Republican's are just crybaby boohooing because those very rules they set are coming back to bite them in the ***.

I dont block people i dont agree with either.

Vuc is an irrational person to have a discussion with he claims he has evidence that he never produces such as “the transcript”, demands you produce evidence that doesn’t even exist such as q2 gdp numbers that haven’t been published yet. And even when you show him his own trusted sources like CNN, he will still pretend a railroad tie isn’t being used as a border fence and make believe it a fence to some farm in landlocked Tennessee.

He isn’t worth the effort to argue with, so he gets blocked. What’s unreasonable about that?

No one is obligated to comply with a witch hunt. Still waiting for someone to point to a crime.

Truly it is shocking that they really believe this BS.

Talk about choosing the blue pill.

Its fun to to watch them try to deny this.

This is just false.

The president is not permitted to have his counsel sit in these secret meetings and depositions. Nor are republicans permitted their own witnesses into these hearings without approval from Schiff (who would be a witness they would call).

These two points have nothing to do with each other. The Dems are absolutely following all the rules, and the Republicans are on the sidelines. It's not against the rules to not allow the Presidents counsel into the hearings, not is it against the rules to not allow the minority to subpoena witnesses. You guys are just going around in circles.

Smugglers are sawing through new sections of Trump’s border wall
WaPo on MSN

Impregnable... just like his impeachment defence will be.

That's impossible Chanti, walls work. You can't cut through adamantium. It's real.

Doesn’t matter, it is STILL keeping out tens of thousands.

You didn't have to do this Trump...

You didn't have to keep winning !

Trump you have vandalized my heart, raped my soul, tortured my conscience. !

I question the need for political cartoons when Looney Tunes is so much better !

If Oz is trolling which he may or may not be. He is the worst troll I've ever seen on a forum. Maybe he should practice trolling on another forum to learn the ropes.

I'd argue Vic is trolling but he seems so damn sure even when he is wrong 100% of the time. So if he is trolling he at least shows some expertise.

My advice to a would be troll. At least be funny. If you have nothing of value to add try to make us laugh. It might get people on your side.

He is worth blocking just for that stupid *** avatar pic alone !

Also if anyone is curious who's side I'm on.

I'm on "our side". Whatever that means.