Frog Ambuscade V1
Frog Ambuscade V1
hate to break this to you buddy but cors don't have native mp. Which is the bolded part I was saying isn't true. Now if you want to say that or specific jobs sure
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All buffers support get hammered. That was already given.
All native mp jobs "too"
All native mp jobs "too"
Odin.Senaki said: »
日本語 at the moment seem to be using: Sam OR Thf, Brd, Geo (Indi-buffs), Smn (Mew), Pld, Rdm.
*Then have DD quickly kill the mob with self SCs.
*Then have DD quickly kill the mob with self SCs.
Senaki, do you realize that "日本語" means Japanese language and not Japanese people/players?
Crazy Senaki!
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
All buffers support get hammered. That was already given.
All native mp jobs "too"
All native mp jobs "too"
Eiryl is right, u won't get hammered if u dnt use mp jobs /support jobs, or cor just soloed N on my pup didn't get hammered as pup/nin
SkyFrog said: »
Odin.Senaki said: »
*Then have DD quickly kill the mob with self SCs.
Senaki, do you realize that "日本語" means Japanese language and not Japanese people/players?
Crazy Senaki!
Better?
missdivine said: »
Eiryl is right, u won't get hammered if u dnt use mp jobs /support jobs, or cor just soloed N on my pup didn't get hammered as pup/nin
Edit: It finally stopped when I took off all non maneuver buffs and sent all trusts away
Brah. Trust count. Duh what trust did you call. If you called any "special" trust, any healer trust, pretty much half of the trusts they all activate hammer.
Asura.Eiryl said: »
It's possible pup is on the "get hammered" list.
Could also be the automaton itself counts PLD frame
The exact details, specifically which jobs do and don't cause it weren't fully fleshed out. (because, why the *** bother, just pet burn it...)
Could also be the automaton itself counts PLD frame
The exact details, specifically which jobs do and don't cause it weren't fully fleshed out. (because, why the *** bother, just pet burn it...)
went back with pups and cor /whm but no buffs. Hey no hammer. cor did rr still no hammer the second did a roll spammed hammer. The last round it hammered with geo trusts out wouldn't when they were sent away
It's not the job or subjob it's the buffs
It's not the job or subjob it's the buffs
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You can go in with prebuffs from SCH without getting hammered iirc. (could've been luck, it doesn't have to use hammer)
well RR didn't trigger. Maneuvers don't trigger utsesmi doesn't. So it's clearly not all. Given the way things are often separated I'd expect it to be geo, songs, and rolls
We already know for certain if you have support buffs you get hammered.
But is it number of total buffs? Could a cor roll himself only/bard sing himself only and still cause hammer? could it be 10+ any buff on total characters? Can you do only hastega and not get hammered? will any one buff on any one character cause it? (non-maneuver)
No one bothered to figure any of that out.
But is it number of total buffs? Could a cor roll himself only/bard sing himself only and still cause hammer? could it be 10+ any buff on total characters? Can you do only hastega and not get hammered? will any one buff on any one character cause it? (non-maneuver)
No one bothered to figure any of that out.
Apparently, you can't charm the ads spawned by the mob.
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"Frog Chant" grants him Regain.
It seems that if you dont bring mp jobs or subs it will spawn adds?
This is what BG has up now, though it doesn't have SMN included (and potentially others*)
missdivine said: »
It seems that if you dont bring mp jobs or subs it will spawn adds?
I tried it with both MP and Non-MP jobs. I think it spawns adds regardless.
Asura.Eiryl said: »
We already know for certain if you have support buffs you get hammered.
But is it number of total buffs? Could a cor roll himself only/bard sing himself only and still cause hammer? could it be 10+ any buff on total characters? Can you do only hastega and not get hammered? will any one buff on any one character cause it? (nonmanuever)
No one bothered to figure any of that out.
But is it number of total buffs? Could a cor roll himself only/bard sing himself only and still cause hammer? could it be 10+ any buff on total characters? Can you do only hastega and not get hammered? will any one buff on any one character cause it? (nonmanuever)
No one bothered to figure any of that out.
Speaking of did some experimenting. Sent out my mules to die one by one and yep just 1 roll on 1 was enough. Got my trust to throw a song on and disbanded and still hammer down to 2 songs on 2 characters. Went in with pup, pld and geo no buffs hammered. Pld died stopped hammering. So yeah there is some job thing going on but it's complicated. Hell maybe it's an amount of mp?
Regardless cor + pup is super sleepy easy mode so... and also sleepy so out
Guys, guys here is the winner winner chicken dinner setup for this ambu. Also don't judge my recording skills, because this is my first time recording so be nice! My setup is MNK BRD COR WHM RDM SMN and this has been my most efficient setup for this ambu. In fact in this recording this was the fastest kill so far, roughly 1 minute lol. Relevant part starts at 1:28 or so, Fight at 2:55. We get unlucky in silencing this sucker on this run but he melted.
PS: I gotta learn how to record on single window :/, Also eff yeah subtle blow.
PS: I gotta learn how to record on single window :/, Also eff yeah subtle blow.
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Trying to figure out what causes Quenching Hammer be like 
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Now do that with every job.
Really just WHM RDM and SCH (BLM?)
Really just WHM RDM and SCH (BLM?)
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
There's probably a good strategy that involves 1-2 Monk and 1-2 SMNs using Mew and Chi Blast rotations with a good multi-step in there. Should be able to reset his TP before he ever has a chance to use hammer (unless he has a regain effect). Maybe add RDM in the mix to cripple him so you can skip the tank part.
Even better than I thought
Mrgrim said: »
Guys, guys here is the winner winner chicken dinner setup for this ambu. Also don't judge my recording skills, because this is my first time recording so be nice! My setup is MNK BRD COR WHM RDM SMN and this has been my most efficient setup for this ambu. In fact in this recording this was the fastest kill so far, roughly 1 minute lol. Relevant part starts at 1:28 or so, Fight at 2:55. We get unlucky in silencing this sucker on this run but he melted.
PS: I gotta learn how to record on single window :/, Also eff yeah subtle blow.
PS: I gotta learn how to record on single window :/, Also eff yeah subtle blow.
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Did 5 pup 1 cor
All sub whm for reraise and DD pup use full valoredge.
Deploy run away 40 yalm and then overdrive wait for it to die.
All DD PUPs wore full DT, used hybrid attachments and ate all the hammers. 2min runs if no puppet dies.
All sub whm for reraise and DD pup use full valoredge.
Deploy run away 40 yalm and then overdrive wait for it to die.
All DD PUPs wore full DT, used hybrid attachments and ate all the hammers. 2min runs if no puppet dies.
Odin.Senaki said: »
SkyFrog said: »
Odin.Senaki said: »
*Then have DD quickly kill the mob with self SCs.
Senaki, do you realize that "日本語" means Japanese language and not Japanese people/players?
Crazy Senaki!
Better?
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Having great success in VD as:
RUN, DRK, RDM, BRD, SMN, SMN
Alternate mewing, RDM silences and enfeebles, DRK self SC with Torcleaver, BRD doing regular Marches/Minuets (and threnody for helping silence land).
No 2HR's, frog dead in less than 3 minutes.
RUN, DRK, RDM, BRD, SMN, SMN
Alternate mewing, RDM silences and enfeebles, DRK self SC with Torcleaver, BRD doing regular Marches/Minuets (and threnody for helping silence land).
No 2HR's, frog dead in less than 3 minutes.
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I just tried a few times on PUP with pld head/frame and got killed by little frog helpers EVERY time. Now i know from last year i changed setup so that never happened again(on PUP). I won't have time before tonight but is it possible that the pld frame triggers Provedance? I tried to think hard but can't remember what the solution to Provedance was....anyone remember or found out yet?
I've already explained how to avoid Proividence (adds). If you're going in solo, use joachim/ulmia/qultada or whomever, but you need a roll/favor/song icon to lock out Providence in favor of Hammer. The moment the buff icon wears, he's gain access to it. So a roll cor is mandatory.
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
The trigger to hammer is if there is (I believe) a roll, song, or avatar's favor on any of the party members. It causes him to use Quenching Hammer over Providence, a MAB boost/full frog add spawn. If you do not have any of these on any member, it will use Providence instead (just as annoying to deal with and its basically a wipe).
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Just need to make sure you bring a corsair and don't ever not have rolls up, or it will use Providence and it's most likely a wipe at that point.
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