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By Asura.Saevel 2019-10-02 16:17:09
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And it just got surreal. The witness was working with the Democrats to write the complaint.
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By Asura.Saevel 2019-10-02 16:19:20
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Posting on phone.

So yeah this just blew up in their faces. Total snow job by the Dems to generate a scandal, like the bad FISA warrants.
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By Viciouss 2019-10-02 16:21:01
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Asura.Saevel said: »
And it just got surreal. The witness was working with the Democrats to write the complaint.

Lol, 100% facts I don't like. This did not happen. Trump lying obviously gives his supporters cover to lie, so why not go all in?
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By Nausi 2019-10-02 18:30:26
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Federal law states Whistleblowers are not entitled to federal protection if they don’t take their complaint to the IG office first.

Schiff lied to the American people. 100% a fraud.

Release this treasonous ***bags name.
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By Viciouss 2019-10-02 18:38:31
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lol, desperation is real.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2019-10-02 19:57:02
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The real story:

Whistleblower (WB hereafter) talked to an IC staffer about the proper way to proceed. This is the proper, reasonable, and actually literally by the book way to do it.

Staffer (I will remind you that Schiff is a member, not a staffer) told the WB to go blow whistles. WB proceed to do so through the proper procedures.

TLDR: Keep promoting right wing conspiracy theories, we will try not to laugh and fail miserably.
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By Nausi 2019-10-02 20:03:46
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Lol where did you get that? From schiff?
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By Viciouss 2019-10-02 20:05:51
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lol, as no one even bothers wondering where nausi got his wild, wrong ideas from.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2019-10-02 20:32:08
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Nausi said: »
Lol where did you get that? From schiff?
I got it from several news sources.

But as they are all MSM you can put your fingers in your ears and chant "la la la I can't hear you."
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By Nausi 2019-10-02 21:34:00
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Where did they get it from?

Schiff?

Anonymous source familiar with the matter?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-10-02 22:35:06
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They don't care, Nausi. They dig until they hear what they want to hear and then they stop.

In the meantime, I'm just going to drop my daily reminder that the polls still haven't budged. Trump isn't going anywhere, womp womp.
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By Viciouss 2019-10-02 22:44:20
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lol, we don't care about conspiracy theories. There are no sources to back up nausi and Saevels lies. It's that simple.
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By Viciouss 2019-10-02 22:50:21
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7 days since the impeachment inquiry was launched, everyday has seen a trump meltdown, a trump Twitter tantrum, and a new conspiracy that was debunked instantly. It's gonna be an amazing winter over here.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-10-02 22:59:29
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What about Biden's lie that he never spoke with his son about his dealings in Ukraine, only for a photo to surface proving the exact opposite?
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By Viciouss 2019-10-02 23:11:01
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What about it? A golf picture has nothing to do with Trump's wrongdoing. It's just deflection, your hoping that the Bidens did something wrong.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-10-02 23:53:46
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Viciouss said: »
What about it? A golf picture has nothing to do with Trump's wrongdoing. It's just deflection, your hoping that the Bidens did something wrong.

It proves that he lied. Why would he lie if he has nothing to hide?
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By Viciouss 2019-10-03 01:09:19
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It proves it huh? What did they discuss?
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By Viciouss 2019-10-03 01:14:40
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Asura.Saevel said: »
And it just got surreal. The witness was working with the Democrats to write the complaint.

Reminder this remains a complete, unsourced lie.
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By Nausi 2019-10-03 07:10:05
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
The real story:

Whistleblower (WB hereafter) talked to an IC staffer about the proper way to proceed. This is the proper, reasonable, and actually literally by the book way to do it.

Staffer (I will remind you that Schiff is a member, not a staffer) told the WB to go blow whistles. WB proceed to do so through the proper procedures.

TLDR: Keep promoting right wing conspiracy theories, we will try not to laugh and fail miserably.

The rules are VERY clear on this. Whistleblowers must complete ALL proper channels BEFORE contacting congress. There is no way the WB could have started it, gone to Schiff for advice, and then finished the complaint.
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By Nausi 2019-10-03 07:10:41
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
They don't care, Nausi. They dig until they hear what they want to hear and then they stop.

In the meantime, I'm just going to drop my daily reminder that the polls still haven't budged. Trump isn't going anywhere, womp womp.
In fact he’s up in many lefty pols.

Backfire central.
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By Nausi 2019-10-03 07:12:47
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Viciouss said: »
What about it? A golf picture has nothing to do with Trump's wrongdoing. It's just deflection, your hoping that the Bidens did something wrong.

It proves that he lied. Why would he lie if he has nothing to hide?
These aren't even straws that Vuc is grasping at.

Bagbad bob level gaslighting here.

Reminder, theres no evidence Trump committed any crimes. Only rumor, hearsay, and innuendo.
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By Nausi 2019-10-03 07:23:35
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https://twitter.com/w7voa/status/1179497623457320962?s=21

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Asked if he spoke to his son about #Ukraine, @JoeBiden tells @NBCNews, "We communicated a couple times. But look, there is zero, zero, zero evidence of any assertion being made

Someone let Biden out to the press. He admits to lying and the asks for trust.

#bidengate

We are witnessing the popping of the media bubble.
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By Asura.Saevel 2019-10-03 07:41:50
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
The real story:

Whistleblower (WB hereafter) talked to an IC staffer about the proper way to proceed. This is the proper, reasonable, and actually literally by the book way to do it.

Staffer (I will remind you that Schiff is a member, not a staffer) told the WB to go blow whistles. WB proceed to do so through the proper procedures.

TLDR: Keep promoting right wing conspiracy theories, we will try not to laugh and fail miserably.

Nope, witness contacted the Dems and they wrote the complaint that they then signed.

Go back a few pages and I mention how the witness had someone "help" them with the complaint because it's written in legalese and not layman's english. Originally I thought it was some Democrat lawyer that he knew, now its made clear that it was someone working for Congressman Schiff.

It's the details that are important and all the Dem's have done is further erode any trust the public had in them. President Trump may be a troll and, but at least he's an open troll.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-10-03 08:30:02
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Viciouss said: »
It proves it huh? What did they discuss?

And the bait was taken. It's amazing how you suddenly gain an understanding of what "proof" is when it's a claim against a Democrat. At least I know that it's your objectivity that's broken, not your understanding of the word.

But anyway, Biden was forced to walk back his earlier lie already, so the photo is moot. After all, it's crazy to assume that high-ranking execs would talk business on a golf course with the VP there. Clearly Hunter Biden had
so much experience
and wasn't chosen for the job just because of who is father is.
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By Nausi 2019-10-03 08:52:55
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Yea lefties have painted themselves into the “you cant prove they spoke about business on a golf outing” corner. While at the same time live in the “Trump talking to another president about corruption in the 2016 election is an impeachable conflict of interest”

Jaw dropping.
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By Viciouss 2019-10-03 09:07:08
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Nausi said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
The real story:

Whistleblower (WB hereafter) talked to an IC staffer about the proper way to proceed. This is the proper, reasonable, and actually literally by the book way to do it.

Staffer (I will remind you that Schiff is a member, not a staffer) told the WB to go blow whistles. WB proceed to do so through the proper procedures.

TLDR: Keep promoting right wing conspiracy theories, we will try not to laugh and fail miserably.

The rules are VERY clear on this. Whistleblowers must complete ALL proper channels BEFORE contacting congress. There is no way the WB could have started it, gone to Schiff for advice, and then finished the complaint.

Still waiting on any source proving 1. the WB did something wrong 2. the Dems helped the WB write the complaint.
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By Viciouss 2019-10-03 09:11:45
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Asura.Saevel said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
The real story:

Whistleblower (WB hereafter) talked to an IC staffer about the proper way to proceed. This is the proper, reasonable, and actually literally by the book way to do it.

Staffer (I will remind you that Schiff is a member, not a staffer) told the WB to go blow whistles. WB proceed to do so through the proper procedures.

TLDR: Keep promoting right wing conspiracy theories, we will try not to laugh and fail miserably.

Nope, witness contacted the Dems and they wrote the complaint that they then signed.

Go back a few pages and I mention how the witness had someone "help" them with the complaint because it's written in legalese and not layman's english. Originally I thought it was some Democrat lawyer that he knew, now its made clear that it was someone working for Congressman Schiff.

It's the details that are important and all the Dem's have done is further erode any trust the public had in them. President Trump may be a troll and, but at least he's an open troll.

Reminder, Saevel just made this all up. There is no evidence this happened.
 
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-10-03 10:31:35
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
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What about Biden's lie that he never spoke with his son about his dealings in Ukraine, only for a photo to surface proving the exact opposite?

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Viciouss said: »
What about it? A golf picture has nothing to do with Trump's wrongdoing. It's just deflection, your hoping that the Bidens did something wrong.

It proves that he lied. Why would he lie if he has nothing to hide?

I'm trying really hard to figure it out here, but how does a picture show what they discussed that day?

For comparison, I could say Trump is a proven pedo because there are pictures of him with Jeffrey Epstein.

There isn't proof from the picture alone. My comment was satirical, but I can see how that wasn't obvious.

That being said, I'll play the devil's advocate and use something similar to Occam's Razor. The odds of business associates discussing business on a golf course (which is an incredibly common thing that would be blatantly obvious to anyone who's a business executive) is vastly more likely than someone engaging in pedophilia just because they happen to know a pedophile.
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By fonewear 2019-10-03 10:34:48
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
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What about Biden's lie that he never spoke with his son about his dealings in Ukraine, only for a photo to surface proving the exact opposite?

Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Viciouss said: »
What about it? A golf picture has nothing to do with Trump's wrongdoing. It's just deflection, your hoping that the Bidens did something wrong.

It proves that he lied. Why would he lie if he has nothing to hide?

I'm trying really hard to figure it out here, but how does a picture show what they discussed that day?

For comparison, I could say Trump is a proven pedo because there are pictures of him with Jeffrey Epstein.

There isn't proof from the picture alone. My comment was satirical, but I can see how that wasn't obvious.

That being said, I'll play the devil's advocate and use something similar to Occam's Razor. The odds of business associates discussing business on a golf course (which is an incredibly common thing that would be blatantly obvious to anyone who's a business executive) is vastly more likely than someone engaging in pedophilia just because they happen to know a pedophile.

You want the proof...you want the proof...you can't handle the proof !
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