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Um.... Bro. Did you forgot that Moon(item) were 10m when omen came out? Completely sellable. And highly sought. People STILL join Ou specifically to win and sell Corals.

omen was a nice mix of direct drop and new recipes for quality craftables- speaking in the accessories department here... screw bodies. This first installment of divergence hasn't caught my imagination nearly as much as omen release did. Even with some of the best feet from it being for some of my primary jobs.

If there's only 4 zones as I believe was discovered, I'd wager its a safe assumption that the last zone will be head and body, so I'm all of a sudden not expecting much out of the other two starter cities. And giving another zone so fast, that I'm sure will share entry timer, makes me wonder if after the release of all zones we'll get some bonus drops added to all zones the way Ou was added a few months after initial release. Hoping for more new mats for new recipes. Dunno. But I'm really hoping for some little bonus down the line so it's more than just farming tags for relic upgrade.

No I didn't forget it, but there's a big difference between a number of crafting materials (which were crafted into gear people could buy) and having 75% of the upgrade items of the event's main gear sellable as direct drops. The comparison you drew, I get it, but it's not consistent with how they've released really any content in the past, which is why I said it was "strange".

While I believe it surely existed before as well (just like with anything in this game) I don't think omen mercing was very common before they introduced Ou and the possibility to enter with more than 6 people.
Especially during the first weeks (which is the fair comparison we should have with Divergence in its current situation at the moment of this post) Omen was still tough, only pro groups were progressing and the majority of other people were wiping on the dreaded minibosses.

I know with my group we wiped/timed out on miniboss as well a few times, and while I'm not a particularly high-end player trust me the rest of the group was.



My point is that comparing the status of Omen now that it's 1 year old and received several adjustments to Dynamis who is 3 weeks old isn't very fair, whichever way you want to take the comparison, it's not fair.

I like how people say "SMN only" but we found a way to kill vol.1 VD w/o "SMN only" on the 1st day.

Mewing is still smn, where is your method?

I triboxed VD within the first 30 minutes the update was up using no smns. Talked about the method in multiple threads

Day 1 we were doing: PLD RDM/SMN GEO/SMN THF/SAM THF/SAM COR/SAM.

Fight took all of 5 mins from enter to exit.

you keep mentioning this as if it's something special, but it was done the first time frog came around and brought back up long before the update even went live.. if by found you mean read forum posts outlining it like a year ago..?

using /smn for mewing != without smn

the other strat is using a few good pups with overdrive to blast it down

Whenever people say "we did it without SMNs", they really mean "we didn't cheese it down in 4 seconds". I'm guessing the /SMN mew method is not the same in people's minds as "Using SMN".

PUP can do it with a couple CORs, even a DRG or THF for added sacrificial lamb WSs/Super Jump & Angon.

2 PUP
2 COR
DRG
THF

Strat doesn't include a SMN at all. May not even need to use OD from the PUPs if the DRG/THF are comfortable with dying a few times to deal some damage.

That's overkill. 2 pup + cor with OD can kill in 4-5 minutes from entering. Only bothered doing VD without OD once but iirc was around 13-15 minutes. ie way too long lol. Even had to use repair once. It was horrible

Well 2 pup + cor is only 3 people. Dat Gallantry bonus with 6 people; Angon helps a bit, Dia2 Light shot, and a THF to sataws the DRG and super jump if you're lucky to avoid a hammer (probably not). Either way, try to go with max people because of the points tied to it. The other 3 are literally leechers, but if they can help speed it up, why not.

This is what people mean by "using SMN", it's synonymous with abusing pet mechanics for a cheese win. You have AC SMN burn on one hand, or the "we throw SMN and PUP pets at it and watched cat videos for a few minutes" method.

Oh yeah more points is just saying what you need to win is way less. And definitely can get it done with in a reasonable time without OD with more people.

Running in isn't that hard once you get used to it. Wait till it uses hammer if it starts casting before you get there go back. Somewhat weak to light/dark so could get some nukes/sc/mb in there too

Did they unfix mnk yet?

Five SV songs and a COR? In my Apex party? It's more likely than you think

what is this He-man job you talking about?, is this from the test server?

Weaksauce, that's all they could do even with mules buffing them? Three step a level 129 Apex Crab while buffed. *golf clap*

To give perspective, a mediocre geared Chango WAR was able to three step overkill level 135 Apex Bats in outer raz while I CPed BST. Immediately Prior to this he was three stepping them as a SAM but ended up capping CP so changed to his freshly geared non-CP'd WAR to continue. Just two weeks ago I was down in Outer Raz three stepping the same bats on DNC. Hell earlier in that day I was on BST/NIN three stepping those bats.

wow i just noticed he has master monk and he's still getting guard skill ups...

What does that have to do with anything? That's how people that multi do everything. I have 6 master blms that got master with zero magical skills. I have 6 master wars with zero combat skills. Master blus with zero spells. Master GEOs with zero spells and skills.

all 6 of my monks were mastered without capped h2h and guard as well.

Didn’t know that was the cool new thing to brag about.

tbf guard is terrible in general and terrible to skill. 5/7 wouldn't guard again

there is a thing called skill tomes you know!
its like getting AG'd almace with no sword skill. why would anyone do that?!

That's like 500k gils worth of sparks!!!

Not sure the sword is apt comparison since ya kind of need it to DD and guard is a mediocre defensive trait on a dd that's been out of favor and not really tanking since abyssea. A batter comparison to guard would be a master rdm without dark skill...

Wonder if they'll actually fix it. lol.

Nothing else of interest

but its 500k you wouldnt have to spend again! :)

Oh look, you already started the nobody gives a ***clap

I hope they reconsider their stance of Cornelia being temporary; she is absolutely incredible, and I don't want her to go when the 6 months are up.