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I'm not following you here. How is sky comparable?

The 784 points is the normal rate, not tripled? How many points is it to cap 5/5 gear?

"impossible" without a static (ls)

The entirety of the games existence has hinged on finding and retaining competent slaves to get stuff for you "team members". It's always been the only real challenge, sifting through trash for the ones with just enough braincells to be helpful and not enough braincells to understand they should be in a different group.

R25 gear 5/5 would be 125,750 RP

Except in Sky, only select few people gets the reward, in Odyssey everyone who participate gets RP

If you clear once on L20 and then farm RP solo, how many Odyssey points does it take to cap a set?

Assuming you are just doing 5%, the most segment efficient path is to do V20 (supercharged amp) > V20 (any) > V20 (any), then repeat in an infinite cycle, which gets you 5649 RP for NM 1 for 10500 Segments.

Using amps on NM 2 and 3 as well is slightly less efficient in terms of total RP:Segments (0.538 RP per segment for just the supercharged amp, 0.525 RP per segment for amping all 3), but takes significantly less total time spent, giving about 25.5% more RP per 3 NM run. This can either be done all on the same NM by doing 5%, exiting and re-entering, and repeating, or the other 2 NMs can be other ones that you still need RP for, like Bumba.

The first pattern takes about 233.7k segments for 5 R25 pieces worth of RP, while the second route takes about 239.4k segments for 5 R25 pieces worth of RP. Getting 5 pieces to R20 takes slightly more tham half of those values.

If you're unable to solo 5% on your NM of choice, you can do them at a lower V level for an efficiency hit while keeping the other 2 NMs at V20. I've done some solo Ongo RPing on DRK at V11 (leading to a supercharge amp at V17 potency due to averaging V11 and 2 V20s), which is about 60% as segment efficient.

~88 runs @ 4500 (amps each time) = 396,000 segments.
edit: this is just doing w/e nm and not supercharging. just single 5%'s

No. The game USED TO be that way. For years before Odyssey it was solo/pug friendly.

Ok. I seriously need some clarification on this point. When was the newest gear in the game available via solo efforts within its 1st year of release?

I see somebody moving goalposts by ignoring PUGs. All throughout abyssea was heavily pickup friendly. Salvage was PUG friendly. WOTG was a ***era. All of adoulin was done with PUGs.
Hell, you could lowman most of sky back in the way too, but we as a playerbase were not that skilled.

JPs on Bahamut PUGs all Odyssey including V20 Mboze and Bumba and they clear/farm like that regularly soooo........

A good number of Abyssea NMs were not pickup friendly until much later when we had much better abyssea gear and multiple atmas, tons of temps, and better cruor buffs. Delve, Vagary, and higher tiers of Escha were similarly not pickup friendly at first.

Content eventually becoming pickup friendly doesn't mean much.

NA/JP do this on Asura as well

Sounds like a whole bunch of you were just ***at your jobs.
I cleared all of delve and vagrary in pickups. I did have a ls during abyssea, but at the same time I was killing everything with 3-4 friends during off time because everything in abyssea could be cleared by 2-3 people. No comment on escha since I wasn't around during that time period.
Given your bad takes on everything else so far, i'm thinking stuff being too hard was a you problem.

You cleared Delve with PUGs when it first came out?

The exact same argument can be thrown right back at you regarding Odyssey, I hope you realize.

I'm not talking about myself, I'm talking about the player base in general. Basically all early Delve and Vagary clear "pickups" were done by a linkshell or static of friends that were filling up extra spots to supplement them. Delve didn't even get cleared by anyone for like a month and a half, let alone pure pickup groups.

Tell me more about those lnkshells looking for a few people to fill out that start 1/18. Linkshells just grabbing a few extra people is what happens after the majority of a server is done with content and the linkshell has to look outside the group as a result..

And tell me more about these mythical pickup groups that could clear Delve when even the best linkshells in the game hadn't managed it yet.

I can't speak or any where else but on ragnarok there was not PUGs doing delve early on, my LS used to sell spots for it. I am sure as time went on like many things it was much easier to PUG, but when delve first came out and we didn't really have access to ilvl gear yet PUGs were not doing it.

At best only things Pugs might have been doing at best is getting plasm point blank period.

Pickup for Delve early on was like, alliance field NM kills and literally farming the trash mobs in fractures for Plasm while someone with Twilight Helm/Mail held the NMs in a corner somewhere.

This ^

Ah, the good ol' days of

Can't get Oatixur without fighting Tojil
No group taking down Tojil w/o Oatixur MNKs

Then SE was all like "We're sick of MNKs hogging the glory for these past 2 weeks, so we're gonna make a sword and put everyone on it but MNK!"

Indeed, forced to play Monk over Samurai, what a travesty!!

"Is that really your gear? No wonder you died" will still be the greatest thing someone ever said to you as a wtf moment

that sounds like something i might have said during delve era