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March 2019 was the last time they had Emp items, not that long ago.
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Bismarck.Firedemon said: » March 2019 was the last time they had Emp items, not that long ago. Offline
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How possible is it that new gear could make Bumba armour only bis for magic and hybrid we?
Maybe they'll do that then just make Bumba armour better with r25 again. Offline
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Depends on how big the jump to +3 is but as it stands i think emp +3 will stand alongside max aug'd ody gear overall
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Well there's only likely to be one piece for each dd with was. If it was 12% and lots of modifier stat maybe it would be better?
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well you're already seeing it with skulker's vest +2, it's competing with nyame at +2 and if the wsd increase is reasonable itll overtake it easy for dagger ws' due to the stupid high dex it has over nyame
EDIT: +2 wins over nyame already actually, outside of making use of sc bonus possibly, could change at r30 Offline
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Nyame is still All Jobs, however, while each Empy set for each job will still only have a single WSD piece most likely. Nyame already beats AF and even Relic usually, so most jobs will continue to rock 4/5 Nyame B with one Empy+2-3 piece in varying slots.
Plus having DT/MEVA during WS is a benefit that's hard to overstate. Offline
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Right, though same time i wouldnt be surprised if empy adds more wsd in to DD jobs, empy so far has always been this kind of step up in terms of jse gear when compared to previous jse. But even in such a scenerio nyame will always have a place for the non-dd jobs/pieces with no wsd.
Same for DT/meva, the meva tiers seem like theyll be similar to what ody gear is providing, DT will vary, could be 1 piece, could be multiples, too early to say til whole sets are out Offline
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Nariont said: » Right, though same time i wouldnt be surprised if empy adds more wsd in to DD jobs, empy so far has always been this kind of step up in terms of jse gear when compared to previous jse. But even in such a scenerio nyame will always have a place for the non-dd jobs/pieces with no wsd. Same for DT/meva, the meva tiers seem like theyll be similar to what ody gear is providing, DT will vary, could be 1 piece, could be multiples, too early to say til whole sets are out Agreed, it's hard to tell, but at least for the pieces shown they haven't put DT on any of the WSD pieces. In terms of MEVA it seems to vary tremendously depending on job, with mages getting significantly more than heavy DDs. So even the +3 upgrades probably won't reach Nyame levels for non-mages. just thinking about heathen +3 makes me want to play DRK again jesus Caladbolg AM with that set is going to be bunkers
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Aerix said: » Nyame is still All Jobs, however, while each Empy set for each job will still only have a single WSD piece most likely. Nyame already beats AF and even Relic usually, so most jobs will continue to rock 4/5 Nyame B with one Empy+2-3 piece in varying slots. Plus having DT/MEVA during WS is a benefit that's hard to overstate. Aerix said: » Nyame is still All Jobs, however, while each Empy set for each job will still only have a single WSD piece most likely. Nyame already beats AF and even Relic usually, so most jobs will continue to rock 4/5 Nyame B with one Empy+2-3 piece in varying slots. Plus having DT/MEVA during WS is a benefit that's hard to overstate. Beats it at R25, which most of the forum users here expressed they don't and won't have because they don't want to play Odyssey like a job as we do :P Nariont said: » well you're already seeing it with skulker's vest +2, it's competing with nyame at +2 and if the wsd increase is reasonable itll overtake it easy for dagger ws' due to the stupid high dex it has over nyame EDIT: +2 wins over nyame already actually, outside of making use of sc bonus possibly, could change at r30 THF always has bonkers job specific gear to make up for standing up to magic like they are made of tissues. Offline
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Eh, mdt was always the easier thing to gear for, and once meva became a factor they did get put on turms, wouldnt call THF weak to magic more than any other DD, THFs problem has always been eva is either amazing or its a joke and that's all the defense the job has natively.
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Thunderjet said: » just thinking about heathen +3 makes me want to play DRK again jesus Caladbolg AM with that set is going to be bunkers Only if they increase % activation BY A LOT, otherwise it's only 5% more white damage on avg from bonus (even less assuming you are not always at 100% HP), but you lose tons of white damage boost from things like Sakpata head (PDL+DA damage). If you think about it, one Sakpata piece with like 7%PDL is stronger than whole 5/5 bonus right now. Leviathan.Draugo
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Starbucks said: » Aerix said: » Nyame is still All Jobs, however, while each Empy set for each job will still only have a single WSD piece most likely. Nyame already beats AF and even Relic usually, so most jobs will continue to rock 4/5 Nyame B with one Empy+2-3 piece in varying slots. Plus having DT/MEVA during WS is a benefit that's hard to overstate. Offline
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Leviathan.Draugo said: » Starbucks said: » Aerix said: » Nyame is still All Jobs, however, while each Empy set for each job will still only have a single WSD piece most likely. Nyame already beats AF and even Relic usually, so most jobs will continue to rock 4/5 Nyame B with one Empy+2-3 piece in varying slots. Plus having DT/MEVA during WS is a benefit that's hard to overstate. Omen, Dyna D, aeonics etc were all doable ad hoc with pick ups or a small number of people multiboxing if i make 10 FFXI characters can i still Send all Log in points to main for the Empy mats kekw? double post ofc i need to know
Starbucks said: » Leviathan.Draugo said: » Starbucks said: » Aerix said: » Nyame is still All Jobs, however, while each Empy set for each job will still only have a single WSD piece most likely. Nyame already beats AF and even Relic usually, so most jobs will continue to rock 4/5 Nyame B with one Empy+2-3 piece in varying slots. Plus having DT/MEVA during WS is a benefit that's hard to overstate. Omen, Dyna D, aeonics etc were all doable ad hoc with pick ups or a small number of people multiboxing Also, even if it was impossible without a static, I'd hardly say being unable to fully power up gear from ONE piece of endgame at your leisure killed the game, considering the many events in the past that were like that when they were released, such as Sky. Leviathan.Draugo said: » Starbucks said: » Aerix said: » Nyame is still All Jobs, however, while each Empy set for each job will still only have a single WSD piece most likely. Nyame already beats AF and even Relic usually, so most jobs will continue to rock 4/5 Nyame B with one Empy+2-3 piece in varying slots. Plus having DT/MEVA during WS is a benefit that's hard to overstate. Just wait, R30 Nyame will have WSD+15 but V25 Bumba will instantly use Denounce on activation, pop fetter and then spawn all six of the T3's at 75%. Offline
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Asura.Saevel said: » Leviathan.Draugo said: » Starbucks said: » Aerix said: » Nyame is still All Jobs, however, while each Empy set for each job will still only have a single WSD piece most likely. Nyame already beats AF and even Relic usually, so most jobs will continue to rock 4/5 Nyame B with one Empy+2-3 piece in varying slots. Plus having DT/MEVA during WS is a benefit that's hard to overstate. Just wait, R30 Nyame will have WSD+15 but V25 Bumba will instantly use Denounce on activation, pop fetter and then spawn all six of the T3's at 75%. R30 Nyame will have same WSD and only change from R25 will be +10 all stats. V25 Bumba will spawn fetter 1min after start and pop 2 adds. #hyperbolenothx Offline
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Either way, at v25 people might finally have to do Bumba the intended way instead of being able to SB zerg it. And the bonus stats will be significant enough that everyone will want r30.
That's when everyone will start complaining. Can't wait for the update that puts Ranking on AF/Relic/Emp to make it comparable to Odyssey, but in doing so will make it so it cannot be stored on mogslips anymore.
Odin.Stayfresh said: » Unless they make the new event impossible to beat without odyssey gear, I still won’t care when the gear is R30. There is nothing I do in this game right now that I can’t beat without odyssey gear. I am not playing odyssey R20 or whatever level it is now. Maybe it's because I have a great network of friends on a dead server but I'd never sell myself short like that. I agree Oddy is the worst content they gave us in ages due to the grind but it isn't hard by any means outside of having the people to do it. Games been too easy for ages. Asura.Meliorah said: » Can't wait for the update that puts Ranking on AF/Relic/Emp to make it comparable to Odyssey, but in doing so will make it so it cannot be stored on mogslips anymore. WARDROBES! Mwahahahaha!!! Starbucks said: » Leviathan.Draugo said: » Starbucks said: » Aerix said: » Nyame is still All Jobs, however, while each Empy set for each job will still only have a single WSD piece most likely. Nyame already beats AF and even Relic usually, so most jobs will continue to rock 4/5 Nyame B with one Empy+2-3 piece in varying slots. Plus having DT/MEVA during WS is a benefit that's hard to overstate. Omen, Dyna D, aeonics etc were all doable ad hoc with pick ups or a small number of people multiboxing My ody group is 3 real people and a 2nd account from a friend that is too busy to play. We don't have a daily scheduled time for segments or gaol, but we've cleared all the bosses with whatever jobs we had geared at the time. There are literally videos from Logical who has cleared almost all of them on NIN solo. It doesn't require 5 other people. It just requires you to be motivated occasionally. Odin.Stayfresh said: » Bismarck.Nickeny said: » Odin.Stayfresh said: » Unless they make the new event impossible to beat without odyssey gear, I still won’t care when the gear is R30. There is nothing I do in this game right now that I can’t beat without odyssey gear. I am not playing odyssey R20 or whatever level it is now. Maybe it's because I have a great network of friends on a dead server but I'd never sell myself short like that. I agree Oddy is the worst content they gave us in ages due to the grind but it isn't hard by any means outside of having the people to do it. Games been too easy for ages. Yeah, I play at weird times for NA people on Odin I think. I tried a couple LSes, but the leaders were not the best… I’ve cleared almost all V0 with my three characters, but I can’t seem to beat Ongo no matter what setup I try. Gear up nin or get a friend to help and you can solo it on v0 without too much trouble. https://youtu.be/rWj_VSMlyjc Offline
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