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By Shichishito 2022-03-10 18:29:44
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is it just me or is there nothing interesting after 960 deeds? also is it just me or should we not have to go multiple rounds thru the full deeds list to unlock all merit weaponskills?
also why does their counting system not start at 1 if there is no way to earn single digit deeds?

should we expect a new trust in monberaux stead on the second go or is that too much to ask?

so many questions.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2022-03-10 18:38:54
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960+ is mostly money

Counting by 10 allows them to add 1's later for microtasks, should they choose to add them.

R/E items (monbearux, endorsment ring, glamours) likely replaced by coppers. Silvers if they're generous.

That said, 90% of the rewards in general are pretty janky. The 10% make it worthwhile to keep doing it though I guess. Like if you've been playing for 2 years, a maat's mix is a pretty insulting reward. but so is getting bonus CP from ONE kill on a CP ring.
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By Shiva.Humpo 2022-03-10 18:58:29
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And here I always thought they went by 10 instead of 1's for the psychological aspect.. Bigger numbers = better..? Kind of like how $9.99 is more appealing than $10.00
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By Sylph.Tigarion 2022-03-10 19:59:39
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Changed my mind.
Resetting Deeds tacks on another "Year 3" page to the NPC (1450~1920 Deeds).
Previously claimed rewards (1440 Deeds and under) are kept, and you now need 1920 Deeds to reset again.

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By Asura.Bippin 2022-03-10 20:07:53
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What would be the reason to not reset?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2022-03-10 20:24:48
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Figured they would just loop year 3 as there's nothing that's one time only, but at the same time hoped they wouldn't cause year 2 has free relic pieces and some of those are still worth like 30m

So no additional merit ws
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By Sylph.Tigarion 2022-03-10 20:32:48
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Slight correction, any progress in the 970-1440 deeds category gets reset and has updated values; it does not tack on a new page.
I was originally going to wait until someone else logged in to use all the Mars/Venus orbs that I never claimed, but instead of waiting, here you go.


The NPC warning applies only to the 970~1440 rewards.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2022-03-10 21:22:30
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At least they didn't put Cornelia behind Year 3 rewards.
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By Asura.Geriond 2022-03-10 21:42:28
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They should have put her somewhere in there.
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By Asura.Sechs 2022-03-11 03:54:10
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What I wonder about the reset is... can you really get all the rewards again?
ALL of them?
That includes the item to unlock more WSs?
More Pulse weapon kupon?
More AF+2 and Relic+2 tickets?

*EVERYTHING*?

Because unlocking 2 more 5/5 merit WS is interesting, granted that it would take us like what, 2 years to get there, so good luck with that but still, interesting nonetheless.
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By SimonSes 2022-03-11 05:30:03
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Asura.Sechs said: »
What I wonder about the reset is... can you really get all the rewards again?
ALL of them?
That includes the item to unlock more WSs?
More Pulse weapon kupon?
More AF+2 and Relic+2 tickets?

*EVERYTHING*?

Because unlocking 2 more 5/5 merit WS is interesting, granted that it would take us like what, 2 years to get there, so good luck with that but still, interesting nonetheless.

Arent they saying that only 3rd year rewards are in the loop? There is only Pulse weapon in 3rd year, from all things you mentioned.
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By Bahamut.Unagihito 2022-03-11 08:31:42
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Asura.Sechs said: »
That includes the item to unlock more WSs?

The two items "Primer/Treatise on Martial Techniques" are both permanent KI, I'm not sure you could get it again.
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By Asura.Sechs 2022-03-11 09:54:24
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You guys just made me a sad galka
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By waffle 2022-03-11 10:02:48
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Sylph.Tigarion said: »
Slight correction, any progress in the 970-1440 deeds category gets reset and has updated values; it does not tack on a new page.
I was originally going to wait until someone else logged in to use all the Mars/Venus orbs that I never claimed, but instead of waiting, here you go.


The NPC warning applies only to the 970~1440 rewards.
So unclaimed rewards from before 970 are still available to you even after a reset?
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By Asura.Bippin 2022-03-11 10:23:59
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Bahamut.Unagihito said: »
The two items "Primer/Treatise on Martial Techniques" are both permanent KI, I'm not sure you could get it again.
Should have never added the KI and just changed it so each job could merit 3 WSs or something. The system at this point just limits playing more jobs.
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By Sylph.Tigarion 2022-03-11 10:28:39
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waffle said: »
So unclaimed rewards from before 970 are still available to you even after a reset?
Yes, the reset only affects your Year 3 rewards; everything else is untouched.
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By waffle 2022-03-11 18:14:17
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Sylph.Tigarion said: »
Yes, the reset only affects your Year 3 rewards; everything else is untouched.
Thank you.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2022-03-17 22:51:46
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Expect an Emaint lol. I guess there are hundreds of bots doing eyedrops.

330g + water crystal synthesized into ~500g x2 x4 x6 or x8 Infinite money glitch.

(it was brought up before, but now a JP reported it so it'll actually get fixed)
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2022-03-17 23:02:26
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just like the old holy water days
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By Shichishito 2022-03-17 23:42:23
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alchemy escutcheon holders:
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2022-03-18 00:01:39
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SimonSes said: »
Asura.Sechs said: »
What I wonder about the reset is... can you really get all the rewards again?
ALL of them?
That includes the item to unlock more WSs?
More Pulse weapon kupon?
More AF+2 and Relic+2 tickets?

*EVERYTHING*?

Because unlocking 2 more 5/5 merit WS is interesting, granted that it would take us like what, 2 years to get there, so good luck with that but still, interesting nonetheless.

Arent they saying that only 3rd year rewards are in the loop? There is only Pulse weapon in 3rd year, from all things you mentioned.

The free ADL and PW pop items are kinda cool, and only in 3rd year. At this point, I'd honestly probably rather have those again than more AF/Relic 109/+1/+2 gear (already have full Relic+3 for all my jobs, and the AF+2~3 pieces I care about).

I am a bit sad they didn't add new stuff though. Might have been nice to see Empy 109/119 armor to prepare for reforges. Or maybe continue to progress to handing out AF+3/Relic+3 pieces (or even just items to replace the costly craft materials for the AF+3 stage).
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By Shiva.Thorny 2022-03-18 06:38:11
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Expect an Emaint lol. I guess there are hundreds of bots doing eyedrops.

330g + water crystal synthesized into ~500g x2 x4 x6 or x8 Infinite money glitch.

(it was brought up before, but now a JP reported it so it'll actually get fixed)

curious how they manage to get enough crystals for hundreds of characters to do that, it's not like the AH is bottomless and there are very finite numbers of elemental spawns
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By SimonSes 2022-03-18 07:22:38
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
Asura.Eiryl said: »
Expect an Emaint lol. I guess there are hundreds of bots doing eyedrops.

330g + water crystal synthesized into ~500g x2 x4 x6 or x8 Infinite money glitch.

(it was brought up before, but now a JP reported it so it'll actually get fixed)

curious how they manage to get enough crystals for hundreds of characters to do that, it's not like the AH is bottomless and there are very finite numbers of elemental spawns

How we even know it was done on such a great scale? Any link to some source?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2022-03-18 07:27:41
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
Asura.Eiryl said: »
Expect an Emaint lol. I guess there are hundreds of bots doing eyedrops.

330g + water crystal synthesized into ~500g x2 x4 x6 or x8 Infinite money glitch.

(it was brought up before, but now a JP reported it so it'll actually get fixed)

curious how they manage to get enough crystals for hundreds of characters to do that, it's not like the AH is bottomless and there are very finite numbers of elemental spawns

What if I told you botting is a source of infinite crystals lol

I must drop literally a million crystals a day with treasury. If it weren't such a hassle to sell them and collect the money from the god damn DBox..........
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By Shiva.Thorny 2022-03-18 07:34:55
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
What if I told you botting is a source of infinite crystals lol

I must drop literally a million crystals a day with treasury.

but it's not, if you average 3.5 crystals a kill and only kill mobs that drop water crystals, and kill a mob every 15 seconds, you still need to farm 1 hour for every 3 hours of crafting(more like 1:1 if they use fastcraft ***)

that's a significant change to the output, and they obviously don't have 'hundreds' of farmers getting crystals for their 'hundreds' of mules (i didn't see it, so no idea if there are actually hundreds)

there's a difference between 'easy to get' and 'infinite', it still adds a proportional roadblock to the output
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By SimonSes 2022-03-18 07:34:58
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For 100 bots to do craft like 4 times per min, you would need 400 crystals per minute. Not sure what bot army would be able to keep up farming that fast. Haven't they nerfed number of crystals that drops in ally recently to counter bot army farming Sparks?

Asura.Eiryl said: »
literally a million

sure, sure
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By Shiva.Thorny 2022-03-18 07:36:35
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SimonSes said: »
Haven't they nerfed number of crystals that drops in ally recently to counter bot army farming Sparks?
no, that was just eiryl not understanding how alliances work

but it definitely seems like the numbers are off, given how many crystals you'd need
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By Asura.Eiryl 2022-03-18 07:38:36
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They're making it work, 2 bots per craft bot farming crystals 24/7
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By Shiva.Thorny 2022-03-18 07:39:35
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
2 bots per craft bot farming crystals 24/7
where? have you found them? has anyone noticed them?

if it's actually 2 farm bots per craft bot, and there are actually hundreds of craft bots, nobody noticed hundreds of chars farming water crystals?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2022-03-18 07:40:17
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Ask the jp that posted about it and/or find them doing it. (he said 30 on asura, but assume it's not just happening on asura for hundreds)

His account got suspended from the OF now.... ***. lul.

Said they go to upper jeuno and the alc guild. So if you stand there and see 2-3 dozen anons, start askin questions.

(also yeah, for 20 years I had no idea crystal drops were based solely on killing party, I thought if you had 6 "signet" in an 18 alliance it would still drop the max)
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