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By Nausi 2017-05-11 10:08:15
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Clearly we're all terrible people for not crucifying Trump for something nobody can prove he did. What we need is sensationalist media evidence leading to mob mentality judgments in the court of public opinion. Blindly following the herd is the only true way to demonstrate that you don't blindly follow the president.

You don't need evidence in their Socialist Utopia. Requirement for evidence is just male primacy enforcing the patriarchy and oppressing their diverse-orientated gender-inclusive race-sensitive persons. Feelings are what matter and Trump is making them feel scared and insecure and thus is guilty of high treason and should immediately be removed from power and replaced with someone that makes them feel secure.

Damn it's getting harder and harder to be satirical without crossing into the obscene. This ***is actually how those who identify with the left work mentally.
Truth is merely a social construct..
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By eliroo 2017-05-11 10:18:06
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Just get a towel and clean up once you guys are done.
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-05-11 10:18:14
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Nausi said: »
Truth is merely a social construct..

Would be a joke, if the left didn't actually push this belief into their congregation. They actually do believe that "Truth" is just what the majority of politically correct people believe it is.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-05-11 10:23:21
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Just get a towel and clean up once you guys are done.
We are still cleaning the mess from the past 8 years. We don't have any time to make any mess ourselves.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-05-11 10:23:53
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If what I'm reading on the BBC is correct, apparently Rosenstein's threat to quit may also have been a manufactured lie. Color me shocked.
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By eliroo 2017-05-11 10:24:15
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Soo... "centrist" is someone who votes left, believes in the left cause's, regularly blames "those evil capitalists" for everything that is wrong with the world.

No wonder Trump Derangement Syndrome is so strong among the left, they actually think their moderates because Europeans are so much further left then they are, and we all know how great and Utopian Europe is right....


Glad you are on top of my post history.

If you were you would realize how Anti-clinton I was. It is funny because I had the same arguments with people far left about her emails and they would say the same ***you guys would. Actually you guys would be part of that same argument.

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Clearly we're all terrible people for not crucifying Trump for something nobody can prove he did. What we need is sensationalist media evidence leading to mob mentality judgments in the court of public opinion. Blindly following the herd is the only true way to demonstrate that you don't blindly follow the president.

Same argument against her emails.

I wish you would see how hypocritical you are being.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-05-11 10:24:51
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
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Just get a towel and clean up once you guys are done.

I must admit Trump is very talented to make people swallow anything, they won't even need to clean up.

When rebuttals fail, passive aggressive insults are the way to go.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-05-11 10:26:22
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
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Just get a towel and clean up once you guys are done.

I must admit Trump is very talented to make people swallow anything, they won't even need to clean up.

When rebuttals fail, passive aggressive insults are the way to go.
In his case, direct insults are a norm.
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By Viciouss 2017-05-11 10:27:22
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Yet the same polls show huge support for his policies.

Examples?
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By Nausi 2017-05-11 10:29:34
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Nausi said: »
Truth is merely a social construct..

Would be a joke, if the left didn't actually push this belief into their congregation. They actually do believe that "Truth" is just what the majority of politically correct people believe it is.

That mindset has it's strongest legs in the lands of higher education.
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By Nausi 2017-05-11 10:30:30
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
If what I'm reading on the BBC is correct, apparently Rosenstein's threat to quit may also have been a manufactured lie. Color me shocked.
DRUMPF IS DONE!!!
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-05-11 10:31:33
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Clearly we're all terrible people for not crucifying Trump for something nobody can prove he did. What we need is sensationalist media evidence leading to mob mentality judgments in the court of public opinion. Blindly following the herd is the only true way to demonstrate that you don't blindly follow the president.

Same argument against her emails.

I wish you would see how hypocritical you are being.

I just went over this. We had very clear evidence of wrongdoing from the Clinton campaign, even well before the election. There is no comparison to Trump's situation. With Clinton it was, "exactly how many laws did she break?" With Trump it is, "did he even do anything wrong?"
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By Nausi 2017-05-11 10:31:55
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Same argument against her emails.

Except Clinton actually committed crimes! There's plenty of evidence for this.
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By Siren.Mosin 2017-05-11 10:36:27
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leave poor stupid hapless hillary alone. the american people already rejected her, she is as broken hopeless as us.
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By Siren.Mosin 2017-05-11 10:36:45
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-05-11 10:36:59
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Viciouss said: »
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Yet the same polls show huge support for his policies.

Examples?

A recent Harvard poll. I'm having trouble finding a source that doesn't have a clear agenda (on either side) with how they present the findings. The gist is that Trump himself is unpopular with millennials, but when it comes to several broad policy measures that do not have Trump's name attached, the majority of millennials are on the same page as him.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-05-11 10:37:46
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***like this

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Clearly we're all terrible people for not crucifying Trump for something nobody can prove he did. What we need is sensationalist media evidence leading to mob mentality judgments in the court of public opinion. Blindly following the herd is the only true way to demonstrate that you don't blindly follow the president.

Same argument against her emails.

I wish you would see how hypocritical you are being.
You want to know the main difference between the Clinton emails and the Trump/Russia investigation?

Publicly released evidence.

See, the Clinton email investigation had testimonies and publicly released evidence, along with statements by the investigators that concluded that Clinton did break the law, but she wouldn't be prosecuted due to lack of intent (which never stopped any prosecutors before). Now that Comey's out of the picture, it's highly possible that she may be prosecuted due to his inference.

Meaning that he prevented any charges being made for political purposes. You do know there's an active investigation going on on Comey's handling of this whole issue, right? Like how he handed Clinton's aides immunity deals before they were even questioned, or how the FBI destroyed evidence that pertains to the investigation, or how there was no charges brought up to the technicians who deleted subpoena evidence, even when the technicians knew that what they were deleting was subpoena'd by Congress.

Now, for Trump, there hasn't been any publicly released evidence because there isn't any. We know there isn't any because we have a very highly leaky FBI, who, under the direction of our former FBI director, would allow leaks to happen without punishment (I mean, it's been happening for several months now, and yet, no evidence shows him even attempting to close such leaks). The only evidence provided any collusion is a highly false dossier. One that has no bearing to be included in any normal investigation, but our now ex-director not only relied on it, but was willing to pay more for more falsehoods. And probably knew that it was false.

I think you just hate whoever is in charge at the moment. You have an establishment complex or something of that nature.
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By eliroo 2017-05-11 10:41:25
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You want to know the main difference between the Clinton emails and the Trump/Russia investigation?


The difference is pretty obvious: Confirmation Bias.

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I think you just hate whoever is in charge at the moment. You have an establishment complex or something of that nature.

Anything else Dr. Phil?


Helpful link : https://www.reddit.com/r/TrumpInvestigation/wiki/doc

Pretty much just like the Wikileaks documentation against Hillary and her Emails. I see no difference. You only choose to see no difference because being ignorant backs up your party.

Congratulations, you are the same as your enemies.
 
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By Viciouss 2017-05-11 10:43:52
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Now, for Trump, there hasn't been any publicly released evidence because there isn't any. We know there isn't any because we have a very highly leaky FBI, who, under the direction of our former FBI director, would allow leaks to happen without punishment (I mean, it's been happening for several months now, and yet, no evidence shows him even attempting to close such leaks). The only evidence provided any collusion is a highly false dossier. One that has no bearing to be included in any normal investigation, but our now ex-director not only relied on it, but was willing to pay more for more falsehoods. And probably knew that it was false.

Lol, what a funny read. Should have just stopped at there isnt any publicly released evidence and thats it. Everything after is you making ***up, as usual. You don't know anything about the FBI, its not even close to being "highly leaky" and you just made up an allegation about Comey allowing leaks. And then of course, you start rambling about the dossier again. Thats to be expected whenever you start talking about the Russian scandal.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-05-11 10:44:22
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The difference is pretty obvious: Confirmation Bias.

Yes. We confirmed that Hillary did something wrong. Thus we have more bias against her than against someone who has no confirmed wrongdoing.
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By Nausi 2017-05-11 10:45:03
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You want to know the main difference between the Clinton emails and the Trump/Russia investigation?


The difference is pretty obvious: Confirmation Bias.

Really?



(Denial is the most predictable of all human responses)
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By Nausi 2017-05-11 10:45:41
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(facts I don't like) Russian scandal.
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By Viciouss 2017-05-11 10:45:58
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If the FBI was "highly leaky" wouldn't we have known about the Trump probe shortly after it started in July? You would think right? This is the FBI after all, they leak everything. /eyeroll.
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By eliroo 2017-05-11 10:46:05
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Since I'm having this stupid argument again:


Why do you need evidence to suspect someone of wrong doing? If I had evidence, I wouldn't be suspecting them. Are you just going to wait until its too late or push for a investigation. If there is no evidence and he didn't do anything wrong - then why not do a full investigation. What do we lose? We gain the peace of mind that our president isn't colluding with a foreign superpower.
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By Nausi 2017-05-11 10:46:20
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Rav did you move to CT yet?
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By Viciouss 2017-05-11 10:47:06
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I don't have BLIND faith in him..

Joke of the day? Joke of the day.
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By Nausi 2017-05-11 10:48:03
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Since I'm having this stupid argument again:


Why do you need evidence to suspect someone of wrong doing? If I had evidence, I wouldn't be suspecting them. Are you just going to wait until its too late or push for a investigation. If there is no evidence and he didn't do anything wrong - then why not do a full investigation. What do we lose? We gain the peace of mind that our president isn't colluding with a foreign superpower.
So when do we investigate that obama illegally spied on trump? Cause i have my suspicions.

Should we investigate his ideological ties to Soros before or after, cause i suspect there's some wrong doing there too.
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By Nausi 2017-05-11 10:48:14
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I mean we need to be sure dont we?
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