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Random Politics & Religion #19
Bismarck.Josiahfk said: » Bahamut.Ravael said: » Yeah, that comic's missing the point. Nobody's against a better environment, we're against getting taxed into oblivion. And you're defending your position anyway? I get your point, but nobody posts things like that in here that don't at least partially represent their position. Humorous comics aren't a "get out of rebuttal free card". Thoughts on a Strange Day—and a Very Strange Presidential Tweet Quote: The reference was to my short article from last night about the 9th Circuit's denial of a stay of the district court's freezing of Trump's noxious executive order on visas and refugees. No, I had not said or implied that the decision was disgraceful (with or without an exclamation point). And while I had indeed noted the omission in the ruling that Trump was trumpeting and criticized some of the virtue signaling in the opinion, I had noted some other things as well. For example, I had written that "The Ninth Circuit is correct to leave the TRO in place, in my view." I had argued that the key question in the case was whether "the repeated and overt invocations of the most invidious motivations on the part of the President himself, his campaign, his adviser, and his Twitter feed will render an otherwise valid exercise of this power invalid." And I had concluded the post by describing "the incompetent malevolence with which this order was promulgated." You read that correctly: The President of the United States was tweeting approvingly an article describing his motivations as "invidious" and describing his actions using the phrase "incompetent malevolence." ... This is not how the White House is supposed to work. Whole aparatuses are supposed to be there to protect the President from sending out unvetted executive orders, tweeting attacks on federal judges that hurt the government's chances of prevailing in court, and yes, even from tweeting articles he hasn't read and that don't say what he thinks they say. Think about it this way: If the Trump White House is so incompetent that it is citing my work by accident, how on earth can we trust it to handle North Korea? Sad! Trump should realize by now that he's the only person we're allowed to cherry-pick statements from.
Bahamut.Ravael said: » Trump should realize by now that he's the only person we're allowed to cherry-pick statements from. Review ***before it is posted online or written in an EO. We (us here and those who post on the Internet in general) happily make fun of people who do similar stuff on a regular basis. As President he is held to a higher standard, not lower than something I would call out on any other poster here. Trump should realize by now that he is POTUS, he should stop acting like an amateur, and get his white house in order. Eh, I meant the more general we, as in everybody. He's been cherry-picked from the beginning, and maliciously at that. In this particular tweet all he did was quote something that promoted his point, which was that the courts weren't even challenging his right to make the decision per the statue, they just didn't like what he did. The 9th Circuit is a joke, though, so there really isn't any surprise there.
But how is this tweet in particular that bad? So he borrowed a quote from an article. Who the frick cares?
Bismarck.Josiahfk said: » Bahamut.Ravael said: » But how is this tweet in particular that bad? So he borrowed a quote from an article. Who the frick cares? I'm talking about THIS TWEET IN PARTICULAR. I just said that. The fact that Trump didn't read the article isn't surprising at all, with his thin skin there is no way he would have tweeted anything from that blog had he actually read it. Why would he bring attention to a blog that supported the ruling against him? All he accomplished was taking a quote out of context and making himself look even worse. I'm sure Lawfare appreciates the additional hits.
There doesn't appear to be a limit to his stupidity. Bismarck.Josiahfk said: » Bahamut.Ravael said: » Bismarck.Josiahfk said: » Bahamut.Ravael said: » But how is this tweet in particular that bad? So he borrowed a quote from an article. Who the frick cares? I'm talking about THIS TWEET IN PARTICULAR. I just said that. Generally quote replies are directed towards the topic in question, not changing the subject when you don't have a rebuttal, but alright. Josiah is just jealous.
canada sucks! Viciouss said: » The fact that Trump didn't read the article isn't surprising at all, with his thin skin there is no way he would have tweeted anything from that blog had he actually read it. Why would he bring attention to a blog that supported the ruling against him? All he accomplished was taking a quote out of context and making himself look even worse. I'm sure Lawfare appreciates the additional hits. There doesn't appear to be a limit to his stupidity. I do understand all the talk of Trump having a thin-skin. It just seems awfully odd to think it's only Trump. People are freaking out about every little thing he does, blowing up the top news over insignificant crap, and taking to the streets in aggressive and even violent protests simply because they don't like the guy... and Trump's supposedly the worst example of thin skin? Nah, I don't buy it. Bahamut.Ravael said: » But how is this tweet in particular that bad? So he borrowed a quote from an article. Who the frick cares? It demonstrates a lack of critical thinking and basic reading comprehension on his part. I've seen incredibly easy to trigger Trump supporters. So this thing that only one side does it should just be dropped.
Bahamut.Ravael said: » Viciouss said: » The fact that Trump didn't read the article isn't surprising at all, with his thin skin there is no way he would have tweeted anything from that blog had he actually read it. Why would he bring attention to a blog that supported the ruling against him? All he accomplished was taking a quote out of context and making himself look even worse. I'm sure Lawfare appreciates the additional hits. There doesn't appear to be a limit to his stupidity. I do understand all the talk of Trump having a thin-skin. It just seems awfully odd to think it's only Trump. People are freaking out about every little thing he does, blowing up the top news over insignificant crap, and taking to the streets in aggressive and even violent protests simply because they don't like the guy... and Trump's supposedly the worst example of thin skin? Nah, I don't buy it. Don't you expect more from the office of the President? Random people freaking out on both sides is nothing new. If anyone is going to rise above, shouldn't it be the President? If he shows no inclination to do so, why would anyone else? Are people not just following the example he sets? Bahamut.Kara said: » Bahamut.Ravael said: » But how is this tweet in particular that bad? So he borrowed a quote from an article. Who the frick cares? It demonstrates a lack of critical thinking and basic reading comprehension on his part. I'm almost entirely certain he didn't read the article, so reading comprehension is probably not the issue. The fact remains that the judges didn't even challenge the statute, which speaks volumes about what the basis of their decision in the first place. Which, btw, is a much more interesting topic than Trump repeating something that he probably just saw someone else saying. Josiahkf said: » does that extremely unhealthy behavior not mean anything to you? Sure it does. It's annoying. But it's also refreshing in that Trump simply does not take crap from people that politicians have bowed down to because they're so afraid of being attacked. I'd prefer a happier medium there to be sure. Viciouss said: » Don't you expect more from the office of the President? Random people freaking out on both sides is nothing new. If anyone is going to rise above, shouldn't it be the President? If he shows no inclination to do so, why would anyone else? Are people not just following the example he sets? After the presidents I've lived through? No. Pettiness is the new norm, Trump just is more obvious about it. Bahamut.Ravael said: » Yeah, that comic's missing the point. Nobody's against a better environment, we're against getting taxed into oblivion. Valefor.Sehachan said: » I've seen incredibly easy to trigger Trump supporters. So this thing that only one side does it should just be dropped. I guess the biggest difference then is that the GOP doesn't have George Soros to fund protests designed to make people look more upset than they actually are? Bahamut.Ravael said: » Valefor.Sehachan said: » I've seen incredibly easy to trigger Trump supporters. So this thing that only one side does it should just be dropped. I guess the biggest difference then is that the GOP doesn't have George Soros to fund protests designed to make people look more upset than they actually are? I would say that those GOPers that went home to conservative town halls would disagree with you. Shiva.Nikolce said: » Josiah is just jealous. canada sucks! Bahamut.Ravael said: » The fact remains that the judges didn't even challenge the statute, which speaks volumes about what the basis of their decision in the first place. |
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