Random Politics & Religion #11

other countries do put money into R&D... It's ludicrous that you think they don't...

The problem is compounded by sleazebags like Shkreli who profiteer for the sake of "research", when really it's just a lie to fatten the wallets of executives.

Out of the top ten pharma companies they spend more on advertising and sales than they do r&d so yeah

The top company spends 17 billion in sales and advertising as opposed to 8billion in r&d to tap into a $320billion dollar a year market(2013).

other countries do put money into R&D... It's ludicrous that you think they don't...

Getting rid of people like him would be a good start.

The problem is compounded by sleazebags like Shkreli who profiteer for the sake of "research", when really it's just a lie to fatten the wallets of executives.

I'll shave all my beard off except a small toothbrush mustache... you go fire up the ovens!

How many out of the top ten pharma companies?

Also, you do know that could be easily verified, right?

Which company is that? Can you say, or do you want to be a little more opaque?

Who said other countries don't?

When the US alone holds about 40% share of the global pharmaceutical market, Japan is the 2nd largest country, holding just over 10% of the market share, it's easy to say that the US is subsidizing the R&D expenditures for other nations, especially those who have zero R&D budgets in their entire country's lifetime.

Reading comprehension, do you need it? I never said they didn't.

You don't need to shave your beard, it would make the fire spread faster.

Given the chance, anyone would do the exact same thing.

9 out of the top ten... Go look...

And Johnson and Johnson was the one that spent that much in advertising...

Johnson & Johnson disclosed their exact advertising expense in their financial statements (the very source that article got it's numbers) and they not only misreported it, but misreported it in a way that could be considered libel.

Wasn't speaking to you so yeah... Swing and a miss again buddy...

You asked me how many then said it could be easily verified... I told you the number and then told you to go look then you *** about me asking you to prove my own point? Sigh... Another day with KN....

Well... As far as its being reported on multiple different outlets like the link I posted... The number your coming up with is way too low... You're most likely excluding something...

Costs associated with advertising are expensed in the year incurred and are included in selling, marketing and
administrative expenses. Advertising expenses worldwide, which comprised television, radio, print media and Internet
advertising, were $2.6 billion, $2.5 billion and $2.3 billion in 2014, 2013 and 2012, respectively.

Tax deductions that Bill and Hillary Clinton took for computer maintenance expenses match up closely with payments they made to Bryan Pagliano, Hillary Clinton’s personal email technician, a Daily Caller investigation reveals.

The payments to Pagliano were revealed in notes released on Friday from his Dec. 22 interview with the bureau. Investigators cited documents showing that the Clintons made a $5,000 transfer to Pagliano in 2009, and another in June 2011 for $8,350.83.

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FBI notes from Dec. 22, 2015, interview with Bryan Pagliano

The Clintons’ publicly available tax filings show that the former first couple deducted similar amounts from Bill Clinton’s speechmaking income for computer maintenance expenses in those same years.

The Clintons also depreciated computer equipment that was put in service in June 2011 — the same month Pagliano traveled to the Clintons’ home in Chappaqua, N.Y. to work on the server — as well as at other times when major changes were made to the off-the-books email system.

The similarities in the deductions and server payments are not definitive proof that the Clintons wrote off the money they paid to Pagliano. But none of the available evidence rules it out.

Notably, the tax deductions are larger than the payments to Pagliano. If the inverse was true — if the tax deductions were smaller than the payments to Pagliano — that would suggest that the deductions were for something other than the payments to the technician. The Clintons and Pagliano could help settle the matter, but they did not respond to requests for comment.

The IRS does not allow taxpayers to deduct personal expenses, and Clinton treated the private email server as a personal device. She declined to tell the State Department she used it, and she kept it at her home in Chappaqua, N.Y.

Pagliano, who was granted immunity to cooperate with the FBI, began creating the Clinton email system in early 2009 after being contacted by Justin Cooper, a longtime aide to Bill Clinton who helped the former president coordinate his official government activities, his business endeavors, and his Clinton Foundation work.

The IT director for Hillary Clinton’s 2008 campaign, Pagliano used equipment left over from that failed effort to build the system, which was activated in March 2009. He took a job at the State Department months later, in May, but did not tell the State Department about payments he received from the Clintons.

The new server hosted three email domains: wjcoffice.com, presidentclinton.com and clintonemail.com, the one Clinton and her aide Huma Abedin used for email.

The Clintons’ tax filings show that they took no deductions for computer maintenance in the years before Pagliano started building the email network.

But that changed in 2009, when Pagliano completed the creation of the off-the-books email system and was paid for it. There is a $6,388 deduction for “computer/phone” on the Schedule C form for Bill Clinton’s speechmaking business. Clinton was paid $7,359,592 for his speeches that year.



In 2010 there was only a $328 deduction for computer services. The FBI notes do not detail any major work on the Clinton server that year.

The Clintons 2011 tax returns show an uptick in maintenance expenditures.

They took a $8,743 deduction for “computer maintenance” that year, an amount that is close to what they are known to have paid Pagliano in June 2011. Clinton raked in $13,864,072 for his speeches.



Also that year, for the first time, the Clintons began depreciating computer equipment. There is a $6,501 entry for “computers” on the tax form. The equipment is rated 100 percent for business use.

The FBI’s notes show that Pagliano travelled to the Clinton’s house in New York in June 2011 “to perform maintenance and install new upgrades” to the server. The notes then list all of the equipment Pagliano added to the system.



The Clintons deducted computer maintenance expenses over the next three tax years, their IRS filings show.

In 2012 there was a $1,239 expense for “computer services.” They also took a $5,220 for computers. In 2013 and 2014 there were deductions for computer work of $3,726 and $3,284, respectively.

In June 2013, the Clintons began depreciating other computer equipment. There are entries of $5,909 and $1,986 for computers put into service on June 30, 2013. That is also a key month in the Clinton computer system timeline. According to the FBI notes, Cooper told the FBI that he, Pagliano, and Hillary Clinton’s former chief of staff Cheryl Mills began working on transitioning the administration of the server to Platte River Networks, a Denver-based firm that is also embroiled in the email scandal.



As with Pagliano and the Clinton campaign, Cooper did not respond to a request for comment.

If, as the evidence suggests, the Clintons wrote off their payments to Pagliano, they could argue that the deductions would be justified if they were used for Bill Clinton’s speechmaking business. But that claim would be undermined by the fact that the server was kept at the Clintons’ private residence.

Pagliano also indicated to the FBI during one of his two interviews that he understood the server to be for personal communications. He told investigators that he declined a suggestion from a State Department colleague to put extra protections on the server because he believed it was being used for personal communications.

Additionally, Pagliano had no associations with Bill Clinton’s business endeavors.

The Clintons deducting payments to Pagliano would not be a surprise, the president of one watchdog group says.
“The Clintons are no strangers to questionable tax deductions, going back to their Arkansas days,” Ken Boehm, the president of the National Legal and Policy Center, told TheDC.

“It goes without saying that it is improper to take a tax deduction for a server or anything else which was used or maintained by the government. The Clintons and their hired help have tied themselves in knots refusing to answer questions about the notorious server. That is not the conduct of anyone with nothing to hide.

The similarities in the deductions and server payments are not definitive proof that the Clintons wrote off the money they paid to Pagliano. But none of the available evidence rules it out.

Lol. "We're not making ***up but we're not ruling out that we are."

The Clintons and Pagliano could help settle the matter, but they did not respond to requests for comment.

Lol. "We're not making ***up but we're not ruling out that we are."

I like how most of the people here who said they will vote for Trump don't sit there and try weasel him out of all the ***he has done while everytime some shady ***that clintonhas done pops up all of her sheeple supporters rush to make excuses for her.


Really shows how the left operates in terms of mentality.

Both candidates deserve to be behind bars for the crimes they committed. Trump has done insider- trading and shady dealings. Hillary has committed Perjury and jeopardized the security of the US all while using her politcal power to completely ignore the rules.

Its ok though, the left can brainwash sheep into believing whatever they want apparently