Random Politics & Religion #07

In Non america news. Brexit vote today.

To quote Buckley:

"A conservative is someone who stands athwart history, yelling Stop, at a time when no one is inclined to do so, or to have much patience with those who so urge it."

He was part libertarian, part social conservative, and I think I'll take his word on what constitutes a conservative. Your variety and view of conservatism may differ, but don't pretend the grander view of it in society isn't exactly that; resistance to change of social norms.

As Mil pointed out, fiscal conservatism is something entirely different, and not a thing anyone is practicing these days, so it hardly even matters

Buckley and his editors used his magazine to define the boundaries of conservatism—and to exclude people or ideas or groups they considered unworthy of the conservative title.[45] Therefore, he denounced Ayn Rand, the John Birch Society, George Wallace, racists, white supremacists (starting in the 1960s), and anti-Semites.

James Jackson Kilpatrick (1920–2010) was a well-known newspaper editor in Richmond, Virginia, who was a leader in supporting segregation and the control of the South by whites only. MacLean states that, "The National Review made Kilpatrick its voice on the civil rights movement and the Constitution, as Buckley and Kilpatrick united North and South in a shared vision for the nation that included upholding white supremacy."[52] In the August 24, 1957 issue, Buckley's editorial "Why the South Must Prevail" spoke out explicitly in favor of temporary segregation in the South until "long term equality could be achieved"

In an op-ed piece in The New York Times on March 18, 1986, Buckley addressed the AIDS epidemic. Calling it "a fact" that AIDS is "the special curse of the homosexual," Buckley argued that people infected with the disease could only marry if they agreed to sterilization and that universal testing—led by insurance companies, not the government—should be mandatory. Most controversially of all, he wrote: "Everyone detected with AIDS should be tattooed in the upper forearm, to protect common-needle users, and on the buttocks, to prevent the victimization of other homosexuals."[98] The piece led to much criticism; some gay activists advocated boycotting Patricia Buckley's fund-raising efforts for AIDS. William Buckley later back-tracked from the piece, but in 2004 he told The New York Times Magazine, "If the protocol had been accepted, many who caught the infection unguardedly would be alive. Probably over a million." [99]

are you voting to stay or go?

are you voting to stay or go?

his own personal brand of Conservatism

(CNN)A mass shooting at a cinema in Viernheim, Germany, has left 25 people wounded, German public TV reported Thursday.
Viernheim is in western Germany, near Frankfurt.
Developing story - more to come

And you are telling us yours. Thanks for sharing.

You regressive liberals

^This is why I never take what you say seriously.
You argue always against some generic group of people that you think everyone who disagrees with you fits in. You reason with stereotypes in mind and don't really listen to individuals. It shows especially when you go on a rant that has nothing to do with what the quoted person says. You add a lot of conjecture and assumptions about the person you talk to, I guess because this gives you a higround or something?

Sorry but I do not represent your "every progressive person ever" you always seem to be so angry about.

If you go there will be trouble

If you stay there will be double

Short answer: stop arguing with emotions.

In Non america news. Brexit vote today.

Voted to remain! Either way, the Tory implosion that is going to happen regardless will be delicious.

This can't be legit.

If it is, it's absolutely the best thing that's ever happened in politics since 1952 at least.

Best redirection ever. I want to see the quote, "I'm a neurosurgeon, why would I ever say this backward, crazy-*** ***? What? You have video evidence of me doing this? Well then it's clear that aliens have replaced me with a doppleganger, because that's idiotic."

The suspect entered the cinema, apparently heavily armed, around 3 p.m. local time, authorities said. The attacker has been killed, a state interior minister told a local newspaper, according to Reuters.

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What happened to the Republican party is that the Super Religious Southern Democrats defected in mass during the civil rights movement. They were Democrats, they were very fond of big government programs that spent lots of money on the people, especially the poor. They were the descendants of the upper class plantation owners who were forced to give up their livelihood after the civil war and they were extremely racist and bigoted....

False flag Germany wants your guns !

Why? They're Germans. We want their guns. That's some quality ***.

I'm using the original brand

And this proves again that you don't listen to people but just label opposition and throw them into a mix.

I've been very patient with you many times Saevel, but no productive conversation will ever exist if you keep on riding this black&white mentality.

I haven't use any emotion whatsoever in these last posts.

Why is FDR shilling cigarettes?