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By caseyanthony 2015-03-20 16:06:27
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Siren.Mosin said: »
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Yet my "fake account" is more decked than yours and Mosins combinded.

lol @ 'combinded'

sry bro, I got married, had 3 kids, & somehow managed to get promoted twice just by being good looking, so really, taking that into account, I was pretty badass with my spharai. I'll try harder on the next MMO.

I don't care about it at all man, I'm just making the point that this is my account, not just a forum account to troll the people in meltdown over the game possibly coming to an end shortley.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-03-20 16:06:53
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Siren.Mosin said: »
promoted twice just by being good looking
POIDH
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By Siren.Mosin 2015-03-20 16:09:30
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caseyanthony said: »
I don't care about it at all man, I'm just making the point that this is my account, not just a forum account to troll the people in meltdown over the game possibly coming to an end shortley.

I was admittedly not paying a ton of attention, you've just made a couple of posts that caught my eye as having more anger embedded in them than most on this topic.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-20 16:09:36
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Siren.Mosin said: »
promoted twice just by being good looking
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By Bloodrose 2015-03-20 16:10:48
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So handsome and good looking, he had to wear a ski mask to avoid being given more promotions than he could keep up with.
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By Siren.Mosin 2015-03-20 16:12:40
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I'm pretty lazy.
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By Lakshmi.Khyal 2015-03-20 18:51:49
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Who knows, maybe in 2 years time, a crowdfunded project might foster some new content development
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By protectorchrono 2015-03-20 18:53:08
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Lakshmi.Khyal said: »
Who knows, maybe in 2 years time, a crowdfunded project might foster some new content development


This is SE we're talking about. Devs will probably go into lazy mode/work on other things people actually want to pay for. I wouldn't hold onto false hope.
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By fonewear 2015-03-20 18:53:50
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I'll give in here is my real life pic:

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By Pantafernando 2015-03-20 19:08:04
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fonewear said: »
I'll give in here is my real life pic:


I thereby declare, this will be the real you, and no discussion will be accepted:

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By Muffz 2015-03-20 19:10:26
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Ragnarok.Hagenige said: »
SE: "We want to be finished with XI, but we do not want the player
base mad and cause problems for future release titles. How do we accomplish this?"


Facts,
Last expansion update on __November 2015__
PS2/360 support dead on __March 2016__
PS2/360 support dead __4 full months AFTER final update to the game__


If ps2/360 support is killed AFTER the Final expansions, and No further updates will occur. What is the point? Future updates could mean that, maybe something would be blocked/stopped/impossible due to ps2/360 limitations. How can this be so, however, if the FINAL UPDATES to the game occur 4 months prior to ps2/360 kill date?

So what is the purpose of this? Imagine if they did this a year ago, two years ago? Even two WEEKS ago! What would happen? Ps2/360 players, still thinking that content would be coming out, would buy PC copies and cointinue playing. Not all for sure, but I feel a vast majority would. Now, Imagine it the way it was announced. We'll get some content, THEN no more content THEN ps2/360 are killed. On top of that, phrases such as “We plan for this to be a grand conclusion to the FINAL FANTASY series' first MMORPG “ and “but there will continue to be minor version updates that address bugs and contain various balance adjustments ” are tossed around as well as mention of a new mobile game all together. Why? I think an intentional method to kill player base. Those ps2/360 players, having finished or at least had a 4 month period to finish the FINAL UPDATES are going to then, KNOWING THERE WILL BE NOTHING KNEW, buy a pc version and continue playing? Of course, some will. But as an entire community, do you think they will? No, they will simply be gone. Leaving the few that DO, as well as the current pc player base. So, why again? To intentionally kill playerbase off. “And hey, there will even be a new crappy FFXI related game to play when you're gone”.

Now, assuming I'm correct, we've lost a few people right there, but what about the PC users? Sure, that's a lot of people. But I saw no mention of possible server merges in the “but there will continue to be minor version updates that address bugs and contain various balance adjustments ” section. One could argue that “Various Balance Adjustments” could include server mergers, but in the past when they use that wording, it usually refers to an OP job/weapon/armor/stat/mob/etc. If they've killed off a lot of players, across all servers, and then do not merge servers, how hard will it be to find ppl to do things with? And What will you do? There is no longer a hope of “Future content that I will need bad *** gear for”. Simply a “I can get this gear for.... um... redoing my old stuff when I get bored” sort of mentality. We will lose more players due to low server numbers as well as simply lack of motivation in obtaining something that has no use after.

But, in all of this, we will not be able to cry at SE. Why? They gave us 1 more expansion in 3 parts, over the course of nearly a year.. They are keeping the game going after that even. They will even make a tablet/phone version. They are “doing their part” to keep this game alive. In the end, It will be lack of people interested in playing, that kill the game. Sever numbers, and as a whole, completely player numbers, will dwindle so far, that continuing will no longer be a smart financial move on SE's part. The game will THEN be officially killed due to Lack of Interest in fanbase. Well, that's not SE's fault right? That's our fault. I mean, They can't help that we all stopped playing right? And that, I feel, is their plan. Get US to kill XI so they do not have to be blamed for it. So when the NEXT game comes out, no one is mad and refusing to buy. I can't say SE is stupid for this. It makes sense... But, it's sad to see it happen. I could be wrong. I could be over thinking this. I could simply be an idiot. But, this is how the live presentation reads to me. I hope I'm completely wrong, but I do not think I am.

IMHO

I think anyone who didn't read this post because of TLDR or whatever needs to take a closer look. This is exactly what SE is doing. It's below SE to admit failure and throw in the towel.

They'll save face with the masses by shutting down FFXI this way. "We did all we could but the playerbase wasn't there." They didn't try. They simply gave up because they couldn't figure out a way to keep ffxi going and people interested.

I lost respect for SE when I realized this was just a way to make people quit. Man up SE.

MAN UP!
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By Lakshmi.Khyal 2015-03-20 19:13:11
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lol false hope?

protectorchrono said: »
Lakshmi.Khyal said: »
Who knows, maybe in 2 years time, a crowdfunded project might foster some new content development


This is SE we're talking about. Devs will probably go into lazy mode/work on other things people actually want to pay for. I wouldn't hold onto false hope.

lol false hope?
whats with you people?
cry somewhere else
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By Creativity 2015-03-20 19:15:25
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Or don't let the game die out :[
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By Cerberus.Anjisnu 2015-03-20 19:26:51
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surprisingly grape and vanilla go well together
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By Siren.Akson 2015-03-20 19:30:38
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Muffz said: »
I lost respect for SE when I realized this was just a way to make people quit. Man up SE.

MAN UP!
It's not that SE is trying to get you to quit. It's more that they are explaining that they don't intend to continue doing updates for FFXI beyond a certain point and are done with it. No port. No remake. Nothing. It's thier game and thier business decision to make. Enjoy the remainder of the ride while you can or continue playing beyond updates. That's your choice. Personally I hope SE winds up changing thier mind but atm idc cuz Nov is still a long ways off and I still got things I'd like to accomplish as is. If it's really Game Over after Nov idgaf whatsoever. That's life. I'll move on.
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By Creativity 2015-03-20 19:48:04
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Siren.Akson said: »
Muffz said: »
I lost respect for SE when I realized this was just a way to make people quit. Man up SE.

MAN UP!
It's not that SE is trying to get you to quit. It's more that they are explaining that they don't intend to continue doing updates for FFXI beyond a certain point and are done with it. No port. No remake. Nothing. It's thier game and thier business decision to make. Enjoy the remainder of the ride while you can or continue playing beyond updates. That's your choice. Personally I hope SE winds up changing thier mind but atm idc cuz Nov is still a long ways off and I still got things I'd like to accomplish as is. If it's really Game Over after Nov idgaf whatsoever. That's life. I'll move on.

First Socom now this :'[
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By Zubis 2015-03-20 19:50:11
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If SE want people to play FFXI, they might want to cut the Steam cost.

If you're someone who's on the fence for an online FF game, are you going to pay $20 for a new MMO, or $40 for a dying 12 year old one?
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By Phoenix.Yusshiryushi 2015-03-20 20:46:46
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LMAO!! Made my day. ^^
Along with a lot of other "things"(let's be fair) I read here.
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By protectorchrono 2015-03-20 21:40:41
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Lakshmi.Khyal said: »
lol false hope?

protectorchrono said: »
Lakshmi.Khyal said: »
Who knows, maybe in 2 years time, a crowdfunded project might foster some new content development


This is SE we're talking about. Devs will probably go into lazy mode/work on other things people actually want to pay for. I wouldn't hold onto false hope.

lol false hope?
whats with you people?
cry somewhere else


Whose crying? Seems the one who is crying here is you. I love FFXI, but I also live in the real world. I've long since come to terms with how things are for the game. I don't hold onto false hope, nor do I live in denial, especially if the decision has been made official.
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By Phoenix.Yusshiryushi 2015-03-20 21:50:50
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I will go beyond that curious date ;)
With my friends I made.
On Phoenix forever :)
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By DrGonzo 2015-03-20 22:47:05
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FFXI Mobile.

You mean better graphics.

Finally.
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