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By Veydal1 2022-02-06 17:17:25
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Ragnarok.Lowen said: »
I don't really understand your question, but something a lot of people don't realize is that you need to set priorities in every set you pass through during an action. That means idle, engaged, precast, midcast, and any post midcast modifications if you're doing those.

Count me as one of those people. Thanks!
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By zixxer 2022-02-07 01:23:26
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Are there any requirements for Gear Swap to leverage the priority feature to avoid dipping too low in HP between sets? I've tested with and without priorities assigned with no difference. Wondering if it's because I'm running on old files or something.

Only prioritize the gears that are causing the drop from from your FC set. Don't do all. it's ok to just use the same prioritize number. I hope this helps.
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By Asura.Evihime 2022-02-08 10:10:49
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Hey guys, anyone is able to tell me if the Bokura gs in the 1st page is still usable?

Or even better is any1 able to share his GS lua with me?

Im a returning player and im looking for a good PLD gearswap I can use, that woulkd allow me to shield dance etc.

Ty people!
 
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By Asura.Evihime 2022-02-08 10:38:40
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I currently use selindrile's for MNK WAR THF, but his PLD one is a bit complicated and doesnt actually have what I want, also I cant fully understand the way Aegis/ochain ara managed there.

If u tell me bokura has diff set with basic stuff like enmity set, flash, reprisal, cure etc with diff types like for example SIRD variation

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a way to swap shield when I want to

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a way to decide if im prioritizing meva or mdt or pdt

does it have variants if im engaged or not? If I want to DD or just full tank?


ALSO, if u guys think im doing it wrong im open to suggestions!
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By Asura.Neviskio 2022-03-06 23:45:39
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Anyone has a generic non-spell specific set for ennhancing midcast to be around 2.9/3k hp? I got some specific sets for the usual suspects like phalanx/reprisal/etc. just worried I'm using a set that drops too much hp.

Item requirements are generally a non-issue as I'll adjust it on my own once I got a benchmark for a high end set.

I've been lurking but keep only finding things that are too extreme into the enhancing and drop HP like crazy, tried to fix them on my own but think I'm just making bad sets...
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By Ramuh.Austar 2022-03-07 00:11:59
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i could add enhancing gear to my optimizer and post tomorrow.
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By Asura.Psycosocial 2022-03-07 04:35:48
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Asura.Neviskio said: »
Anyone has a generic non-spell specific set for ennhancing midcast to be around 2.9/3k hp? I got some specific sets for the usual suspects like phalanx/reprisal/etc. just worried I'm using a set that drops too much hp.

Item requirements are generally a non-issue as I'll adjust it on my own once I got a benchmark for a high end set.

I've been lurking but keep only finding things that are too extreme into the enhancing and drop HP like crazy, tried to fix them on my own but think I'm just making bad sets...

Can you post your current non-generic set and your fast cast set?
Can't think of many spells that aren't tied to a specific set, but my catch all for those is just enhancing magic duration+ (Shabti cuirass +1, Regal Gauntlets, Ajax if you don't care about shield swaps).
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By Asura.Neviskio 2022-03-07 14:11:26
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So my set is based from the brahmsz guide/selindrile base/stealing shamelessly from martel sets,

this is fc
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		ammo="Sapience Orb", --egoist tathlum?
		head="Carmine Mask +1",
		neck="Voltsurge Torque", --orunmila
		ear1="Tuisto Earring",
		ear2="Etiolation Earring",
		body="Rev. Surcoat +1", --+3 for 10%
		hands="Souv. Handsch. +1",
		ring1="Moonlight Ring",
		ring2="Kishar Ring",
		back=gear.fastcast_jse_back,
		waist="Creed Baudrier", --gold mog belt
		legs="Eschite Cuisses", --enif cosciales?
		feet="Camine Greaves +1"


the comments is what I'm considering/wish I had/notes. Rev. surcoat should be +3 but working on it so probably will need something else till then so that's more a placeholder for now.

Enhancing precast right now it's just that + siegel sash since I was not sure how to fix it to make it work honestly.

enhancing midcast
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		ammo="Staunch Tathlum",
		head="Carmine Mask +1",
		neck="Incanter's Torque", --Moonlight Necklace ?
		ear1="Mimir Earring",
		ear2="Andoaa Earring", --tuisto?
		body="Shab. Cuirass +1",
		hands="Regal Gauntlets",
		ring1="Defending Ring", --moonlight? stikini?
		ring1="Gelatinous Ring +1",
                back=gear.fastcast_jse_back,
		waist="Olympus Sash",
		legs="Carmine Cuisses +1",
		feet="Odyssean Greaves"


I think it's pretty horrible as a midcast enhancing so yeah... trying to build something decent <.<
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By Ramuh.Austar 2022-03-07 14:13:06
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besides phalanx are you even casting anything that requires enhancing skill? i guess maybe barspells if subbing something
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By Asura.Toralin 2022-03-10 10:24:01
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Little bit of a niche set but if I'm playing PLD these days it seems to be PLD/BLU for Odyssey Segment farm. Was thinking of ways I could contribute so made a macc set for Frightful Roar.

ItemSet 383984
Other than neckpiece with erra being +2 macc(would rather have the 15 enm/sird). Any thoughts or opinions? would blu skill neck/earring help?

Generally gather mobs > enmity aoe > brd sleep > frightful roar
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2022-03-10 10:36:19
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I am not a paladin, but might consider reverence surcoat +3 has -11% DT, more HP, +10 enmity, and +10% FC for the casting. lose out on the massive Meva though if that is a concern.

Edit: and SIRD doesn't matter unless you cap, iirc.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2022-03-10 10:40:58
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Casting on slept mobs, primary goal is macc and/or skill for that specific question

The rev coat does have more int (possibly more macc depending on R)
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By Bahamut.Belkin 2022-03-14 14:16:58
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Asura.Toralin said: »
Little bit of a niche set but if I'm playing PLD these days it seems to be PLD/BLU for Odyssey Segment farm. Was thinking of ways I could contribute so made a macc set for Frightful Roar.

ItemSet 383984
Other than neckpiece with erra being +2 macc(would rather have the 15 enm/sird). Any thoughts or opinions? would blu skill neck/earring help?

Generally gather mobs > enmity aoe > brd sleep > frightful roar

If you don't care about losing TP, Ullr is a pretty clear upgrade on that. I found it not worthwhile back when ML first came out, but I don't think I put any real m.acc behind it other than what I had on hand and now we've got 10 more ML as well. I'll probably re-visit.
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By Asura.Geriond 2022-03-14 14:26:24
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Raetic Bangles +1 would have more MACC and more INT/MMD (if those affect blue enfeeble MACC, which I think is unknown).
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By Fenrir.Velner 2022-03-14 14:50:11
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Asura.Toralin said: »
Little bit of a niche set but if I'm playing PLD these days it seems to be PLD/BLU for Odyssey Segment farm. Was thinking of ways I could contribute so made a macc set for Frightful Roar.

ItemSet 383984
Other than neckpiece with erra being +2 macc(would rather have the 15 enm/sird). Any thoughts or opinions? would blu skill neck/earring help?

Generally gather mobs > enmity aoe > brd sleep > frightful roar

Does that land reliably as /BLU?
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By Asura.Toralin 2022-03-14 18:47:47
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Fenrir.Velner said: »
Asura.Toralin said: »
Little bit of a niche set but if I'm playing PLD these days it seems to be PLD/BLU for Odyssey Segment farm. Was thinking of ways I could contribute so made a macc set for Frightful Roar.

ItemSet 383984
Other than neckpiece with erra being +2 macc(would rather have the 15 enm/sird). Any thoughts or opinions? would blu skill neck/earring help?

Generally gather mobs > enmity aoe > brd sleep > frightful roar

Does that land reliably as /BLU?
Meh, eyeballing about 30% haven’t tried with a macc food
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By Sylph.Siccmade 2022-04-27 11:14:56
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Hey folks, read over these past few pages a bunch while I've been building up the PLD and unfortunately I'm not quite solid on it.

If my Shield Skill is 451 in my basic tanking set, on a fight like Erinys listed at Lv. 150 where I'm tanking the Main plus Adds, which Shield is winning between Ochain, Srivatsa and Priwen?

Taking that a step further, is there like a blanket statement of a Mob Level and Shield Skill that dictates Ochain winning for Block Rate?

Thanks in advance.
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By Nariont 2022-04-27 11:44:35
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Ochain is always going to be the default block rate champ, only at around ilvl 139~ with reprisal up is where priwen can put up similar block numbers, though that may be true for some slightly higher ilvls now due to Master levels worth of shield skill
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By Asura.Otomis 2022-04-27 13:54:10
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I have personally found with capped haste, which keeps reprisal 100%, and higher lv content Priwen works wonderfully.

I am interested to see how shield are treated in the 20 year anniversary update.
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By Bahamut.Nolatari 2022-04-27 14:31:32
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Personally I have tanked everything pre odyssey with the priwen unless the fight called for aegis. I now normally use srivatsa, but will still use the priwen at times. Just going off your example of Erynis though and personal experience you can use priwen. You probably don’t want to use reprisal because you are just super tanking and the spikes effect will mean when the healer cures you the adds could run to the healer. Good luck
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2022-04-27 15:17:37
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Bahamut.Nolatari said: »
Personally I have tanked everything pre odyssey with the priwen unless the fight called for aegis. I now normally use srivatsa, but will still use the priwen at times. Just going off your example of Erynis though and personal experience you can use priwen. You probably don’t want to use reprisal because you are just super tanking and the spikes effect will mean when the healer cures you the adds could run to the healer. Good luck
Reprisal spikes(and any other sort of spikes) will not put you on the hate list for the adds. You can safely use reprisal while supertanking.
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By soralin 2022-04-29 11:33:07
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Im curious to see what are using for endgame content for weaponskills and hybrid combat (so maximizing DPS while still being able to hold hate and not die)

How does Savage Blade currently hold up vs Knights of the Round for an R15 Excalibur?
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By IGDC 2022-04-29 14:45:07
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Im curious to see what are using for endgame content for weaponskills and hybrid combat (so maximizing DPS while still being able to hold hate and not die)

How does Savage Blade currently hold up vs Knights of the Round for an R15 Excalibur?

I've seen a pld do 2.5 mil damage in ody C pulling them all in a row and spamming savage blade with burtgang. I havent seen an excal pld try it though to see what the damage difference is. Savage is still really good without naegling while tanking.
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By soralin 2022-05-01 12:32:41
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IGDC said: »
soralin said: »
Im curious to see what are using for endgame content for weaponskills and hybrid combat (so maximizing DPS while still being able to hold hate and not die)

How does Savage Blade currently hold up vs Knights of the Round for an R15 Excalibur?

I've seen a pld do 2.5 mil damage in ody C pulling them all in a row and spamming savage blade with burtgang. I havent seen an excal pld try it though to see what the damage difference is. Savage is still really good without naegling while tanking.

Doesnt really go into Knights of the Round though, which has an effective ftp mod of 11.676 with R15 Excal (5.0 x 1.68 x 1.39, with KoTR double bonus and 13% chance to do triple dmg)

As well as 40% str mod and 40% mnd mod.

Whereas Savage Blade I believe hits around the same ftp mod with TP bonus effects, but has 50%/50% str/mnd mods.
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By Asura.Geriond 2022-05-01 14:12:01
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The triple damage proc doesn't affect WSs.

Naegling also gives Savage a 15% damage bonus and an additional attack bonus that's usually 30% or higher in Odyssey.
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By soralin 2022-05-03 13:12:43
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Asura.Geriond said: »
Naegling also gives Savage a 15% damage bonus and an additional attack bonus that's usually 30% or higher in Odyssey.

My question is not about Naegling vs Excalibur, let me be clear.

My question is Savage Blade vs Knights of the Round when using Excalibur R15

Excalibur is far superior to Naegling by multiple metrics, you'd be silly to use Naegling over an R15 Excalibur.
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By Odin.Demhar 2022-05-03 20:17:45
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you can spam easy 15k~20k KOTR back to back at 1k tp and SC light with Excal
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