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By Bahamut.Omael 2015-02-20 18:29:14
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You've got to search and replace "Jews" with "Zionists". Then it'll all make sense.
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By fonewear 2015-02-20 18:33:06
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We need a SE conspiracy theory.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-02-20 18:39:03
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Either the President can or can't directly influence the economy. Make up your minds.
Tell that to Obama then. He believes that his magnificence is what grew the economy.

Besides, I never said that he personally did, I said his policies affect it.
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By Bloodrose 2015-02-20 18:40:59
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Either the President can or can't directly influence the economy. Make up your minds.
Tell that to Obama then. He believes that his magnificence is what grew the economy.

Besides, I never said that he personally did, I said his policies affect it.
Sounded more like a blanket statement to both sides.

One side says he's at fault for a slow recovery, loss of jobs, deficit, debt, etc. but can't be praised for anything good that happens.

The other side is just the opposite.

Which is the point he's trying to make.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-02-20 18:44:58
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Jetackuu said: »
What are you talking about? The economy has been improving (overall) since he got in office...
lol
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By fonewear 2015-02-20 18:46:41
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Obama is a Jew it explains everything.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-02-20 18:47:52
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What does improving mean to you?

For me it does not mean that people give up.
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By fonewear 2015-02-20 18:48:22
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The unemployment rate is great: upon further inspection millions of people stopped looking for a job !
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2015-02-20 18:49:45
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Either the President can or can't directly influence the economy. Make up your minds.
Tell that to Obama then. He believes that his magnificence is what grew the economy.

Besides, I never said that he personally did, I said his policies affect it.
Where does it say anything like that? lol

And obviously I'm talking policies.
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2015-02-20 18:57:44
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fonewear said: »
The unemployment rate is great: upon further inspection millions of people stopped looking for a job !
Now I see what you mean about you being serious is also you being depressing. I was discussing exactly this problem with yet another under-employed co-worker today.
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By fonewear 2015-02-20 19:05:22
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There are benefits to being unemployed you can sleep in !
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-02-20 19:15:49
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I'd rather be in my current position than unemployed, forced into retirement living somewhere much cheaper. Although I do like collecting rent money each month.

Hmm...
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-02-20 19:16:19
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Either the President can or can't directly influence the economy. Make up your minds.

Even if a president can directly influence the economy, it doesn't mean they automatically get credit for it taking a good turn. I'd say things are getting better in spite of Obama's policies, not because of them.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2015-02-20 19:20:00
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Either the President can or can't automatically be blamed/accredited for the economy. Make up your minds.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-02-20 19:25:14
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Little to no effect >> somewhat effect >> effect >> somewhat effect >> Little to no effect >> neutral >> Little to no effect >> somewhat effect >> effect >> somewhat effect >> Little to no effect.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-02-20 19:29:39
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Either the President can or can't automatically be blamed/accredited for the economy. Make up your minds.

Can't. I've never said otherwise.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2015-02-20 19:46:54
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Do you guys even know what you want here? I mean, all I've seen is extrapolation of his words to imply some greater involvement than should be given. Literally nothing can happen politically that he can't be blamed for. It's hilariously predictable to the point of being satirical. It even got play in that new healthcare.gov spot. Everyone is in on the joke except conservatives, apparently.
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By fonewear 2015-02-20 19:52:09
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Well it just so happens he is the President he isn't baking cookies for a living.

There is some responsibility with being President not just *** it Bush messed up the country. Republicans are evil I can't do this blah blah blah.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2015-02-20 20:28:15
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Vaccine Victims Tell Their Story
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By Jetackuu 2015-02-20 20:38:51
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Oh look, a conspiracy nut posting a video from other conspiracy nuts.
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By Altimaomega 2015-02-20 21:06:07
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Either the President can or can't directly influence the economy. Make up your minds.

Even if a president can directly influence the economy, it doesn't mean they automatically get credit for it taking a good turn. I'd say things are getting better in spite of Obama's policies, not because of them.

This takes way to much thought for people like this.

Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Either the President can or can't directly influence the economy. Make up your minds.


Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Either the President can or can't automatically be blamed/accredited for the economy. Make up your minds.

They can only fathom yes or no answers.
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2015-02-20 21:15:42
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fonewear said: »
Well it just so happens he is the President he isn't baking cookies for a living.
In fairness, he doesn't have the best track record with cookies.

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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-02-20 21:31:23
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Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Vaccine Victims Tell Their Story
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Ok, I for one believe in fighting fire with fire:

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Specifically note the following times:

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@4:39 (this really explains why Lordgrim is a Flower-Head)
@6:38

Now, here is the main question, is this YouTube video I posted correct or incorrect?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-02-20 21:44:30
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Oh boy, and we're back to anti-vax nonsense. I just want to hear how smallpox magically disappeared off the face of the planet, since vaccines clearly are evil. Everyone knows polio was practically eradicated in most countries by sheer willpower, so I won't bring that disease up too.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-02-20 21:55:43
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Oh boy, and we're back to anti-vax nonsense. I just want to hear how smallpox magically disappeared off the face of the planet, since vaccines clearly are evil. Everyone knows polio was practically eradicated in most countries by sheer willpower, so I won't bring that disease up too.
You probably don't want to bring up diphtheria either....
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By fonewear 2015-02-20 21:57:25
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What about the elevated mercury !
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2015-02-20 21:59:46
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Ok, I for one believe in fighting fire with fire:

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Specifically note the following times:

@1:49
@4:39 (this really explains why Lordgrim is a Flower-Head)
@6:38

Now, here is the main question, is this YouTube video I posted correct or incorrect?
Oh, good, I'd been waiting for SciShow to get this released.

Though... literally everyone here should pay attention to the points Hank is making about confirmation bias and the like. Literally. Everyone.

And, concurrently, what do we do about the problem of trying to convince someone their thoughts are wrong basically being counter-productive? Does that error (because it is an error) go away when one is aware of it? Since figuring the problem out a long time ago, I try to suspend my natural resistance to contrary data, but I am unsure how successful I am. This is confounded by the fact that what I believe may not necessarily be wrong, e.g., no argumentation is going to convince me that routine and virtually mandatory vaccination is immoral, dangerous, unhealthy, or otherwise wrong.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-02-20 21:59:58
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fonewear said: »
What about the elevated mercury !

Meh, I prefer Sailor Pluto. Wait, what were we talking about again?
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By Bloodrose 2015-02-20 22:01:18
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I was a fan of Jupiter.

That's right. The Tomboy.
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