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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-02-09 07:54:32
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All this time i kept giving you the benefit of doubt and thought you was my friend Mr. Nobody but you are nothing but an enemy. God help you now that i know who you are.
You are now figuring this out? Talk about dense.

I mean, I would have figured the first 20 times of me proving you wrong and telling you that your ideas are not only dangerous, but also more destructive than what you accuse the current system of doing.

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You know, create a surplus before reducing revenue.
Out of context yet still a very important word of advice.

This type of thinking needs to be done on all levels, from the individual all the way up to the federal government.

Trickle up!
I know that debt is a necessary part of growth, but on a personal level, it should be kept at an absolute minimum, and only for a short-term need (short-term in this case being 30 days or less).

I have minimal debt (only debt I have are credit cards that are paid off by the end of the billing cycle), and I continue to accumulate wealth because I'm not spending much money on interest payments. Although interest is very minor to me, anything that helps accumulate wealth is needed in my opinion.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2015-02-09 07:55:03
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
You know, create a surplus before reducing revenue.
Out of context yet still a very important word of advice.

This type of thinking needs to be done on all levels, from the individual all the way up to the federal government.

Trickle up!


well said chaosx i +1 you for that. Because that is part of the pathway to rebuilding a better america from the ground up.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-02-09 07:57:14
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
You know, create a surplus before reducing revenue.
Out of context yet still a very important word of advice.

This type of thinking needs to be done on all levels, from the individual all the way up to the federal government.

Trickle up!


well said chaosx i +1 you for that. Because that is part of the pathway to rebuilding a better america from the ground up.
You don't even understand what he is saying. You don't even understand what interest is.

How can you accept something you don't even understand?

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rp&r page 243 Lordgrim claims to be smarter than everyone else.
rp&r page 244 Lordgrim vs. the world.
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rp&r page 246 Lordgrim takes the brown pill.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2015-02-09 08:04:39
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“[G]overnment programs that reduce inequality can make the nation as a whole richer,” Krugman claims, “by reducing that waste.”

I can provide that you will never see republicans or democrats do it they are bought and sold by big everything.

Even Paul Krugman says its time to trickle up.
Trickle up economic policies for a better america


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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-02-09 08:11:08
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“[G]overnment programs that reduce inequality can make the nation as a whole richer,” Krugman claims, “by reducing that waste.”

I can provide that you will never see republicans or democrats do it they are bought and sold by big everything.

Even Paul Krugman says its time to trickle up.
Trickle up economic policies for a better america
Wow, talk about taking a quote out of context and skewing it for your own agenda.

Your skills are wasted in law, you would make a great journalist, especially for reputable papers like the National Enquirer and Star Magazine.

Seriously though, you need to learn how to read and analyze the article itself. A overly liberal source promoting increased spending without limits? Go figure.

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rp&r page 216 Lordgrim doesn't understand a thing.
rp&r page 221 Lordgrim asks a loaded, directed question.
rp&r page 223 Lordgrim doesn't have a clue.
rp&r page 228 Lordgrim pops.
rp&r page 233 Lordgrim: Leader of the Illuminati.
rp&r page 234 Lordgrim claims he is Jesus.
rp&r page 239 Lordgrim doesn't understand representation and appropriations bills.
rp&r page 240 Lordgrim claims to have an education, but doesn't prove it.
rp&r page 243 Lordgrim claims to be smarter than everyone else.
rp&r page 244 Lordgrim vs. the world.
rp&r page 245 Lordgrim posts some videos contradicting each other and his viewpoint.
rp&r page 246 Lordgrim takes the brown pill.
rp&r page 247 After 34 pages, Lordgrim still doesn't understand anything.
rp&r page 248 Lordgrim gets jelly.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-02-09 08:40:49
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The U.S. Army commander of the joint task force during Hurricane Katrina says Brian Williams’ story about seeing a dead body float by his New Orleans hotel room during the 2005 storm is “suspect.”

Lt. Gen. Russel L. Honoré told CNN’s “Reliable Sources” on Sunday that the flooding around Williams’ hotel — the Ritz-Carlton — at the time the NBC News anchor said he saw the body float by would likely not have been high enough, as there was relatively little flooding in the French Quarter, the area where Williams was staying.

“It would be very suspect,” Honoré said. “But anything’s possible.”

Honoré said while it was possible Williams saw a dead body float by, it was unlikely because the water was “well below knee level around the Ritz-Carlton.”

The retired general also said if Williams did see a dead body, he should’ve reported it to authorities or tried to help the victim.

“If he was a newsman and saw a body floating by his hotel, why didn’t he go grab it? Why didn’t he get somebody and report it?” Honoré wondered. “Either report it — which you’re supposed to do — or as a human being go out and try to assist that person or get somebody.”

Williams also said his hotel was “overrun with gangs,” an assertion Honoré said was never corroborated.

Honoré’s comments come as stories Williams told on and off air are under intense scrutiny after the “NBC Nightly News” anchor admitted last week he embellished his experience in Iraq, where he said a helicopter he had been traveling in during a 2003 sandstorm came under fire.

Don Helus, an Iraq war veteran who was piloting the helicopter that was hit by a rocket-propelled grenade and forced down, contradicted another part of Williams’ story, saying there is no way the newsman would’ve been able to see “down the tube of an RPG that had been fired on us,” as Williams had claimed in 2007.

“If he’s that close, then he’s got bigger problems,” Helus said on CNN. “The only thing you see coming off of an RPG is the smoke trail and explosion. Like I said, if you’re that close, you have bad luck.”

Helus said when his unit returned to Kuwait, he heard Williams’ account of the story in an online video and contacted NBC to report the embellishment.

Still, Helus said he wasn’t surprised that Williams would exaggerate the story.

“We have embellishers in the military [who] try to, I guess, tell a story of their war medals and, you know, their time in combat,” Helus said. “I assume you as journalists have the same in yours. The fact is that Mr. Williams wasn’t in or near our aircraft at the time [it was hit]. It saddens me that you have so many other combat journalists out there who are in that type of situation. You know, seeing those things happen. More than likely, they probably don’t tell the story like that, you know, with embellishment.”

Honoré said Williams violated an unwritten rule of telling war stories by making the stories “about him.”

Chief Allan Kelly, who was piloting the helicopter Williams was in, said it was “possible” Williams could have thought the helicopter was taking fire if he had been listening to chatter from the other two on a headset.

“Anything’s possible,” Kelly said. “I don’t remember if they were hooked up on headsets or not and could hear what was going on. We had a lot of stuff going on in the radios. We had a couple of aircraft that were calling for help, being shot down. ... So, Mr. Williams in the back, he’s free to look out the windows back there. He wouldn’t see much. If he was on headsets and heard radio calls over guard, it’s possible he could have thought that, I suppose.”

On Saturday, Williams announced that he was taking a temporary leave of absence from “Nightly News.”

“In the midst of a career spent covering and consuming news, it has become painfully apparent to me that I am presently too much a part of the news, due to my actions,” Williams said in a memo to NBC staffers. “I have decided to take myself off of my daily broadcast for the next several days. Upon my return, I will continue my career-long effort to be worthy of the trust of those who place their trust in us.”

On Friday, NBC News President Deborah Turness said the network was conducting an internal investigation into Williams’ statements. Lester Holt will anchor “Nightly News” in Williams’ absence.

An unnamed NBC News executive told the Los Angeles Times that “the fact-checking into Williams’ reporting on Iraq and his 2005 coverage of Hurricane Katrina had turned up no issues to change the anchor’s status” and it is expected that Williams “will return after the self-imposed hiatus.”

In December, NBC signed Williams, who had recently celebrated his 10th anniversary as “Nightly News” anchor, to a new five-year contract worth a reported $10 million per year.

“Brian is one of the most trusted journalists of our time,” Turness wrote in a memo to staffers announcing the new deal. “He has led this organization through every major news event for the last decade, from Hurricane Katrina in his first year in the anchor chair to his exclusive interview with Edward Snowden this year, through elections, wars, natural disasters, tragedies and triumphs. In all of those cases he’s taken ‘Nightly News’ viewers to the heart of the stories that matter most in a way that’s uniquely his.”
Brian Williams’ account of seeing dead body float by hotel during Katrina ‘very suspect,’ commander says
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2015-02-09 08:43:50
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I did read it and i am not for the affordable healthcare act because it is anything but affordable and forces and penalized the american people who do not want it when health care should be a right and not cost a dime to companies or individual citizens. I know a lot of people would love the federal reserve abolished, and the lie that is known as the 16th amendment repealed. Just those two things removed would lower taxes for each and every state by 30-40% alone that includes companies and individual citizens. I call that equality and trickle up economics. Mr.nobody is going to say more money in peoples hands is a bad thing and that it does not encourage spending because it keeps Capitalism Honest and discourages wasteful production.




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By Siren.Lordgrim 2015-02-09 09:04:32
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When Wal-Mart sent three trailer trucks loaded with water, FEMA officials turned them away, he said. Agency workers prevented the Coast Guard from delivering 1,000 gallons of diesel fuel, and on Saturday they cut the parish's emergency communications line, leading the sheriff to restore it and post armed guards to protect it from FEMA, Mr. Broussard said.

i remember Katrina well and i never forgot.

These will be gifted to the Republicans and Democrats who Falsely represent We The People

This shows you who's side the republicans and democrats are on which is themselves and not the people.
Treason supported by Republicans and Democrats against the American people



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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-02-09 09:11:22
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Nothing in life is free.
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By fonewear 2015-02-09 09:13:23
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Nothing in life is free.

Love is free but it is pretty expensive...
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2015-02-09 09:14:17
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Nothing in life is free.

your right, taxes never go away there will still be taxes but it will be a fair simplified tax code. thank you Chaosx for the katrina article, i never forgot that and it will be used as well, never deny any source in a investigation. A Better America is coming in our lifetime.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-02-09 09:23:50
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forces and penalized the american people who do not want it when health care should be a right and not cost a dime to companies or individual citizens.
Add "innovation" and "research & development" to the growing lists of words and concepts that Lordgrim doesn't understand.

Health care cannot be free, as there is a cost to supply services to people, regardless if you see it or not. Who's going to pay for the doctors who preform the procedures? Who's going to pay for the specialists to do their thing? Who's going to pay for the pharmacies to provide the medicine to the sick? Who's going to pay for the research involved in creating the new drug to cure the latest disease?

Sorry, but answers do not come from trees or grow out of the ground.

Siren.Lordgrim said: »
I know a lot of people would love the federal reserve abolished, and the lie that is known as the 16th amendment repealed.
Personal friends shouldn't count. I know a whole lot more people who do not understand the workings of the economy and what the Federal Reserve does for the country. I just quoted one now.

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Just those two things removed would lower taxes for each and every state by 30-40% alone that includes companies and individual citizens.
You are right, it would lower taxes because nearly everyone would be out of work and have zero income. That's the definition of a destitute country, when nearly all of the citizens have zero or negative income.

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I call that equality and trickle up economics.
If by equality means making everyone like the worst person in the country, then I don't want to buy your brand of "equality."

I rather make everyone like the most prosperous person in the country, not the poorest.

That's what you are encouraging....

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Mr.nobody is going to say more money in peoples hands is a bad thing and that it does not encourage spending because it keeps Capitalism Honest and discourages wasteful production.
No, I'm saying that your ideas are counterproductive and destructive. Which is what it is. I'm sorry that you cannot see that, and I'm saddened that you believe that, by removing the core piece of the economy, you think that everyone is going to magically have jobs and money, although you cannot comprehend the cause and effect of how reality works.

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When Wal-Mart sent three trailer trucks loaded with water, FEMA officials turned them away, he said. Agency workers prevented the Coast Guard from delivering 1,000 gallons of diesel fuel, and on Saturday they cut the parish's emergency communications line, leading the sheriff to restore it and post armed guards to protect it from FEMA, Mr. Broussard said.
This shows you who's side the republicans and democrats are on which is themselves and not the people.
Treason supported by Republicans and Democrats against the American people

Again, taking a quote from an article that bashes a government agency and make it sound like it's a Republican/Democrat act makes you sound ignorant....

Don't you have a cult to go to? Make sure to drink extra punch there.

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rp&r page 216 Lordgrim doesn't understand a thing.
rp&r page 221 Lordgrim asks a loaded, directed question.
rp&r page 223 Lordgrim doesn't have a clue.
rp&r page 228 Lordgrim pops.
rp&r page 233 Lordgrim: Leader of the Illuminati.
rp&r page 234 Lordgrim claims he is Jesus.
rp&r page 239 Lordgrim doesn't understand representation and appropriations bills.
rp&r page 240 Lordgrim claims to have an education, but doesn't prove it.
rp&r page 243 Lordgrim claims to be smarter than everyone else.
rp&r page 244 Lordgrim vs. the world.
rp&r page 245 Lordgrim posts some videos contradicting each other and his viewpoint.
rp&r page 246 Lordgrim takes the brown pill.
rp&r page 247 After 34 pages, Lordgrim still doesn't understand anything.
rp&r page 248 Lordgrim gets jelly.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-02-09 09:25:48
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Siren.Lordgrim said: »
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Nothing in life is free.

your right, taxes never go away there will still be taxes but it will be a fair simplified tax code. thank you Chaosx for the katrina article, i never forgot that and it will be used as well, never deny any source in a investigation. A Better America is coming in our lifetime.
Didn't you just say you wanted to abolish the tax system? I mean, that's part of the 16th Amendment....

So, you want to abolish the tax code to set up your version of the tax code?

Yeah.....good luck there bub.
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By Jetackuu 2015-02-09 09:31:48
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Where exactly are we going to cut in the federal budget where we haven't already? We are down to less than 500 billion, where are we going to cut that?
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2015-02-09 09:34:19
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You are right, it would lower taxes .

See Mr.Nobody agrees with me everyone finally the lemmoning has come to his senses somewhat.

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because nearly everyone would be out of work and have zero income.

Wait i take that back because he thinks the federal reserve makes jobs, the only thing the federal reserve makes is DEBT and devalues a nations currency and leads a nation down a path of ruination and favors the too big to fail and loves trickle down policies and war.


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By fonewear 2015-02-09 09:34:45
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The only real solution is to increase tax on those corporate fat cats!


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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-02-09 09:53:05
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Jetackuu said: »
Where exactly are we going to cut in the federal budget where we haven't already? We are down to less than 500 billion, where are we going to cut that?
Latest proposed federal budget is $3.99 Trillion.
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By fonewear 2015-02-09 09:54:54
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Jetackuu said: »
Where exactly are we going to cut in the federal budget where we haven't already? We are down to less than 500 billion, where are we going to cut that?
Latest proposed federal budget is $3.99 Trillion.

With 0% chance that it gets passed !
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By Ramyrez 2015-02-09 09:56:30
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As much as I think Lordgrim is just laughably tinfoil hatted up most of the time, can we get a specific thread just for Lordgrim and KN to joust back and forth? This is getting hard to even scroll past disinterested...
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By Jetackuu 2015-02-09 09:58:22
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Jetackuu said: »
Where exactly are we going to cut in the federal budget where we haven't already? We are down to less than 500 billion, where are we going to cut that?
Latest proposed federal budget is $3.99 Trillion.

I mean less than 500 billion in deficit.

Sorry, I didn't make that entirely clear.

I mean aside from putting Congress on the insurance exchanges, cutting their lifetime packages, along with their staff (what insurance does their staff usually use anyway?).

I do find it interesting that a M.D. is head of the House budget committee.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-02-09 09:58:23
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Get a room already you two!
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Get a room already you two!
lol

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By Jetackuu 2015-02-09 10:04:00
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Honestly I'd find our foreclosure and bankruptcy rate to be a bigger issue that should be addressed at the moment, along with our infrastructure. We keep dawdling behind other nations with internet speeds and capacities we will get severely behind.
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By fonewear 2015-02-09 10:05:50
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Well America is a big country so access for broadband for everyone is not as easy as it seems.

Have you ever been to Kansas ? I have there is nothing there.
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By Jetackuu 2015-02-09 10:09:35
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Well America is a big country so access for broadband for everyone is not as easy as it seems.

Have you ever been to Kansas ? I have there is nothing there.
Why are you being serious, you're on timeout.

I'm aware of the physical issue, it's why I hope that they reclassify the internet as a utility (as it should be), then new lines can be run using the public infrastructure, instead of having to invest in all new.

It will literally define our technological future (and is quite possibly one of our only ways to rid ourselves of the grasp that Comcast has on a lot of us).
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By fonewear 2015-02-09 10:12:17
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Verizon is at least implementing fios which is a better option in the future.

Rhode Island has 97% fiber optic coverage. Rhode Island here I come !

We need fiber optics cause the porn of the future demands it !
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By Jetackuu 2015-02-09 10:15:46
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Verizon is at least implementing fios which is a better option in the future.

Rhode Island has 97% fiber optic coverage. Rhode Island here I come !
Too bad Verizon is about the only company in comparison to Comcast in it's complete trashy treatment of customers and bad billing practices.

The rest of the cell phone companies (and probably cable) come next.
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