Random Politics & Religion #00

There isn't some secret society conspiring to keep the "Truth" from people. Most simply didn't pay attention in class, or never really cared to read into the time period. The worst are the exceptionalists who deny the US could have done anything wrong.

Wasn't presented directly by Hitler, it was presented by German ambassadors. Your desired picture is included.

Ford and GM Scrutinized for Alleged Nazi Collaboration

He did receive the medal. That is a historical fact.

The shady area is whether or not Ford (and GM, for that matter) had any control over their European branches producing vehicles and machinery for Hitler's war engine.

This is information that's been public for quite some time.


Edit: All I'm saying is this one instance of Lordgrim's normally-inane babble has some basis in reality. "The Greatest Generation" and their rugged, depression-defying parents aren't necessarily as wholesome and clean cut as we constantly hold them up as being.

He received the Grand Cross of the German Eagle in July of 1938. World War II started in September 1, 1939. So, when Ford received that medal, Hitler wasn't even considered an enemy (to any nation) at that time.

He received the Grand Cross of the German Eagle in July of 1938. World War II started in September 1, 1939. So, when Ford received that medal, Hitler wasn't even considered an enemy (to any nation) at that time.

Yeah, Lordgrim's babble has some merit, but only if you take the *** (that is, Lordgrim himself) out of the fact.

That's like saying Aliens invaded Scotland before written history because some guys build Stonehenge.

All I'm asking is where is the proof Henry Ford sold anything to Germany during WWII?

Yeah, but that's like saying NK's idiotic regime "isn't an enemy".

By the time the 1936 Olympics rolled around, we all knew the Nazis were a bunch of scumbags.

And that's where I already said the shady/grey area rests.

It's a question of whether or not GM and Ford had control of their European factories. They obviously say no. Historical documents don't necessarily support that assertation, however...

I've told you not to delve into these subjects because you don't know anything about them. Enemies don't become enemies when the first shot is fired, Hitler was a huge threat in 1938, the Munich Pact was a giant landgrab that started churning the warmachine. Hitler was the enemy the moment he seized power.

So, let me ask you this then: If somehow it was proven that Ford had dealings with Nazi Germany, what are you going to do about it?

Whatever you say Lordgrim.

Its because he doesn't know these things and tries to posture in a manner so as to maintain some kind of perceived credibility he already lost a long time ago...it's why he thinks the proof doesn't exist.

Seriously he is saying he never heard of Union Banking and Fritz Thysman? Or that Ford was a Nazi supporter or that Fanta was a product created so that Coca-Cola could sell product in Nazi Germany? Ffs.

Only person here who's trying to make an argument where there is none (and creating strawmans out of his *** to do so) is Vic.

I've told you not to delve into these subjects because you don't know anything about them. Enemies don't become enemies when the first shot is fired, Hitler was a huge threat in 1938, the Munich Pact was a giant landgrab that started churning the warmachine. Hitler was the enemy the moment he seized power.

Did Bill Clinton really have an affair with Elizabeth Hurley during his presidency? A shocking new report claimed Hillary Clinton’s husband slept with the British model for a year and even had sex with her in the White House.

This bombshell story came from actor Tom Sizemore, who dated Hurley for several years. A new audio recording unearthed by Radar Online supposedly featured Sizemore revealing how he set up Elizabeth Hurley’s affair with Bill Clinton.

Per Radar, then-President Bill Clinton met Sizemore at a 1998 White House screening of the film Saving Private Ryan. Clinton then showed the actor the Lincoln Bedroom but quickly began asking Sizemore about his ex.

“[Bill Clinton asked me] Did you go with Liz Hurley for four years?” Sizemore said on the recording. “Do you still see her?”

Tom Sizemore then revealed that he was no longer dating Elizabeth Hurley. The President thus asked for the model’s number, though Sizemore was a bit hesitant at first.

“[Clinton said] Give it to me,” Sizemore continued. “You dumb mother f---er, I’m the Commander-in-Chief of the United States of America. The buck stops here. Give me the damn number.”

Bill Clinton Bill Clinton has not yet commented on the latest cheating allegations.

Bill Clinton then supposedly dialed Elizabeth Hurley’s number right there in the White House. He then allegedly sent a plane to the model's house to take her to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

“She was there for four days,” Tom Sizemore said of Elizabeth Hurley’s supposed affair with Bill Clinton. “He f---ed her that night. I asked [Hurley], what was it like there? ... I said was Hillary a problem? And she said ‘No, they sleep in different bedrooms.’ Bill said that, he intimated to Elizabeth that they have been, they’re in love, but they stopped [sleeping together] a long time ago, and they both have separate romantic lives.”

According to Tom Sizemore, Bill Clinton’s affair with Elizabeth Hurley lasted for about a year. But the President ended things when he felt he was falling in love with the model.

“At a certain point, he told her, ‘I don’t do love, and I’m beginning to think I might love you,”’ Sizemore concluded.

Radar Online contacted a rep for Elizabeth Hurley, but the spokesperson refused to comment on this alleged Bill Clinton affair. However, the rep did not deny the tabloid rumor, either.

UPDATE: On Wednesday, Elizabeth Hurley took to Twitter to deny the Bill Clinton affair rumors. "Ludicrously silly stories about me & Bill Clinton," she wrote. "Totally untrue. In the hands of my lawyers. Yawn."

It’s worth noting that Radar Online is not the most reputable source. And while the website does have an audio recording of Tom Sizemore’s remarks, the actor has struggled with drug addiction and thus may not be trustworthy, either.

Still, the model previously expressed an attraction to politicians. So perhaps this report of a Bill Clinton/Liz Hurley affair is not so far-fetched, after all.

“Powerful folk can be sexy,” Hurley said in 2010. “I adore Clinton; you know, naughty but nice with a very sexy voice.”

“You dumb mother f---er, I’m the Commander-in-Chief of the United States of America. The buck stops here. Give me the damn number.”

as the only supplier of automobiles during that time for Germany was BMW).

Volkswagen and Daimler-Benz are at least two more off the top of my head, at least that still exist today. I wouldn't be suprised to find more if searching for them.

Volkswagen and Daimler-Benz are at least two more off the top of my head, at least that still exist today. I wouldn't be suprised to find more if searching for them.

Fun Fact 2: The BMW emblem is white propellers over blue skies as they built war planes during the war.

Volkswagen and Daimler-Benz are at least two more off the top of my head, at least that still exist today. I wouldn't be suprised to find more if searching for them.