Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Yeah, it's not accurate.
Also, again: I don't troll.
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Will you at least admit that Hillary lied after the attack?
About what?
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Witch hunt over yet? I mean Hilary may be old but it doesn't mean she's a witch. Jerks.
I like to imagine Obama grinning "just as planned" to the guys in the Benghazi compound before everyone died.
I like to imagine Obama grinning "just as planned" to the guys in the Benghazi compound before everyone died.
This would have been over two years ago if they just told the truth. Obviously, people that like him like him no matter what. He still would have been reelected.
But please don't sit there and tell me that they told the truth after the attack.
Read the emails. They are short. Refresh your memory. Read her quotes about the attack. They are short.
I don't think you will even debate that she lied.
The thing is, after years of inquiry and public statements, they've found no proof of anything. They've verified multiple levels of incompetence and miscommunication, but even the committee members have admitted that there is nothing there. The official reports were corroborated many times over. People died, it sucks, politicians did some polticing, that sucks too.
Jassik said: »
The thing is, after years of inquiry and public statements, they've found no proof of anything. They've verified multiple levels of incompetence and miscommunication, but even the committee members have admitted that there is nothing there. The official reports were corroborated many times over. People died, it sucks, politicians did some polticing, that sucks too.
They found proof of the lies and coverup the week after. There's that. It goes to the crux of the matter.
I won't even go into Monday morning quarterbacking the entire actual event. By most accounts they have taken measures to better protect our people overseas since.
It was the blatant lies they told and the complete distrust they had for the American people afterwards. It was more than some politicking.
The stupid thing is they completely misread the American people. Events like this tend to unite us. Continuing this lie for so many years just makes them look like really bad people to me and the people that knowingly go along with the lie destroy their own credibility. It's just weird. 100% of people know she lied yet her supporters continue the lie knowing everyone knows it's a lie. It makes no sense.
Anna Ruthven said: »
No it is very relevant for reasons already discussed. It was a blatant attempt at a coverup two months before the election because an attack by a radical Islam terrorist organization flies in the face of the then current state of America that he was running on. And you just don't think it's really bad in general regardless of timing that the White House completely lies about an event so large and tragic? Blaming a youtube video made by an American shifts blame from a terrorist organization and attempts to put it on the intolerance of Americans.
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Anna Ruthven said: »
No it is very relevant for reasons already discussed. It was a blatant attempt at a coverup two months before the election because an attack by a radical Islam terrorist organization flies in the face of the then current state of America that he was running on. And you just don't think it's really bad in general regardless of timing that the White House completely lies about an event so large and tragic? Blaming a youtube video made by an American shifts blame from a terrorist organization and attempts to put it on the intolerance of Americans.
I kinda lost my train of thought here but my point, simply put, is to not expect an apology or even acknowledgement of fault. This tragedy is like a wound that is being kept open for the sake of figuring out what caused the wound in the first place rather than letting it heal. Most sane people are tired of hearing about it and the repetition of Benghazi coverage has turned a great tragedy into a memetic beating of a dead horse by U.S. news outlets and politicians who would rather anger their nation via rubbing salt in it's wounds than lead it.
That's my take on it; the 2012 Benghazi attack was a great tragedy, the Benghazi scandal is is the reason we will never heal. It isn't about who's right or wrong or who caused it, it's about moving forward and learning from it.
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
You are not correct.
Yet I am, I've read the same material, it doesn't say what you think it says.
Anna Ruthven said: »
It isn't about who's right or wrong or who caused it, it's about moving forward and learning from it.
well unfortunately that would make sense, & there's no room for that in politics.
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Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Jassik said: »
The thing is, after years of inquiry and public statements, they've found no proof of anything. They've verified multiple levels of incompetence and miscommunication, but even the committee members have admitted that there is nothing there. The official reports were corroborated many times over. People died, it sucks, politicians did some polticing, that sucks too.
They found proof of the lies and coverup the week after. There's that. It goes to the crux of the matter.
I won't even go into Monday morning quarterbacking the entire actual event. By most accounts they have taken measures to better protect our people overseas since.
It was the blatant lies they told and the complete distrust they had for the American people afterwards. It was more than some politicking.
The stupid thing is they completely misread the American people. Events like this tend to unite us. Continuing this lie for so many years just makes them look like really bad people to me and the people that knowingly go along with the lie destroy their own credibility. It's just weird. 100% of people know she lied yet her supporters continue the lie knowing everyone knows it's a lie. It makes no sense.
I still don't know what you're talking about. The very first official press conference called it a terrorist attack. Details were withheld, which is very common when it comes to national security, and that pisses you off because it fits your agenda.
Continuing to scream about it isn't doing the victims or their families any good, either, and it sure doesn't seem to be hurting Hillary's polls. So, best to find a topic that's actually relevant, since this course hasn't been very productive for the GOP so far.
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Jassik said: »
Continuing to scream about it doesn't seem to be hurting Hillary's polls. So, best to find a topic that's actually relevant, since this course hasn't been very productive for the GOP so far.
the 2014 congressional elections disagree with you
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Jassik said: »
Continuing to scream about it doesn't seem to be hurting Hillary's polls. So, best to find a topic that's actually relevant, since this course hasn't been very productive for the GOP so far.
the 2014 congressional elections disagree with you
Off cycle elections always favor Republicans because they show up, but it also followed the pattern of undecided swing and had a large disparity in incumbent affiliation. Analysts were predicting the shift in 2010.
Jassik said: »
Off cycle elections always favor Republicans because they show up, but it also followed the pattern of undecided swing and had a large disparity in incumbent affiliation. Analysts were predicting the shift in 2010.
That's just outright logical.
When it swings back the other way it'll be because someone promised lazy people free stuff or something.
We always hear about the "cover up" in regards to Benghazi, but why the same group always clam up when people ask why there wasn't adequate security there in the first place?
Ah, in the end, Aman couldn't actually offer a suggestion over what should have been done differently. I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
I also see that Hilary testified for 11 hours and yet no new information was gleaned, no new questions were asked, and we still know everything that happened that night. Now the GOP can release the exact same partisan report that the first committee typed up, and hopefully this can be the end of taxpayer dollars going to waste.
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Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Ah, in the end, Aman couldn't actually offer a suggestion over what should have been done differently. I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
In the end Aman went to work.
Let's try this. What they could have done differently was tell the truth after the attack and not blame a youtube video. There's that. My beef has always been with the lies and coverup.
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
I also see that Hilary testified for 11 hours and yet no new information was gleaned, no new questions were asked, and we still know everything that happened that night. Now the GOP can release the exact same partisan report that the first committee typed up, and hopefully this can be the end of taxpayer dollars going to waste.
Still 22 more witnesses and a ton of documents the state department has yet to hand over. So 'taint over yet.
She slso testified under oath today about specific emails which the FBI investors may find useful.
Please stop pretending to care about tax dollars being spent.
I went to work as well. I suggest you get over your "beef" because nothing is going to change it and its 3 years obsolete. You haven't actually cited what Hilary lied about, probably because you don't even know what she said, or if she said anything.
Its over, nobody cares what those other witnesses have to say, nobody even knows who they are. They don't know anything that hasn't already been discovered. Just type up the report, blame Hilary, and go home.
Its over, nobody cares what those other witnesses have to say, nobody even knows who they are. They don't know anything that hasn't already been discovered. Just type up the report, blame Hilary, and go home.
No thanks, I'm not doing your work for you. I know what happened that night.
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
I also see that Hilary testified for 11 hours and yet no new information was gleaned, no new questions were asked, and we still know everything that happened that night. Now the GOP can release the exact same partisan report that the first committee typed up, and hopefully this can be the end of taxpayer dollars going to waste.
This hearing is great publicity for Hillary. This isn't hurting her electibility whatsoever, which is what Republicans want. The hastag #freehillary became popular during the hearing. People are sympathizing with her for having to endure this bullcrap.
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