Bubble Trouble: A Geomancer Guide

You forgot Lehko's ring.

Also consider Genmei shield instead of Ammurapi for the extra melee accuracy.

Geo needs all the melee accuracy they can get to reliably land WS on HM Aminon.

Thanks for the tips, yall. I'm gonna have to make a compromise on the TVR ring since I use pdl.

My team does magic method, so I didn't even think about refining my melee sets. I switched over from COR, so I'm relatively new to the job as it is. Been having fun optimizing everywhere I can.

For HM Aminon the only known (non-insane) strategy is melee WS from everyone with TP denial. Magic dmg does not do anything with that setup.

For normal Aminon magic strat is still possible.

It has been 5+ years since i touched GEO and had a question or two please.
I recall having PET regen/DT set separate from my normal idle set.
Is a pet regen/dt set still used these days or no? I ask mainly cause i recall my old set leaving the GEO pretty exposed. Thanks.

I have two idle sets for GEO, one for when the pet will be taking damage and one where it is safe from all aoe.

Both of them are capped master DT and it's not particularly challenging to do with empy+3 gear.

The difference in my sets is incorporating more refresh in place of pet DT/pet regen

I have 3 different idle sets for GEO.

1) Luopan is not out (Refresh with defensive stats in all the free slots plus movement speed 18%)

2) Luopan is out, master is safe (capped pet DT, all the pet regen I could get, refresh in the few available slots)

3) Luopan is out, master is in danger (cappet pet DT, capped master DT, pet regen and refresh if possible in the free slots)


They used to be extremely different, now I gotta say they're pretty similar, but I still keep them separate.

ItemSet 396037

Wondering about above absorb-tp set for NQ/HM Aminon
I have PDL ring so cant get the extra haste from there and Agwu is R0 sadly.
Recast is 12 sec with capped magic haste.

Not sure if MACC will be any issue and exactly how low i can go...
I tested recast in just full FC set and it is 11 sec. That is 88 FC and 23 gear haste.

Any tips would be welcome. Thanks.

Recast is 1 minute, meaning if you have capped recast it will be 12s. If you saw 11 seconds, it was just slowness getting to the menu to check the recast or an addon showing you the wrong data, or something like that.

Set seems good

Macc isn't generally an issue (for GEO) as your RDM is going to be doing a Saboteur Frazzle III. Set is good. Might consider picking up ~3ish gear haste somewhere just to get to 25/26% gear haste, but otherwise looks nice.

What weapon are people using for Judgment?

Idris is very strong for judgment, when augmented.

Ive been using Cait Hammer.
Thoughts?
ItemSet 397024

Str30 acc20 wsdmg10%

Best is Tish, specially at 15. Idris is second. Assuming that question is for aminon. Advantage of Idris is if you recast the bubble, you won’t mess it up. Advantage of Tish, well +500 TP is a WS every 15 seconds


Edit: at the same time I don’t think I have ever try with meow meow, what number you pulling? Not sure the 16dmg > TP bonus for aminon if that the case you talking about

Edit #2: same assumption, aminon, swap those rings/neck, you need 30 SB in every set including WS

Yeh i was under the assumption that DMG:212 was important.

I am only going to begin parse from now. Will also be trying to WS at 2k TP~

I don't need 30 SB lol seems fine :)

Well, most group insist on SB, just saying. Judgment (pardon my lack of understanding but BG say 180+((delay so 265-180)x65)%270= 20 or 38, not geek but one of those numbers, actually not groundbreaking to don’t have SB, so I tend to be wrong I guess. Anyone can trash me up here?

I don't find myself going at very low TP values, so the TP bonus from Tish is meh to me. There are 3 decent clubs for Judgment other than Tish.

Magesmasher +1 220 base damage, +15% WSD, +17 MND
Cath Palug hammer 212 base damage, +25 MND
Maxentius 200 base damage, +15 MND

Love to hear magemasher’s numbers. Tish for example pull about45k-50K at 2-2250.

Are you talking NQ or HQ Aminon?

Yes those NQ, HQ is 35-ish

Well I don't have Magesmasher +1 yet because life has been super busy lately, but I averaged 61k on an NQ Aminon last night with Cath Palug.


430562 / 7 = 61508

If this is for Aminon, HQ chiefly, how are you keeping your bubble alive without Idris? Using some other pet -dt pieces to compensate? But that means less dt/store tp for yourself.

Is it really worth it to switch out Idris if you don't have something like a prime club?

My averages with R15 Idris are around 25-27k for HQ Aminon, going at ~1700tp.

I mentioned this in another thread but Mirukuu, the GEO in my group, hasn't been using Idris for...well probably ever since we started doing Aminon. He's never had a bubble die that I'm aware of.

Even if Aminon somehow outdoes the HP gained from absorbs (JSE neck in idle), you have Dematerialize, Life Cycle, and then RD/WC will reset those.

There's no chance your bubbles will die on Aminon, Idris or otherwise.

You're also swapping bubbles after ~3.5m when Bolster wears off (Assuming < 5 WC) for a Blaze bubble.

Have you had trouble with your bubble getting low? How much pet regen do you have in your idle set? Are you including JSE neck in your idle set?

My pet regen is.. 30 in idle set, +2 neck. For a blaze+ecliptic bubble, I need life cycle to keep it alive for the full 10min. But our kill times are 20ish minutes.

Is your RDM doing Slow 2, Para 2, BRD doing Elegy?

Some groups (sometimes mine) opt to not debuff her too much so we can get extra TP off Regal Gloves/her auto-attacks, but if you're not looking for marathon fast performance, slowing her autos is a good way to keep the bubble alive longer for longer fights.

Yes to all of that, we do full debuffs. It lasts, but needs life cycle under 50%.

I don't see it lasting without capped dt hence the question. For quicker kill times it won't matter, sure.

I have an idle set specifically for Aminon to prioritize the pet.

cape is -10% MDT, regen +10
telchine braconi, telchine pigaches with Pet DT -4% Regen +3
azimuth hood +3
geomancy mitaines +3
isa belt
Dunna
bagua charm +2

BoG bubble can get low after Life Cycle, but I usually have a second bog just in case due to random deal later in the fight.

Edit: The fight is really not very dangerous for players honestly.

If you're getting RD and have a BoG bubble up then either:

-You got BoG back and can re-place that bubble
-You got Life Cycle/Dematerialize back so you can use those to keep it alive longer

Then WC guarantees you get back BoG, EA, Life Cycle, and Dematerialize

Then you have another RD.

I think with all these tools at your disposal it should be pretty easy to keep it alive.

If your fight is 20 minutes long, the bubble will time out and need to be recast no matter how much DT and pet regen you have.

Could try it and see how it goes, but I really don't anticipate Idris being necessary to keep a BoG/EA bubble alive.

The set Shadowmeld recommended has -79% pet DT, Idris has 87.5%. The difference is quite insignificant. Even if you don't wear the Telchine it's already -71% DT. Her autos should do like..30 damage? Absorbs heal for several hundred?

Players don't need DT at all, PLD can cure for 1k every 3 seconds

The set I recommended is at 89% pet MDT, not 79%

Base: 50% + 13% + 10% + 3% + 5% + 4% + 4% = 89% (capped at 87.5)

Edit: Aminon is 100% magical, so PDT doesn't matter.

Ah, I thought pet regen and pet DT were on the same augment. That's pretty crazy.

Even more reason to not give a ***about Idris then.