Shut 'em Down!

None of those things are blamed on the Bush administration.. also the NRA isn't a government agency.

I'll let Nausi post some links of Obama blaming everyone but himself for the failings of his own administration and policies.

good luck with that since Amandarius and yourself never produce links to back up the slanted claims of the extreme right and then when Nausi posts a link it tends to back up opposing side of his argument.

Carter is the best post-Presidential President we've had. He wasn't a very good president but I'd be lying if I didn't like the man as a person.

While everyone waxes nostalgic over Reagan (cause Reaganomics has been great for us) or Clinton (because deregulation was great for us), I'll take Jimmy Carter, the man who isn't afraid to speak his mind even when groupthink takes hold in the American discussion.



This picture says it all.

He hasn't blamed anything besides the financial crisis on Bush, and it was Bush's fault.
Fast and Furious - failed drug war
Solyndra - Free market capitalism
Bengazhi - tragic series of mistakes (embassy security isn't an executive concern)
Wiretapping - no excuse was given nor acceptable
IRS - again, low level people with an agenda, you can't attribute everything that happens in the US on Obama.
Obamacare - No sure what exactly you consider a scandal about ACA besides the terribad website.
NRA spying? I think you spent too much time polishing your rifle, spud.


Why bother to support any of the persecutionist babbling with facts?

You don't see the risk? Well then I'm satisfied now... hey everybody! Nausi doesn't see the risk in it so it's ok now!

/shows report supporting that this kind of activity does yield this result
/says it does it at a lower rate so that makes it ok...
/ignores possible long term effects
Hey guys you can handle a few 2.0-4.0 but as long as it doesn't hit at least a 7.0 you're fine!

Brutal: The “if you like your plan, you can keep your plan” compilation clip

Thats the best I can do right now king....

Wiretapping he did avoid and appearantly said that the the info went through and the order was given through another alphabet soup label...

for Obamacare the only thing I can think of is that they're talking about the you will be able to keep your policy thing...

I think we all know he meant NSA lol...

So when do we give Snowden Obama's Nobel prize?

Millions of quakes occur every year that are below 4.0 on the Richter scale. At some point on the scale the force is continuous, AKA a "continuous earthquake". The force grows exponentially as the scale increases. 4 is 10 times more powerful than 3 and 100 times more powerful than 2. As I said before, walking registers on the Richter scale, walking causes earthquakes.

Fracking has been around for decades too, we've seen most of the long term consequences, but there must be some other unknown we can point to as a boogeyman because we don't want people to have cheap fuel & energy now do we?

We can't afford to allow people THAT freedom and we certainly cant allow some people to PROFIT off of it (gasps) that's just criminal!!!!

Ok Nausi literally fails at reading and science harder than anyone in the history of history.

"reservoir water lubricates existing faults" "Geothermal power uses way more water than Hydraulic Fracturing"

First off, if you build heavy structures on faults, you're going to disturb them, it has nothing to do with what they built, and nothing to do with hyrdo-electric power.

Secondly, Geothermal forces a lot of water down into the Earth, but it's inside of pipes in a closed system. That's how the system produces power, you moron. Post a 4 sentence article saying literally "in a certain time period, in a seismically active area, both the frequency of earthquakes and the amount of geothermal power produced went up" There is nothing that states a single correlation or any scientific research. The articles posted supporting the fact that frakking does cause earthquakes had actual proven theory on how and why and tons of accounts of it happening in non-seismically active areas.

He'd never afford anyone he disagrees with the same understanding, that's a standard neo-con operating procedure...

Hey, you asked for proof, proof I provided, but it doesn't count because you doesn't like it I guess.

I never said fracking didn't cause earthquakes just that the argument of "Fracking causes earthquakes" as ammunition against fracking is nonsense.

Hydroelectric & geothermal power have contributed to greater seismic events than anything people have claimed fracking has, if fracking is bad because it causes earthquakes then so is hydroelectric and geothermal power.

The minimum standards is why they can't keep those plans. Posting a video of him saying it doesn't change the fact that it has been said by him and many others over and over that there is a minimum standard of coverage that plans must comply with. In fact, that's one of the portions of the bill that polled well even among conservatives.

OMG *** YA.

considering Obama has followed the status quo to a T, I've been railing on & on about how it was undeserved.

In light of this awesome fuel you have added to my fire, I will staunchly support any wild, half-cooked, or far-fetched idea your mind can conjure up today.

Well, I could post youtube videos of the president saying "it isn't my fault" but you wouldn't accept it because of something fuzzy on 1:45 that was a fly buzzing around the lens.

I do love how you continue to compare walking on the ground as a comparison to measurable quakes lol... It's cute...

I also like how you compare naturally occuring instances to those caused by the hands of men... oh well stuff happens anyways lets continue on with our scorched earth policies... Write it off as nothing...

I love when it comes down to freedom for you... such a narrow focus on that word freedom too... because yeah we don't want people to have cheap fuel or make any kind of profits... yeah Nausi... that's what everyone wants lol... /sigh The selective freedoms of the conservative base! we will pick and choose what freedoms you can or can't have and if you oppose them then you are an enemy of freedom! Cause issues for the environment? Don't care makes things a little cheaper and I get to line my pockets! Want to get married? Well if your gay well we don't want you in our club... take subsidies for our businesses? Sure! give money to those in need? Those lazy *** are just taking advantage of the system!

The concern isn't stopping people from getting cheap energy or keeping others from making a profit... it's concern for the environment around us and the quality of life...

Ditto! Atleast, Snowden earned it...

Tho I was rooting for the Paki girl to win it this year. Oh well... =/

Edit: cause I found this
Yep.

You really need to spend less time entertaining liberal conspiracies and tugging to Alex Jones and learn the meaning of words you use. PROOF, you have provided none, not because I don't like your answer, but because you didn't provide it. Anecdotal links to seismic activity without any further study in seismically active areas is proof of nothing but coincidence. Geothermal wasn't linked to anything... here's an example and I'm done with you.

"between 1950 and 2000 a study found that the number of individuals who were openly gay rose, in the same time period the number of corndogs consumed annually increased" Nausi - "Corndogs make you gay! I have proof!"

Pretty much. "This was clearly shopped!"

I've just passed it off as a big joke since they gave it to Obama for showing up.

you could, but you won't. Which is the point.

and with this analogy Jass dismantles the carbon emissions causing global warming argument. Same exact bs. A and B exist therefore B caused A is illogical.

Turn Detroit into a city of the future? Light cycles, hovercars and free wifi for everyone.

You're even less educated than Nausi, and that's astonishing...

Don't forget

Correlation ≠ causation but it is a requirement for it.

because the same old tired tactic by liberals on here is
1) losing argument, demand a source be cited
2) after source is cited attack the source and mock it
3) ignore all the information in the provided source

you mean like how you have disregarded a 20 page link of published academic studies with one sentence and a 5 minute time stamp after said link was posted?

A hand grenade explosion produces a "measurable quake" you know. You still just don't get the whole "scale" issue.

Cheap energy = scorched earth, that's the liberal mantra. We should stop drilling for oil too and burning coal cause that's bad. Everyone's lives would be so much better.


We live in the cleanest environment we've ever had in the industrial era bro. Unless you count the air we exhale as a pollutant.

you are so intolerant of other's lifestyle that you want to make laws forcing them to accept yours. Marriage is a religious thing, has been for the entire history of the country. If you want to get married, find someone who'll do it for you, just don't force others who don't share that value to adopt it. You can't legislate morality bro...

I actually don't look for government favoritism/corporatism. But Obama certainly has plenty of corporations he's tipping the scales for.


Give a man a fish you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish for himself and you feed him for a lifetime. Welfare doesn't fight poverty, we have decades of proof that it only keeps people poor.

Because everyone's quality of life would be so much better if we only just used a fraction of the energy we used now. You always fail to make that obvious connection.