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 Bahamut.Greyfawkz
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By Bahamut.Greyfawkz 2014-05-11 16:57:33
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Bahamut.Snapshot said: »
LOL Grey. EV was 3 months ago. We just did a delve 2 weeks ago and had you by 4-5%.

With better procs, you could win. Im a fan of consistency. I honestly believe you could do better w/o relic.


Yeah.. that's what i'm saying, that Marjami run I was literally R0 the whole run, pretty hard to time shots/use TP when your game sits there and does nothing but drop in %.

Anyways, I'm not sayin you're bad, you're good. Gil is easy to make.. Build an anni and put dem skills to use~
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By Bahamut.Snapshot 2014-05-11 17:04:10
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I was speaking of the run when you posted parse numbers without resetting for MB. Then I filtered it out. I Dont think we won that run you were dcing on.

I have more than enough to make a relic but there is no point right now. The moment I see SE confirm they will keep them updated, Ill jump on the bandwagon. Until then, Ill be pewing it up with a server full of lolrngs...because Dram says so :-P
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2014-05-11 17:14:02
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They already said they will keep them updated, they'll be updated every time the "level cap" is raised.
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By Bahamut.Snapshot 2014-05-11 17:15:18
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Phoenix.Dramatica said: »
Honestly, I'm half tempted to pay for you to transfer servers so you can get wrecked by real rangers and then send you back. It's really embarrassing that someone who considers themselves a "main" ranger can be so wrong. I wouldn't have a problem if you were not spreading misinformation to the public who may actually believe the ***that you're spewing.

Its elitist know it alls like yourself who said rngs have no place in Tojil and Shark runs before the new delves came out. I was top parsing on those before JR was unlocked.

Try and be less tunnel visoned. Just because you cant, doesnt mean its impossible.
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2014-05-11 17:27:05
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You've flopped from "this is the best" to "leave my poor decisions alone" in no time. See how that works?
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2014-05-11 17:27:26
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You were not top parsing against good DDs, you were top parsing against bad players. What happened to no relic RNG being top dog?
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By Bismarck.Inference 2014-05-11 17:29:19
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So in that scenario you were definitely pulling hate(or since it was Delve 1.0, in the frontline I'd hope).

A good RNG will beat a worse heavy DD. An optimal MNK should beat an optimal RNG. I've seen a Tsurumaru SAM beaten by a less than R15 Rigor MNK(back before ilvl was introduced), would be a pity if I had based all my assumptions about how DD-ing worked off of that, wouldn't it?

RNG has found it's niche in high level play for dealing safe damage, and whenever delve wants piercing damage. If those two don't apply, I'm going to come MNK and a handful of my other RNGs are probably going to come SAM and we're going to do better damage without risking our backline.

I don't care if you or any other RNG don't want to build a relic, just don't act like winning a parse while not holding back is worth the risk of jeopardizing an entire run.
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2014-05-11 17:38:41
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What was once a decent thread of good, productive conversation and information sharing has deteriorated into a relic vs non-relic pissing contest.
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By Odin.Shaggnix 2014-05-11 17:45:17
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Asura.Hotsoups said: »
Odin.Shaggnix said: »
Zoltar said: »
You need to call preshot before your /ra, pretty sure that's what everyone does

sorry to drag this back out, but just so i'm sure i understand....

macro should be

5 lines x /equip preshot piece
/ra

basicaly put the /ra as the last line but no /wait is needed?
So you should use two macros for best results. First macro should look like this:
/equip snapshot equipment
/ra <t>

Then the second macro you hit immediately after should look like:
/equip TP set

Don't use a wait command
thanks to both you and zolt for clearing this up for me. I have a separate midshot macro, just making sure no /wait is needed between preshot equips and /ra.
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By Bahamut.Drazzago 2014-05-11 17:58:28
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Going to repeat my question from 2 pages ago, seems it got overlooked. Was wondering what kind of numbers people are pulling using JR with yoichi and what sets they are using. Thanks in advance.
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By Kyler 2014-05-11 19:49:09
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Numbers higher than namas.
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By Asura.Raitoken 2014-05-11 20:31:54
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So to actually talk about something that matters instead of all this relic vs nonrelic debate, what is the most snapshot you can get on the iltuil(however you spell it) hands? NQ and +1?

Someone a page back said its the same +5(so 10%) on both but after augments is +3 the highest? Also can you get the +3 on the NQ?

I really don't feel like spending upwards of 50m just to get a +3 with wailing stones +2 if I could do it with the NQ with cheaper stones.
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2014-05-11 20:50:59
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I'm pretty sure NQ can get +3, but I've not personally seen it. That's what I'm aiming for anyways.
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By Asura.Raitoken 2014-05-11 21:08:21
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Phoenix.Dramatica said: »
I'm pretty sure NQ can get +3, but I've not personally seen it. That's what I'm aiming for anyways.

Well I know its a long shot(no pun intended) but what if the +1 can get +4 or +5? I mean the skirmish to +1 the gear came out not too long ago and I doubt many rangers rolled +2 stones over and over on them to try and see if you can get higher than +3. I know for MAB on the Hagondes set can roll higher than 25 as I've personally seen 28 MAB on gloves so it makes me wonder.
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2014-05-11 21:32:37
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To my knowledge, there is no evidence of HQ skirmish gear having augments greater than their NQ counterpart aside from the additional MDT. NQ Hagondes could already get up to 29 MAB, too. BG claims 30 but I haven't seen a screenshot or anything.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Glecent 2014-05-12 01:40:31
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Bahamut.Drazzago said: »
Going to repeat my question from 2 pages ago, seems it got overlooked. Was wondering what kind of numbers people are pulling using JR with yoichi and what sets they are using. Thanks in advance.

On what content? I can do over 11k consistently on some Marjami NMs with Prelude x2, Minuet V, Chaos Roll and Red Curry with Berserk up. Really don't want to start any gun vs. bow arguments but I match or beat the guns most runs. No saved parses and can't remember exact numbers on boss. Haven't done any AAs in a while so I can't remember numbers on those.

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Been too lazy/too busy playing other games to replace the TP neck and back. Can get up to 43 TP return on Jishnu's using that set.
 
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By Quetzalcoatl.Glecent 2014-05-12 04:19:51
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Jishnu's when Decoy Shot is up, Namas when Decoy shot is down. Hate usually isn't too much of an issue if you do that. At least not in Delve.
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By Asura.Hotsoups 2014-05-12 07:29:37
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Quetzalcoatl.Glecent said: »
Bahamut.Drazzago said: »
Going to repeat my question from 2 pages ago, seems it got overlooked. Was wondering what kind of numbers people are pulling using JR with yoichi and what sets they are using. Thanks in advance.

On what content? I can do over 11k consistently on some Marjami NMs with Prelude x2, Minuet V, Chaos Roll and Red Curry with Berserk up. Really don't want to start any gun vs. bow arguments but I match or beat the guns most runs. No saved parses and can't remember exact numbers on boss. Haven't done any AAs in a while so I can't remember numbers on those.

ItemSet 207975

ItemSet 276416

Been too lazy/too busy playing other games to replace the TP neck and back. Can get up to 43 TP return on Jishnu's using that set.
With a lucky conserve TP proc I can believe 43 TP return. But Arcadian Beret augment only works on the first hit of jishnu's. How often are you 4 hitting with this set?
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By Bismarck.Keityan 2014-05-12 07:58:07
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Asura.Hotsoups said: »
But Arcadian Beret augment only works on the first hit of jishnu's.

Hm? Are you sure about this? Granted I've been on SAM most of these last few months so haven't tried it myself but I thought it did work on all hits.
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By Asura.Backstab 2014-05-12 08:00:30
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Bismarck.Keityan said: »
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But Arcadian Beret augment only works on the first hit of jishnu's.

Hm? Are you sure about this? Granted I've been on SAM most of these last few months so haven't tried it myself but I thought it did work on all hits.

yeah should only work on the 1st hit of a multi attack WS and barrage.
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By Asura.Raitoken 2014-05-12 08:31:17
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What was the verdict on Relic body +1 vs Sylvan Body +2 in regards to which is better. I know snapshot > rapid shot but the relic body has enhances snapshot augment on it and I don't remember reading what it does and how much it helps.

Since we also don't know the rate at which the Sylvan body reduces could it possibly be better?
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By Bismarck.Inference 2014-05-12 08:37:08
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Relic body's "snapshot enhancement" adds a 1% chance of a double shot proc for each snapshot merit you have and is applied in the midshot.
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By Asura.Hotsoups 2014-05-12 09:16:56
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Bismarck.Keityan said: »
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But Arcadian Beret augment only works on the first hit of jishnu's.

Hm? Are you sure about this? Granted I've been on SAM most of these last few months so haven't tried it myself but I thought it did work on all hits.
Yeah I'm sure, tried with last stand and jishnu's when I came back to the game
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By Quetzalcoatl.Glecent 2014-05-12 11:48:05
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Asura.Hotsoups said: »
Bismarck.Keityan said: »
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But Arcadian Beret augment only works on the first hit of jishnu's.

Hm? Are you sure about this? Granted I've been on SAM most of these last few months so haven't tried it myself but I thought it did work on all hits.
Yeah I'm sure, tried with last stand and jishnu's when I came back to the game

I've been working under the assumption that it works on all hits and I seem to be getting 37-43 TP back far more often than before but not sure.

With that build I need 35.2 TP back from Jishnu's assuming the other 3 hits have recycle procs. Swapping to the tree neck would bring it down to 33.1. I was only shooting for a 5-hit before I put the beret in my Jishnu's set. I probably end up with a 4-hit at least 1/3 maybe 1/2 the time, no real numbers to back it up, just guesstimating. I don't like all the stats that I have to give up to get a 4-hit with bow, and a 5-hit has always worked well for me.

Asura.Raitoken said: »
Since we also don't know the rate at which the Sylvan body reduces could it possibly be better?

It's +5 Snapshot/-10% aiming delay.
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Sylvan_Caban_%2B2
I posted it like 3 pages ago when I talked about Sylvan Caban +2 vs. Arcadian Jerkin +1.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2014-05-12 11:56:09
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Quetzalcoatl.Glecent said: »
Asura.Hotsoups said: »
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Asura.Hotsoups said: »
But Arcadian Beret augment only works on the first hit of jishnu's.

Hm? Are you sure about this? Granted I've been on SAM most of these last few months so haven't tried it myself but I thought it did work on all hits.
Yeah I'm sure, tried with last stand and jishnu's when I came back to the game

I've been working under the assumption that it works on all hits and I seem to be getting 37-43 TP back far more often than before but not sure.

Question: Are you also using an elemental belt?
Have you noticed how shitty the TP return is if only one hit lands and conserve TP dosen't proc?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Glecent 2014-05-12 11:59:50
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
Question: Are you also using an elemental belt?
Have you noticed how shitty the TP return is if only one hit lands and conserve TP dosen't proc?

fTP for Jishnu's is applied to all hits, so yeah I'm using the elemental belt. My set is like 5 posts up. If I miss the first hit yeah I notice lol. But that would be the case regardless of anything else. Just to be clear those sets are for pretty much everything that isn't VD Ark Angels.

Edit: Oh, I see what you're asking. Do I notice if hits missed because I missed the TP from a recycle proc. No, I haven't really noticed that.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2014-05-12 12:05:43
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Its the same situation with Last Stand on gun, if both hits land and TP conserve procs along with recycle on the first hit you're looking at ridiculous TP gains. However, the problem with Last Stand like Jishnu's is on VD content you get a lot of 1hit instances, and really bad TP return.

Which is why I've come to favor Coronach exclusively since even if it misses it's still 10TP + Aftermath.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Glecent 2014-05-12 12:11:55
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I haven't been getting that many low hit Jishnu's but I haven't done AAs in a while. Just Delve where I have a 90-95% hit rate with my low accuracy set.
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By Heimdel 2014-05-12 12:20:45
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Is there any idea when the guide will be updated seeing it is falling rather behind.

Also couple questions on Orion bracers do they only have to be on when the barrage is hit or when the shot is taken? Another si which hand piece is better the Iuitl wrist or maniboz gloves with agi augment?
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