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By Carbuncle.Dagget 2014-01-23 00:06:40
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Enmity issues arn't a general problem in the normal fights (/war) but still within the realm of possibility especially without a relic (which was my point. It's not needed but /drg is 100% safer.) /nin in DM Myself op the other top ranger have pulled hate in about 20% of the fights. Relic procs happen and if you pussyfoot around in DM there's the very real possibility of timing out if one thing goes wrong since the amount of "ranger mains" isn't exactly high. Bad was more of a DPS term or not understanding how to properly time your shots and WS/JAs to maximize damage. Thanks for the jab at me anyways.
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By Carbuncle.Pwnzone 2014-01-23 01:13:55
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Some people can simply walk away after taking the first hit, but Im not one of them. I prefer to accept help when Im the one who asked for it(& Im grateful for it), but when it comes with an extra implied comment, its not so much appreciated. As a rng w/o a relic Im aware of the enmity issues involved, but because I have no problem controlling my enmity while spamming a ws like JR, it shocks me that some relic users are taking an even safer route while utilizing a relatively hateless ws(& an extra -20 enmity which is basically permanent for fights where its needed). Once again Im not familiar with DM & its workings, but using /war for AA fights (which is what you were against & what we were talking about) isnt any less safe than other subs if you aren't "bad" (seeing as controlling your enmity is part of a rng's job as well as the rest of your definition).

Edit: Mithra AA fight being an exception as the rngs will for sure get hate when the pld is charmed and /nin will save you from eating a havoc spiral before shadowbind rotation starts up
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By Carbuncle.Dagget 2014-01-23 01:45:07
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The 'Bad' rangers comment certainly wasn't directed at you. It was more of a general thing as in, if your rangers are putting out very very low DPS you should be able to clear the fight in about 25 minutes, maybe bad was an incorrect choice of wording.

/DRG is practical for the safe route since you won't time out unless you wipe. Using a Relic obviously eliminates any benefit or most of it since the only way you're pulling hate is unlucky relic procs in rapid succession or possibly with overkill up (and no decoy).

Edit: If you bring a cor to mithra you can always double fealty charm (with use of WC) to prevent the charm and enable warrior sub.
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By Carbuncle.Killkenny 2014-01-23 14:23:55
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Carbuncle.Pwnzone said: »
Some people can simply walk away after taking the first hit, but Im not one of them. I prefer to accept help when Im the one who asked for it(& Im grateful for it), but when it comes with an extra implied comment, its not so much appreciated. As a rng w/o a relic Im aware of the enmity issues involved, but because I have no problem controlling my enmity while spamming a ws like JR, it shocks me that some relic users are taking an even safer route while utilizing a relatively hateless ws(& an extra -20 enmity which is basically permanent for fights where its needed). Once again Im not familiar with DM & its workings, but using /war for AA fights (which is what you were against & what we were talking about) isnt any less safe than other subs if you aren't "bad" (seeing as controlling your enmity is part of a rng's job as well as the rest of your definition).

Edit: Mithra AA fight being an exception as the rngs will for sure get hate when the pld is charmed and /nin will save you from eating a havoc spiral before shadowbind rotation starts up

Beyond using decoy shot/camoflague when they're up, the only way you "control" enmity is to do less damage. If you're "controlling" (ie gimping your damage) your enmity then /drg can be better if it allows you to shed enough enmity to prevent you from capping without "controlling" yourself.

The reality is the dps check is so pathetically low and if subbing /drg allows a good rng to shoot with impunity then its perfectly acceptable.

2 "good" rngs can push MR fast enough to make charm happen within the duration of 2 fealtys, guarenteed.
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By Carbuncle.Pwnzone 2014-01-23 17:20:17
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@ Dagget I should have known thats not really what you meant, my fault. I've found that in most situations, /drg doesnt allow a non-relic rng to be able to go all out anyways. Maybe Ive just been lucky with being able to not ruin runs using JR.

@ Kenny Although im aware its still taking a dip in dps, by "controlling" what I usually do is simply ride out AM after a barrage/AM2 > camo. Almost everytime Ive tried going all out while /drg, its lead to lower dmg & me still being dead :/. I can see relic users being able to utilize /drg in cases, but when a single ws gets you back all the hate you just shed with a jump..it leads to even worse results than if I would have just /war'd & been careful.
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By Carbuncle.Killkenny 2014-01-23 18:06:36
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If you are still pulling hate /drg then you are doing more damage before pulling hate with it, thats not subjective or open to interpretation.
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By Lakshmi.Bladewing 2014-01-24 14:48:46
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Can someone post their ideas of the best Yoichi sets are now? Looking to see if I am in the ball park and the OP has not been updated in awhile. Thx
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By Shiva.Siviard 2014-01-24 17:47:13
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What are people's thoughts on the new Aetosaur set that just came out this week? IMHO, some of the pieces look like terrific macro pieces to WS in. Specifically, hands for Jishnu's Radiance (NQ has +35 DEX, HQ +38) and both legs and feet look awesome for Last Stand.

How would these pieces rank amongst the current standard for Jishnu's WS sets and Last Stand WS sets?
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2014-01-24 17:54:47
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aetosaur trousers or aetosaur trousers +1 Look pretty decent for STP purposes.
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By Bismarck.Inference 2014-01-24 18:39:26
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Doesn't look like anything replaces are current best options, however the pieces are pretty good replacement WS pieces until you get Orion +1/Nahtirah Pants.

HQ Comparisons to current.

Feet : -2STR, -4DEX, -1AGI, -5ACC, -16Attack. Obviously loses to Orion +1

Hands: +3DEX, -3STR, -14AGI. AGI effects both your accuracy and crit rate, so this is obviously a loss when it comes to last stand and probably Jishnu(I'm not a big Jishnu user, but just roughly going off that 1STR=1DEX as long as fSTR2 isn't capped).

Legs: -5STR, -2AGI, +13Accuracy, -30Attack compared to bee pants. Compared to Manibozho R15 STR(what I believe to be the second best choice for Jishnu) you have +1STR, +17AGI, -12DEX. These don't outperform Nahtirah, but surprisingly seem to outperform Manibozho due to the added critical hit chance(I expected losing 12 DEX to hurt A LOT more).

TL;DR : Should probably still use Orion +1 in hands/feet slot since(on my sever at least) AF119 material prices seem to be dropping, so it's not that big of an investment, or farm them. Both NQ and HQ legs seem to be a fine 2nd option if you don't have Nahtirah pants for Last Stand/Jishnu's. Legs come with a recommendation since Nahtirah are likely more difficult to come by then 119AF gear.
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By Odin.Ketsuu 2014-01-25 03:23:55
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Anyone know what the best -Enmity set would be for RNG?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Waffless 2014-01-25 06:28:13
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Sylph.Munenori said: »
As far as the actual TP set goes, this is what I've got cooking for Difficult/Very Difficult battlefields.

ItemSet 317954

(Iuitl wristbands have Racc+7, I still need to upgrade the braccae to +1, and should have Elanid Belt sometime this week)

This set offers more than simply the ranged accuracy however; the enmity reduction is nearly the gear hardcap at -44%.

Nikia has seen this set in action more than a few times over the past week, and save for the fact that I'm using Namas exclusively for anything higher than a normal battlefield - it works out great.

Provided that you're dumping your CE onto the Pld for three solid minutes when decoy shot is up, then camouflaging for white damage exclusively once it's down (a strategy I've recommended to multiple Ajjub/Eminence JR Rngs), as long as you keep a solid head on where your damage/hate is at - you "shouldn't" have any problems enmity or accuracy wise. (*Minimal support I find necessary for difficult in this set should be at least NQ Sole, Hunter's Roll, or Archer's Prelude*)

The only issue that starts to occur is when the fight is lacking damage and drags out for longer than it should. Then, even using Namas is a gamble (10k CE/VE cap says "Hi").

There is also Huani collar.
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By Zoltar 2014-01-25 16:49:55
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Or peacock charm/amulet, or Ej necklace

Drop the sylvan earring for a volley earring
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By Carbuncle.Dagget 2014-01-27 20:49:47
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With Namas AM, shouldn't have to drop the neck for Ej or PCC. assuming you have COR+BRD (VD) or one (D).

I'm not well versed with bow sets but you could also drop Beret +1 for Scout's +2(with correct buffs) if it effects Yoichi hit builds

Edit: At worst, you could always use a Hope Torque.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Waffless 2014-01-27 20:51:29
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The set I quoted and neck I referenced are purely for -emnity, although it doesn't look bad for tp.
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By Carbuncle.Dagget 2014-01-27 22:45:54
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Ah, well then for pure -enmity Kyujutsugi would beat out orion +1 and of course the Berets have equal enmity down
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By lhova 2014-01-29 12:33:19
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Hi all. I don't know how to link item sets in this post but I was hoping for the best Acc tp and JR ws sets fir eminent bow rng. I tried vd Hume today with bard cor whm pld and 2 rngs and at the 10 min mark we were only at 80%. I used bream for Acc and I think the other rng used pot. Had 4 songs and archery rolls and by eyeballing I wasn't getting enough tp back and ws enough. I probably was on a 6 hit. I just don't get it.
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By Bismarck.Inference 2014-01-29 18:45:15
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lhova said: »
Hi all. I don't know how to link item sets in this post but I was hoping for the best Acc tp and JR ws sets fir eminent bow rng. I tried vd Hume today with bard cor whm pld and 2 rngs and at the 10 min mark we were only at 80%. I used bream for Acc and I think the other rng used pot. Had 4 songs and archery rolls and by eyeballing I wasn't getting enough tp back and ws enough. I probably was on a 6 hit. I just don't get it.

Going off your TP set listed on profile :

Back: should be swapped for JSE Cape if available, Libeccio will work fine as well.

Head: Orion +1 will give you 8 accuracy more than Sylvan +2. I'm assuming Coral Orb prices are as cheap on your server as mine so this should be a pretty easy upgrade.

Main Hand: Hurlbat is a great accuracy weapon if you have the gil to buy it or farm the SKNM 20 for it.

Feet: Can be upgraded to +1 obviously, again dependent on your gil/availability.

Gloves: May get more mileage out of other options due to wasted Marksmanship skill on the Sigyn. ManibozhoR15 will have similar accuracy, and Burmete will have better accuracy, if these are available to you and you're that badly in need of accuracy after making other swaps(since Burmete offer close to nothing other than accuracy).

Lower delay bows seem much more forgiving when swapping out Scout's +2 for Orion +1 in the head slot, however Eminent TP returns are very similar to a gun so even with uncapped accuracy, if other swaps put you in the ~88% range or so it seems to still be advantageous to use Scout's +2 over an accuracy option. This obviously doesn't apply to Yoichi users.

Edit: Boost-AGI also if your WHM is not giving that to you.
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By Bismarck.Marmite 2014-01-29 19:36:45
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Just to further Inference's post, Iuitl Wristbands are a very easy to obtain piece. You only need +4 r.acc aug to get the same r.acc as Burmete with an NQ stone. Plus these have extra agi over Burmete, helping you with crits more and should be using these as part of your snapshot set.

Also if you are still desperate for ranged accuracy and JSE cape/Libeccio aren't options there is always Jaeger Mantle.

Finally, make sure the bard is giving preludes as your first 2 songs and not with Daurdabla.
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By Carbuncle.Dagget 2014-01-30 03:37:22
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Bismarck.Marmite said: »
Just to further Inference's post, Iuitl Wristbands are a very easy to obtain piece. You only need +4 r.acc aug to get the same r.acc as Burmete with an NQ stone. Plus these have extra agi over Burmete, helping you with crits more and should be using these as part of your snapshot set.

Also if you are still desperate for ranged accuracy and JSE cape/Libeccio aren't options there is always Jaeger Mantle.

Finally, make sure the bard is giving preludes as your first 2 songs and not with Daurdabla.

Also to Marcato the prelude (DDB brds shouldn't ever sing a real song with DDB)

If you're still finding AA VD slow, take some time out to practice timing your shots so you're firing non-stop. the extra 20-50(potentially more or less depending on how good/bad your mechanics are) can make the difference between losing and winning.
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By Lakshmi.Bladewing 2014-01-31 22:31:57
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Can anyone post the best set for Jishnu now?
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By Bismarck.Marmite 2014-02-01 05:41:52
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Lakshmi.Bladewing said: »
Can anyone post the best set for Jishnu now?


I'm currently using this set, but I believe x2 +4 str earrings would pull slightly ahead, I'm cheap :)

Based on tojil as a target this the best set available to me with standard ls buffs using v.shot. I normally swap novia in for pixie for AA.

Rajas ring
Uk'uxkaj cap
Flame gorget
Sylvan earring
Pixie earring
Orion Jerkin +1
Orion Bracers +1
Rancorous Mantle
Flame belt
Nahtirah Trousers
Orion socks +1
Pyrosoul ring

Just bare in mind the set could change, depending on your target and buffs.
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By Jadey 2014-02-01 15:54:25
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Is Sylvan +2 hat still the best for precast, or should you sub in Orion +1 for the Rapid Shot?
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By Bahamut.Greyfawkz 2014-02-01 15:56:21
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Jadey said: »
Is Sylvan +2 hat still the best for precast, or should you sub in Orion +1 for the Rapid Shot?

Pretty sure consensus is Orion +1

On a side note, with Orion +1 hat, I wonder if using relic +2 body would be better...
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By Bismarck.Marmite 2014-02-01 17:50:48
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Bismarck.Inference said: »
Phoenix.Terasa said: »
anyone got updated gear sets for rng that has new af pieces that they can let me see.

PreShot:
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2 pages back.
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By Bismarck.Meibourne 2014-02-02 20:57:27
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is Hexed jacket NQ/HQ still best for Namas?
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By Carbuncle.Dagget 2014-02-02 21:49:06
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Bahamut.Greyfawkz said: »
Jadey said: »
Is Sylvan +2 hat still the best for precast, or should you sub in Orion +1 for the Rapid Shot?

Pretty sure consensus is Orion +1

On a side note, with Orion +1 hat, I wonder if using relic +2 body would be better...

I believe with courser's roll Sylvan +2 wins, but outside of that Orion.
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2014-02-02 21:54:50
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how
Carbuncle.Dagget said: »
Bahamut.Greyfawkz said: »
Jadey said: »
Is Sylvan +2 hat still the best for precast, or should you sub in Orion +1 for the Rapid Shot?

Pretty sure consensus is Orion +1

On a side note, with Orion +1 hat, I wonder if using relic +2 body would be better...

I believe with courser's roll Sylvan +2 wins, but outside of that Orion.

can you explain that to me?
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2014-02-02 22:37:03
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Bismarck.Snprphnx said: »
how
Carbuncle.Dagget said: »
Bahamut.Greyfawkz said: »
Jadey said: »
Is Sylvan +2 hat still the best for precast, or should you sub in Orion +1 for the Rapid Shot?

Pretty sure consensus is Orion +1

On a side note, with Orion +1 hat, I wonder if using relic +2 body would be better...

I believe with courser's roll Sylvan +2 wins, but outside of that Orion.

can you explain that to me?


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