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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-01-18 20:04:42
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decoy shot
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By Bahamut.Snapshot 2014-01-18 20:18:40
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You don't need /drg for non relic. You can even try /war if you're pro at decoy and camo. Just top parsed with Echidnas on VD hume with a relic gun rng in pt and only pulled hate once.
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By Carbuncle.Pwnzone 2014-01-18 20:19:17
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I always use JR for HM VD(as well as others) & have never pulled hate doing 2k ws's /war as well as extra dmg coming from AM. Just have to be smart with using decoy/Camo like others have said & pulling hate in AAVD fights should almost never be a concern, regardless of relic or not. Any rng my group gets(have a few to choose from, not pick-ups) uses /war with no issues. If we have enough rngs, I like to main heal as sch which makes hate even less of an issue.

Edit: I def did pull too much hate against D & normal AA fights when i tried some earlier. If you mess around & join a PU group for lower than VD, use your relic or DIE :P. Made some edits above as well.
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By Carbuncle.Dagget 2014-01-18 21:53:02
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I've personally pulled hate with decoy and Relic and have seen others do it as well. I was just saying /drg would be far and away the most foolproof way of winning these fights. getting 20 merits just to wipe or have a possibility 20+ minute fight instead of just subbing drg and getting at most a 16 minute fight (if you're under geared/buffed) is a better alternative.
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By Zoltar 2014-01-19 17:02:01
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Its easy to pull hate even when using Decoy Shot. The worst AA (imo) with using Decoy Shot is EV. You can get 1-shotted if you get too close. Ppl in my run said on EV to use DS around 15yalms which seemed to work ok.
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By Zoltar 2014-01-19 17:06:30
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FWIW, almost all runs I've done tell Rangers to /nin. While /drg is a decent alternative /nin keeps you alive and the PLD can regain hate
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By Phoenix.Suji 2014-01-19 17:10:28
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Carbuncle.Dagget said: »
I've personally pulled hate with decoy and Relic and have seen others do it as well.
This really depends on your PLD, unless you're talking about a lucky Barrage relic proc. I have yet to see a relic RNG pull hate from our PLD and we never use Camouflage either. Maybe yours isn't taking advantage of /BLU and /DRK when they are appropriate.
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By Asura.Hoshiku 2014-01-19 17:51:12
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It's very rare to pull hate w/ relic. The only times I've seen it are barrage procs or shooting without decoy from 100% while PLD is doing something else.
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By Asura.Aikchan 2014-01-19 18:30:51
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Carbuncle.Dagget said: »
I've personally pulled hate with decoy and Relic and have seen others do it as well. I was just saying /drg would be far and away the most foolproof way of winning these fights. getting 20 merits just to wipe or have a possibility 20+ minute fight instead of just subbing drg and getting at most a 16 minute fight (if you're under geared/buffed) is a better alternative.

Not hard to pull hate with relic(gun wise), the question is what WS is the rng using, probably Last Stand(like 1 Coronach and LS while AM is up, eventually will pull hate).

for AA's I normally use /SAM... Like the JA's, and w/ it have 4 hit build, "fully buffed" Coronach do 2-2.2k dmg, for me LS do 200-300sh more but don't think is worth the risk
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By Carbuncle.Dagget 2014-01-19 23:21:12
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The post was more directed at people talking about bringing non-relic rangers to AA. subbing DRG (or ninja as pointed out) is going to be much more beneficial to them. i brought up the point of a relic ranger pulling hate to prove even with the largest amount of enmity reduction possible, you can still pull hate, so it is safer to sub DRG(or nin) if you don't have a relic.
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By Refia1 2014-01-22 10:21:30
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Should I use Illapa w/Last stand or Eminent Bow w/Jishnu if I'm a non relic RNG?
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By Bahamut.Snapshot 2014-01-22 10:39:12
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Echidna = shoot for tp. Eminent otherwise.
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By Sylph.Talon 2014-01-22 11:30:23
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Does someone have an updated set for Eagle Eye Shot (119 Gun)? It was my understanding that EES sets should be focused on stacking accuracy and critical hit rate+
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By Asura.Hoshiku 2014-01-22 11:37:32
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Don't think you have to stack accuracy for EES. I usually stack str and ratk although the crit rate is a good idea.
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By Carbuncle.Pwnzone 2014-01-22 13:04:06
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Does anyone have a good method/setup to overcome AA mithra on VD? Im not talking DMII where you have a number of ways readily available to handle the accuracy problem, but the single party fight. Im aware my weapon is lacking in the ranged accuracy department, but even with a full TP set dedicated to it I still have a problem parsing at a satisfactory level, when it comes to accuracy, without SV preludes. Im curious if my best bet would be to simply focus more on finishing my relic gun(not sure if the relic users in my group have the same degree of difficulty when it comes to hitting) or if investing in better gear would work for now. I usually use this for mithra vd, helpful criticism is appreciated

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By Bismarck.Llewelyn 2014-01-22 13:16:09
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Is your BRD using Marcato on Archer's Prelude? Do you have another source of accuracy (GEO or COR)?
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2014-01-22 13:32:39
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Carbuncle.Pwnzone said: »
Does anyone have a good method/setup to overcome AA mithra on VD? Im not talking DMII where you have a number of ways readily available to handle the accuracy problem, but the single party fight. Im aware my weapon is lacking in the ranged accuracy department, but even with a full TP set dedicated to it I still have a problem parsing at a satisfactory level, when it comes to accuracy, without SV preludes. Im curious if my best bet would be to simply focus more on finishing my relic gun(not sure if the relic users in my group have the same degree of difficulty when it comes to hitting) or if investing in better gear would work for now. I usually use this for mithra vd, helpful criticism is appreciated

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First I have to ask is the Gandiva 119? If not Eminent would be a sound investment.

Second, what food are you eating? Pot +1 or Squid/Sole +1 would be best for VD MR.

Would suggest upgrading the legs to +1 the extra AGI helps your Range Acc+, and Crit hit rate on RNG. If you can; get a Lutian Cape that would be ideal. Also, look into an Ej necklace if you can on your server, it might be cheaper to buy the materials and have it crafted.

You'd be surprised at how the little +5 Rng Acc upgrades to your current build will make a world of difference.
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2014-01-22 13:35:08
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Squid+1/bream NQ, make sure you're getting double preludes and hunter's roll. Also feel bad for making a 99 gandiva instead of yoichi/anni :)
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By Carbuncle.Dagget 2014-01-22 13:41:56
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Carbuncle.Pwnzone said: »
Does anyone have a good method/setup to overcome AA mithra on VD? Im not talking DMII where you have a number of ways readily available to handle the accuracy problem, but the single party fight. Im aware my weapon is lacking in the ranged accuracy department, but even with a full TP set dedicated to it I still have a problem parsing at a satisfactory level, when it comes to accuracy, without SV preludes. Im curious if my best bet would be to simply focus more on finishing my relic gun(not sure if the relic users in my group have the same degree of difficulty when it comes to hitting) or if investing in better gear would work for now. I usually use this for mithra vd, helpful criticism is appreciated

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ItemSet 318866

This with double preludes hunters roll and sushi +1 caps on AA MR.

Easiest upgrades I can see are a second Hajduk, Ej Necklace, Luitan cape and Thurandaut pants +1 (or HQ orion)
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-01-22 13:45:11
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They need to release new ranged earrings, those ones are getting old <.<
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2014-01-22 13:57:08
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Carbuncle.Dagget said: »
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This with double preludes hunters roll and sushi +1 caps on AA MR.

Easiest upgrades I can see are a second Hajduk, Ej Necklace, Luitan cape and Thurandaut pants +1 (or HQ orion)
Is Faith Torque worth it for the couple points of Ranged Attack? Seems that using Ej Necklace and swapping back to Paqichikaji Ring (for the -Enmity) would be a little more profitable.

Also, I thought I read recently that Scout's Beret +2 is losing its allure when compared to Orion Beret +1? I might be completely out of my mind, though.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2014-01-22 13:59:52
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On MR VD I use Orion Beret +1. On everything else I still use it. That 5 extra TP adds up.
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By Carbuncle.Dagget 2014-01-22 14:38:55
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The faith torque is because Ej necklace or rockfin tooths are impossible to find on my server. so i value 6-7 ratk over 3 acc. The enmity down is secondary to the accuracy imo. Also Annihilator AM makes it all moot.

I use the Scout's Beret on everything. The additional WS frequency with proper buffs should outdo the stat vomit on the Beret+1. I haven't actually spreadsheet'd it so don't take my word as fact.
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By Carbuncle.Pwnzone 2014-01-22 15:43:23
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Bismarck.Llewelyn said: »
Is your BRD using Marcato on Archer's Prelude? Do you have another source of accuracy (GEO or COR)?

Usual setup is rngx3 pld brd whm & Im not sure if the brd uses Marcato ill have to ask for it next time. Usually sole/squid +1 for food.

Phoenix.Dramatica said: »
Squid+1/bream NQ, make sure you're getting double preludes and hunter's roll. Also feel bad for making a 99 gandiva instead of yoichi/anni :)

no cor usually. I dont feel bad for it & I wouldnt take it back either. Get over it.

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The faith torque is because Ej necklace or rockfin tooths are impossible to find on my server. so i value 6-7 ratk over 3 acc. The enmity down is secondary to the accuracy imo. Also Annihilator AM makes it all moot.

I use the Scout's Beret on everything. The additional WS frequency with proper buffs should outdo the stat vomit on the Beret+1. I haven't actually spreadsheet'd it so don't take my word as fact.

I agree about Scout's. When accuracy isnt such a concern, always tp in scouts, Orion beret is just a ws piece. I never really looked at the craft mats for Ej but I guess that would be an option as well as Thurandaut +1. Have you done mithra VD outside of DMII or just in DMII with full buffs?

Edit: And yes i119 Gandiva to who asked. Would someone with a 90Gandiva even make it into the bc without getting kicked? Lol
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By Carbuncle.Dagget 2014-01-22 15:58:43
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Both DM and Normal. You don't really gain extra acc from a second cor or brd, just Attack snapshot and STP. Without Hunters roll and double preudes Mithra is just difficult to hit and you can't really find the gear to make up the difference. Orion Braccae +1 will outdo Thurandaut +1 but I didn't include them. Also as Lwelelyn said, make sure to marcato your prelude, and since you should be wildcarding around when rolls/buffs wear off, your cor should have 2-3 chances to hit a decent Hunter's Roll. Maybe snag some Bream Sushi +1 (1% higher ACC gain) if it still is just terrible.

The DPS check is really low for the Mithra (and any AA really) so thankfully you should still be able to win even with poor accuracy (80-85%).

Edit: Not having a COR is going to kill your RACC without SV as its about 40-65 acc. Between that and Wildcard it might be more beneficial to bring a COR instead of the third ranger.
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By Carbuncle.Pwnzone 2014-01-22 16:30:06
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Carbuncle.Dagget said: »
Edit: Not having a COR is going to kill your RACC without SV as its about 40-65 acc. Between that and Wildcard it might be more beneficial to bring a COR instead of the third ranger.

Yeah this is probably what we'll have to try again. First time with tried with a cor it was a mule who just did rolls & stood there :/. By full buffs i meant hunters/preludes/feint(Im guessing TnB brings 1) & perhaps even a geo(eva-, etc.) in DMII. I havent tried it so Im not familiar with setups.
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By Carbuncle.Dagget 2014-01-22 16:47:50
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With bad rangers it shouldn't take any more than 25 minutes for MR. With a perfect run I could see sub 10 minutes
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2014-01-22 17:16:37
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Carbuncle.Dagget said: »
I use the Scout's Beret on everything. The additional WS frequency with proper buffs should outdo the stat vomit on the Beret+1. I haven't actually spreadsheet'd it so don't take my word as fact.

Scout's Beret +2 on VD MR will not get the same results that Orion+1 or Sylvan Gapette +2 will give you. The +5 TP on the recycle proc isn't worth much when you're whiffing. MR VD requires Rng acc or a lot AGI on damn near every piece to hit consistently.
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By Carbuncle.Dagget 2014-01-22 17:35:10
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I have capped or near capped acc on VD MR unless buffs fall.
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By Carbuncle.Pwnzone 2014-01-22 22:51:50
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Carbuncle.Dagget said: »
With bad rangers it shouldn't take any more than 25 minutes for MR. With a perfect run I could see sub 10 minutes

Having enmity problems with a relic w/o /war & can still toss around terms like bad rangers? I toss my hat off to you.
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