To be clear I'm not making a definitive statement about the power of VS. I'm saying that "my" VS aren't consistent, and it's likely a "me" issue.
Edit: Yes on the empy body
Edit2: For the record, here is my current set for VS.
ItemSet 383538
I just haven't pulled the trigger on Ryuo Tekko +1. I'm not sure if my issue is not enough crit rate, or what, but VS spikes wildly for me.
I have all Ken set, all Mpaca (not fully augmented), all Tatenashi, if you have recommendations. I even have the abujuration for Ryuo, just haven't spent the gil yet.
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Your VS set looks good. Well not the NQ neck maybe and Ryuo+1 Hands would be a decent upgrade, but in general it looks like a respectable set.
Truth is Vsmite isn't exactely the most "reliable" WS. It's good enough during Impetus especially after the TP transfer thing but it's clearly not the WS to consider as your main if you use any weapon but Verethragna R15.
What's your Cape aug btw? Outside of Impetus Crit+10 wins, during Impetus DA+10 wins.
They're not too far off from each other either way, as far as I remember.
NQ Neck instead should be noticeably inferior to other options. Maybe if you're at capped attack and want to exploit the PDL, but even then I'm not sure the PDL on the NQ will be enough to outbalance other options, would need to theck on the spreadsheet.
Truth is Vsmite isn't exactely the most "reliable" WS. It's good enough during Impetus especially after the TP transfer thing but it's clearly not the WS to consider as your main if you use any weapon but Verethragna R15.
What's your Cape aug btw? Outside of Impetus Crit+10 wins, during Impetus DA+10 wins.
They're not too far off from each other either way, as far as I remember.
NQ Neck instead should be noticeably inferior to other options. Maybe if you're at capped attack and want to exploit the PDL, but even then I'm not sure the PDL on the NQ will be enough to outbalance other options, would need to theck on the spreadsheet.
Smite isn't about doing 60k ws, it's about doing the skillchain(s).
2 1500tp RF is going to do less total damage in the same uptime as shijin > smite light > smite double light. In theory, if said mob lives long enough etc. That's equal to 5 ws's instead of the 2 raging fists.
5/6 steps being even better if you can do em.
Skillchain damage is essentially never accounted for (savage blading cors and bards)
2 1500tp RF is going to do less total damage in the same uptime as shijin > smite light > smite double light. In theory, if said mob lives long enough etc. That's equal to 5 ws's instead of the 2 raging fists.
5/6 steps being even better if you can do em.
Skillchain damage is essentially never accounted for (savage blading cors and bards)
Have to make radiance with godhands if you want to do double light. It’s a huge pain in the butt.
Honestly I love doing skillchains, it’s the funnest way to play. I’d Judy love vs to get more consistent. It just seems like for every 30k VS I get at least one 15k one
Honestly I love doing skillchains, it’s the funnest way to play. I’d Judy love vs to get more consistent. It just seems like for every 30k VS I get at least one 15k one
Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: »
To be clear I'm not making a definitive statement about the power of VS. I'm saying that "my" VS aren't consistent, and it's likely a "me" issue.
Fotia neck(compared to yours, +2 when applicable,) fotia belt, schere earring, ryuo tekko +1 A are all easy upgrades.
Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: »
Have to make radiance with godhands if you want to do double light. It’s a huge pain in the butt.
DK > Spiral > Spiral without Impetus and DK > Spiral > Smite during.
Asura.Eiryl said: »
Skillchain damage is essentially never accounted for (savage blading cors and bards)
I mean more in a general sense. It's always mash the button as fast as possible. SC damage isn't counted in your deeps on scoreboard so it doesn't count.
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: »
To be clear I'm not making a definitive statement about the power of VS. I'm saying that "my" VS aren't consistent, and it's likely a "me" issue.
Fotia neck(compared to yours, +2 when applicable,) fotia belt, schere earring, ryuo tekko +1 A are all easy upgrades.
Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: »
Have to make radiance with godhands if you want to do double light. It’s a huge pain in the butt.
DK > Spiral > Spiral without Impetus and DK > Spiral > Smite during.
Are you saying Fotia belt is better than Moonbow+1? You'd be the first person I've seen claim that I think, if so.
For Shijin specifically or for any other H2H weaponskill?
Most H2H WS, lower TP values for the ones that scale.
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Most H2H WS, lower TP values for the ones that scale.
I'm sorry, but arent you specifically talking about your pov and how you judge gear? In the sense that you cut low and high extremes of DPS chart and that is why Fotia wins. Basically in easier to understand words, Fotia provides very stable bonus to DPS, while Moonbow bonus is based partially on chance (% triple attack). Also aren't your sims usually with automatically capped fSTR, which would lower Moonbow value? Not to mention attack, accuracy and subtle blow.
If you look at normal avg damage based on ALL distribution and let Moonbow affect fSTR, then I don't see Fotia beating Moonbow for Vsmite, Tornado, Raging and Howling(?) (unless maybe in some subobtimal use like Raging at 1000TP without Moonshade and Godhands).
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I mean, Lowen alluded to that in the first question to Austar. The general thought I've seen in the mnk community has been moonbow never comes off... ever. It's interesting to see someone disrupting that.
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SimonSes said: »
but arent you specifically talking about your pov and how you judge gear
SimonSes said: »
Also aren't your sims usually with automatically capped fSTR, which would lower Moonbow value
SimonSes said: »
If you look at normal avg damage based on ALL distribution and let Moonbow affect fSTR, then I don't see Fotia beating Moonbow for Vsmite, Tornado, Raging and Howling(?) (unless maybe in some subobtimal use like Raging at 1000TP without Moonshade and Godhands).
Just so I'm clear, you're saying you take 101 samples, order them from lowest to highest, and use sample 51 as your baseline. That is my understanding of median. Is that correct? (All hypothetical numbers, they are likely much larger)
I'm not gonna discuss which way is better, because it's pointless. I just wanted you to clarify your methodology.
So Moonbow has higher avg, Fotia has higher median right?
Is your median taken from all results or just central distribution without extremum? Because your response to my first quote and your last sentence still makes it a little unclear.
Maybe post your Vsmite sims results on enemy with 350 vit and 300 AGI?
Also I still assume you are talking about scenario where attack is capped with both, so +20 attack from Moonbow doesn't matter. Acc is capped, so 7acc more on Moonbow doesnt matter. (Subtle blow and Damage taken are imo worth more than whatever super marginal difference in median you are getting, but it's not a part of DPS, so lets leave it).
So Moonbow has higher avg, Fotia has higher median right?
Is your median taken from all results or just central distribution without extremum? Because your response to my first quote and your last sentence still makes it a little unclear.
Maybe post your Vsmite sims results on enemy with 350 vit and 300 AGI?
Also I still assume you are talking about scenario where attack is capped with both, so +20 attack from Moonbow doesn't matter. Acc is capped, so 7acc more on Moonbow doesnt matter. (Subtle blow and Damage taken are imo worth more than whatever super marginal difference in median you are getting, but it's not a part of DPS, so lets leave it).
Depends on the results, but that is what a median is.
SimonSes said: »
I'm not gonna discuss which way is better, because it's pointless. I just wanted you to clarify your methodology.
SimonSes said: »
So Moonbow has higher avg, Fotia has higher median right?
Is your median taken from all results or just central distribution without extremum? Because your response to my first quote and your last sentence still makes it a little unclear.
Is your median taken from all results or just central distribution without extremum? Because your response to my first quote and your last sentence still makes it a little unclear.
SimonSes said: »
(Subtle blow and Damage taken are imo worth more than whatever super marginal difference in median you are getting, but it's not a part of DPS, so lets leave it)
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Most H2H WS, lower TP values for the ones that scale.
Circling back to this a bit. Since I'm using Godhands, most of my WS sets have minimum effective TP of 1950 even if I somehow manage to WS at exactly 1000. What is the threshold for moonbow generally on scaling ones like RF?
It's already at 2.1875 @1000 with Mpaca + Moonshade + Godhands.
Edit:
For clarification it's
Fotia => Victory Smite, Shijin Spiral all the way, Raging, Howling, TK, DK at low TP
Moonbow => RF, HF, TK, DK at high TP
Is that basically it?
SimonSes said: »
Maybe post your Vsmite sims results on enemy with 350 vit and 300 AGI?
Fotia:
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47952, 47955, 47956, 47969, 47982, 47984, 47988, 47989, 47992, 47995, 47997,
48003, 48010, 48013, 48014, 48015, 48017, 48020, 48024, 48026, 48030, 48032,
48035, 48039, 48040, 48042, 48048, 48051, 48056, 48058, 48065, 48069, 48071,
48072, 48073, 48074, 48075, 48080, 48089, 48094, 48100, 48108, 48112, 48119,
48120, 48121, 48128, 48137, 48150, 48154, 48159, 48159, 48164, 48172, 48175,
48175, 48176, 48185, 48189, 48193, 48200, 48201, 48202, 48211, 48212, 48217,
48223, 48224, 48225, 48225, 48225, 48226, 48229, 48230, 48230, 48236, 48237,
48238, 48242, 48242, 48243, 48243, 48245, 48249, 48259, 48259, 48260, 48261,
48266, 48274, 48281, 48281, 48283, 48283, 48289, 48293, 48314, 48314, 48319,
48324, 48326, 48328, 48333, 48337, 48337, 48344, 48344, 48350, 48353, 48353,
48359, 48360, 48364, 48370, 48373, 48380, 48393, 48394, 48400, 48406, 48411,
48414, 48418, 48421, 48423, 48425, 48436, 48444, 48450, 48452, 48454, 48460,
48463, 48484, 48488, 48497, 48501, 48508, 48519, 48521, 48531, 48533, 48541,
48561, 48565, 48583, 48590, 48596, 48631, 48632, 48653, 48680, 48685, 48734,
48753, 48762, 48765, 48803, 48872, 48957, 49822, 50274, 51095, 51127, 51130,
51299, 51354, 51487, 51901, 52097, 52354, 53293, 53718, 54206, 54814, 55018,
55307, 55384, 55483, 55560, 55566, 55598, 55673, 55695, 55697, 55753, 55764,
55765, 55767, 55773, 55794, 55809, 55811, 55821, 55825, 55840, 55864, 55864,
55871, 55874, 55881, 55892, 55895, 55907, 55918, 55923, 55930, 55933, 55949,
55949, 55960, 56014, 56015, 56031, 56033, 56047, 56050, 56052, 56053, 56064,
56068, 56078, 56101, 56110, 56132, 56138, 56176, 56181, 56191, 56196, 56229,
56239, 56240, 56244, 56253, 56256, 56263, 56277, 56284, 56290, 56290, 56291,
56293, 56303, 56306, 56306, 56336, 56343, 56345, 56369, 56388, 56394, 56394,
56412, 56418, 56441, 56449, 56455, 56456, 56469, 56480, 56503, 56524, 56541,
56546, 56550, 56563, 56594, 56697, 56737, 56747, 59736, 59910, 60003, 61763,
61791, 63325, 63567, 63687, 63723, 63750, 63760, 63770, 63857, 63883, 63917,
63934, 63961, 63962, 63984, 63984, 64013, 64014, 64044, 64115, 64126, 64140,
64151, 64169, 64176, 64180, 64184, 64185, 64189, 64200, 64204, 64245, 64253,
64256, 64276, 64280, 64297, 64321, 64331, 64373, 64376, 64384, 64392, 64431,
64462, 64483, 64526, 64559, 64627, 64719, 64720, 64759, 64821, 64895]
Average 40931.17
Median 40133.5
IQ1, IQ3 32124.75 48242.0Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Most H2H WS, lower TP values for the ones that scale.
Circling back to this a bit. Since I'm using Godhands, most of my WS sets have minimum effective TP of 1950 even if I somehow manage to WS at exactly 1000. What is the threshold for moonbow generally on scaling ones like RF?
It's already at 2.1875 @1000 with Mpaca + Moonshade + Godhands.
Edit:
For clarification it's
Fotia => Victory Smite, Shijin Spiral all the way, Raging, Howling, TK, DK at low TP
Moonbow => RF, HF, TK, DK at high TP
Is that basically it?
What is IQ1 and IQ2? Is that Meidian / 2 and 3/2 Median values?
Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: »
What is IQ1 and IQ2? Is that Meidian / 2 and 3/2 Median values?
Raging Fists:
ItemSet 383545
Cape is 20 DEX, 30 acc, 20 atk, 10 DA
Mpaca is R10ish on both, but can assume it will eventually be R25
Tatenashi R15
ItemSet 383545
Cape is 20 DEX, 30 acc, 20 atk, 10 DA
Mpaca is R10ish on both, but can assume it will eventually be R25
Tatenashi R15
Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: »
Raging Fists:
ItemSet 383545
Cape is 20 DEX, 30 acc, 20 atk, 10 DA
Mpaca is R10ish on both, but can assume it will eventually be R25
Tatenashi R15
ItemSet 383545
Cape is 20 DEX, 30 acc, 20 atk, 10 DA
Mpaca is R10ish on both, but can assume it will eventually be R25
Tatenashi R15
Any other recommended changes? Honestly, I've kind of just put mnk together without referencing anything. So, I'm not even sure I'm doing everything right. Might just post all my WS sets.
Like I just use the exact same set for Howling Fist. I kind of thought about putting some WSD in there, but it's so noticeable when I TA on that i'm scared to.
Like I just use the exact same set for Howling Fist. I kind of thought about putting some WSD in there, but it's so noticeable when I TA on that i'm scared to.
SimonSes said: »
Asura.Eiryl said: »
Raise your hand if you knew that post was coming
Raise both if you know what the next 60 posts will be, sing along if you know the words.
Raise both if you know what the next 60 posts will be, sing along if you know the words.
Raise your hand if you knew Eiryl whining was coming right after my post.
Raise your hand if you think Eiryl's passive aggressive whining posts are useless and off-topic.
Eiryl, I thought you blocked Simon? Did you un-block him just to do the whole "i told you so" thing? Just wondering, no drama from me /devilmoonface
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