IiPunch - Monk Guide

This is probably accurate, altough I'm afraid it doesn't capture the full extent of the set's beauty.
It's probably a bit better than that and it's gonna synergize really good with Vsmite if MNK will ever get a boost to it.

This set's main concern is lack of attack btw, aside that it looks splendid.

TPing in gear with, in addition to the decent DD stats, magic evasion comparable to Inyanga +1 would be nice for fights with potentially annoying ailments. At the very least, the whole set is pretty good as a "magic evasion hybrid" build.

Okay, Tornado Kick has no detectable attack boost and the 2000 TP fTP anchorpoint was a little off. 1000TP anchorpoint and mods are fine. I didn't test the 3000 TP anchorpoint.

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Talk:Tornado_Kick

Guess we can delete our Tornado Kick sets then.

Think the best damage potential arguably still come from Raging Fists at max buffs, Howling Fists slightly below that, and Vsmite for SC purposes or just something to spam at 1000TP.

Not sure if Godhands make Raging Fists better than Vsmite to spam at 1000 TP.
Thing is... Raging Fists has really shitty SC properties.

I don't think so, but it's close enough that it might depend on your WS gear and situation. With high (but uncapped) Attack, capped Acc, and uncapped dDEX:

VS (15488 damage)

Raging (13737 damage)

The difference between them narrows at capped ratio, but I still get VS ahead.

Are those Spreadsheet numbers or parsed/average numbers?
I haven't used the spreadsheet in a while but I've been doing CP and WKRs a lot lately on MNK, and Raging/Howling are always ahead of Vsmite, which sometimes manages to get above during Impetus, but sometimes not even during that.

Like for instance earlier today I was at Apex Frogs/Jagils in Woh Gates map 1.
Buffs were really lacking: Chaos Roll (from /COR, but with a DRK in pt), Crimson Howl, Crystalline Blessing, Ifrit's DA Aura.
Not sure if the WHM was casting dia2 on each target.

With these buffs my best WS was Howling Fist. It averaged at ~7k according to Scoreboard.
Raging Fists was below that, but still beter than Vsmite which averaged at 3900ish. Lowest I've seen was 1900ish and highest spike ~11k
My acc was ~94%. Think I actually was capped and I'm under 95% because of a few swings in wrongset/without food.

My gear is pretty average, but then again it is so on every WS set. Actually Vsmite is probably my best set I'd dare to say.



Edit:
Possibly Crystalline Blessing + Godhands + Moonshade skewed damage towards Howling Fist and Raging Fists, which have far better TP scaling than Vsmite? Bet without all that TP bonus things would've been different at 1000TP

Nah I noticed that HF was doing good on crabs too compared to others, same 7k~ avg give or take. However I did get a few cool 14k A. fury off haha.

HF beating VS in a low buff situation makes sense.

RF beating VS at 1000 TP doesn't make much sense.

Even with Godhands + Crystal Blessing + Moonshade?
Or WAR's enhanced Warcry.

Maybe with all of those things it makes sense, but lacking Crystal Blessing or a Savagery Warcry I don't really see it happening.

Someone please petition SE to change Rao +1's set bonus to critical hit damage. :(

If they make monk great again I'll consider coming back to FFXI.

unless they give mnk astral conduit, i dont see much help at this point .

Because changing a set like 2% of the total population owns would do wonders for the balance of the job, I know, right? :P

And even then, it would hardly change things even if everybody owned it.



It's like Azagarth said, it's not gonna happen to see monk "great" again. But monk "viable"? Totally possible, still keeping my fingers crossed.

Oh, it wouldn't fix the job. But it would fix the set bonus... It is just so lame. Lustratio, Argosy and Rao are all built as no magic evasion/no hp/ws sets. But I don't see Lustratio with a set bonus of dual wield or Argosy with haste... :/

Byrth and Ramz, I wanted to touch base about Victory Smite sets. Are the OPs still up-to-date. They seem to be, but the set posted 11ish posts above differs a bit. Is your set still a work-in-progress, Byrth, or is there more to it? I'm just trying to rewrap my head around the job. I haven't used it very much since 2015. I realize not much has changed, but I'm always open to learn more. Thanks!

MNK could be great again with a couple of tweeks.
Fix martial arts traits and change Victory Smite. That's it. nothing else needed.

"adjustments to certain weaponskills"

THE DREAM IS ALIVE !

2 weeks to get them shattered again !

If they allow FTP to transfer on VSmite now we could be talking

IF they adjust WS for H2H, Stringing Pummel, Ascetic's Fury and Shijin Spiral are the really ***ones. It makes zero sense that Shijin Spiral DOESN'T transfer http://Ftp. There are only three other Merit WS that don't, Apex Arrow, Tachi: Shoha and Shattersoul are the others. Apex is a single hit, Shoha is a damage varies and Shattersoul has one of the best additional effects of any WS. Shijin Spiral? Shitty *** plague that doesn't matter at all.

But anyway, yeah, Ftp transfer on V.Smite would be pretty dope.

I would bet that the WS adjustment will be to fix Tachi: Ageha and the like.

I gimped PUP to 1200, was considering it for MNK next, but guess I can wait. MNK can actually use my Adhemar though, so it will surely do much better than PUP...

/enter

Shouldn't this thread title be called "iiWiff"?

/leaves

Oh SE being SE.

I've already got MNK to 2100 and probably won't ever touch it again, yet I really hope SE fixs H2H to make it competitive with other DDs for content. More job diversity is usually a good thing in a MMO.

Need I remind you guys every update?

While I would welcome a Shijin Spiral TP transfer fix with open arms, I don't think that alone would "fix" Monk.
Last I tried on the spreadsheet, even with TP transfer property, Shijin Spiral still wasn't really anything stellar.

DONT RUIN OUR HOPES AND DREAMS - MNK MASTERRACE IS LITERALLY AT OUR DOORSTEP NOW ! HEED MY WORDS HEATHENS

that's because Shijin fTP is 1.0625 with additional hits of 1. A five hit Shijin with fTP transfer isn't even a 5% increase.

They've seen the Coolest Weapon Skill thread and are going to copy-paste Resolution's workings to Asuran Fists so we can flip again!

Taru already flip on Asuran