For The Shinies! A Guide For Thief

Is the Tauret/Gleti or Gleti/Ternion both at R0 Gletis? Aeneas is useless for Rudras?

I would change to:
Yetshila+1
Gleti's hands
Sailfi Belt R15
Suppanomimi

It's probably a good idea to upgrade the empyrean feet when you get a chance because when the +3 pieces come out we're definitely going to want that as our treasure hunter option. Currently we have just treasure Hunter +4 on the relic hands and empyrean feet both, so we have to pair one or the other with the perfect lucky egg to hit the TH +8 gear cap. The empyrean feet do have -10DT on them and quite a bit of accuracy and attack so there is merit to using them over the relic gloves, but the real killer should come with the empyrean +3. If the +3 feet get treasure hunter +5, which is a very likely situation, then that one piece alone would cap treasure hunter by itself. That frees up the ammo slot to put the orb or w/e else back in, and that's on top of the 10% DT.

So I'm pleasantly surprised with the feet as well. The direction they're going is very much to my liking.

Wouldn't dropping Reiki for Suppa put us below the DW cap?

It would but additional stats would beat swinging 1.5% slower

Yes, it would. And the exponential gains of those last few percentages to hit the delay cap are actually quite large. The difference between 78% delay reduction and 80% delay reduction isn't worth persuing the critical hit white damage build anymore in my opinion. By switching the adhemar bonnet +1 to skulker's bonnet +2 we lose out on adhemar's crit damage, and by switching Odr earring to skulker's earring +2 we lose out on 10% crit rate. At that point the previous iteration of the "critical hit white damage focused" squishy build breaks down. I can't agree with Simon on this one. We should transition back to a more traditional tp setup with store TP +10 on the cape and the orb in the ammo slot, and keep reiki yotai. That means a store TP build.

And let's be honest here... it's not like our total damage will suffer from these changes. Rudra's storm is still the largest chunk of our overall damage anyway, and rudra's scales heavily with more tp. So any loss of white damage from moving away from the crit oriented setup is made up for with faster TP gain and bigger rudras numbers. The build has 45% triple attack damage to boot (relic feet, hetatori ring, JSE neck and JSE cape), and with 67% triple attack rate.... yeah. You have a different synergy for white damage now leaning heavier on the triple attack side, but it's still there. You don't wanna give up adhemar hands or reiki yotai. The tradeoffs simon proposed are not worth it.

I'm with Melphy if I had to guess how it would come out, but someone can do the maths to fight it out

What are people using these days for TP sets with 50% PDT/21% MDT these days?

Agreed (with Melph).
Any time I've attempted to build anything on tp that wasn't focused on getting to Rudras asap my overall dps failed.

Not to mention, beyond the DW cap, Reiki is also carrying STP+4, a fair amount of accuracy, and even a little enm-. It's such a great piece I have a tough time thinking we've moved past it.

Math may prove otherwise, though.

Its 35%DW vs 37%DW, which is not 78% to 80% at all.
Its 79.6875% vs 80%. 0.3125% difference, which taking exponential gains into account, is 1.5% slower swinging.

How about I just remove the daggers from the build and leave the rest of it as is. I just included twashtar and gleti's knife because it's a personal template and those are the weapons I use. The armor set itself is the main point of the item set, and those stay the same regardless of weapon choice.

Both sets have similar dps, but the one proposed by me is a little less glassy and has indeed more white damage with less tp gain.
It also assumes Crit rate back, which I forgot to mention and ofc AM3 up.

Tbh Skulker's legs wouldnt be that bad here too. Assuming set bonus with 2 pieces is 2%, then it would be only 1.5%dps behind, while providing 12%DT on legs (That would be 29%PDT with Gleti's gloves and 10%PDT cape). It will also provide FUN from seeing stacked AM3 with set bonus, which can result in some ridiculous 10k+ crits

Cento offhand will provide significantly higher DPS, if you can cap accuracy in TP set.

I added it as a running set for that very reason. Having a set I can use with good white damage and DT is always useful. Prefer the full glass cannon TP set, but, yeah. DeadDD = NoDD.

Oshasha's Treatise or ??? (currently running seething bomblet +1) for Thf savage blade kit?

R20 Nyame everywhere

Still gonna be bomblet, can't match 11~15 STR with any other ammo im aware of

Nah Oshasha is marginally better even than 15STR, but Seething might be slightly better still for uncapped because of more attack. For capped attack Crepuscular by far.

My poor THF has gone without love for too long. Is there an established hybrid set for Vajra users?

malignance set from lilith

That's not helpful.

What is not helpful? Malignance would the hybrid set to use, how much you want to use will depend on much MEVA/DT you want in your set.

also malignance is the most used set when am is up on thf and dnc. Well more dnc but for thf is also nice with the store tp on it, physical dam+, dt. And dead easy to obtain. But it will take you time to get the whole set. Got most of my pieces soloing lilith on ve on my thf. And best thing its free.

I find this comment triggering.

LOL yep. And the time spent grinding away on hundreds of Lilith fights is decidedly NOT "free". That's hours upon hours of work where you could be doing something that generates gil. Still a great set and absolutely worth getting, but not quite "easy and free".

Gleti is a nice alternative for a lot of hybrid builds though. Tons of defense (~25%+ per piece over Malignance), lots of PDT- (and you can probably cap MDT- with Shell and other gear), BiS MDB, respectable Meva. And paired with solid offensive stats acc/atk/crit/PDL+ and some bonus regain.

Lilith is the only thing I'll run THF on anymore. I got my 5/5 after around 350 runs but will help LS mates if they need the TH.

Minor nitpick, the PDL on Malignance is basically a latent stat that will almost never be utilized on THF, especially for attack starved jobs. Malignance has no natural attack, so it's going to be that much harder to cap attack in a tp or hybrid set, even with buffs (unless we are talking Frailty or the mob is so low it doesn't matter).

If any dagger WS were going to get mileage out of it, it'd be mandalic due to its large atk boost natively