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[Archive] Bushido - The Way of The Samurai (A Guide)
Shiva.Tedril said: » Cerberus.Taint said: » You need AF3+2 legs in your build. Pretty much the first piece in any SAM TP set. This is what I use in Delve. Assumes Samurai Roll and level 5 Ionis for a 4-hit: ItemSet 308272 No Samurai Roll and level 5 Ionis 4-hit (Swapping in Usu +1 Head and Feet also works in this): ItemSet 308268 Bismarck.Llewelyn said: » Shiva.Tedril said: » Cerberus.Taint said: » You need AF3+2 legs in your build. Pretty much the first piece in any SAM TP set. This is what I use in Delve. Assumes Samurai Roll and level 5 Ionis for a 4-hit: ItemSet 308272 No Samurai Roll and level 5 Ionis 4-hit (Swapping in Usu +1 Head and Feet also works in this): ItemSet 308268 0. It's the 10 Save TP that can change builds. (Unless you meant Save TP by STP?)
Gotcha
Edit: I guess my set could be without Ionis, so outside SoA 4hit or given that they didn't have that unlocked I guess? And yours wins otherwise. However I think str and attack and such is higher in my set but xhit wins in yours with tekko. Looking for a set for TP and Shoha.
No Delve, Burrows, Legion or Abjuration gear from Voidwatch please. Everything else is fine including Skirmish II, Salvage II, and NNI. Current GK is Shichishito +1. Would have used some of the posts in the past page but all the sets posted are blank now. those sets would be outdated now, they were being used prior to the skirmish update. also the save tp on tsurumaru may make your needs in sets different from tsu sets.
What's your thoughts on this tp set? Still gotta get back to drop and grip but is there anything that would beat this in full buff delve runs? Belt I could change.
ItemSet 202893 And one more thing. I should have asked with the tp set but would this be good shoha or is phorcys gonna win out?
ItemSet 260905 Angierus said: » ItemSet 307757 Here's what I'm currently using, I don't need the sTP from Unkai +2 and I cap out acc on everything in Delve, so from my point of view there is no real gain in having the 10% increase to zanshin, I'm sure I'll be corrected on that but any reason to get out of that ugly as sin body is good enough for me. IIRC (I don't play sam) the advantage of the body is that hasso-up sam-main gets a zanshin proc rate for even attacks that hit. The body is essentially (10% zanshin/4) 2.5% chance to swing again that comes last in the multi-attack order. The returns from your body may indeed trump a 2.5% DA rate. I just wanted to point out that hasso-up the body has advantages regardless of accuracy. Sorry if i misunderstood!
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the thing with Zanshin is da procs first and been told the higher your da the more your zanshin deminishes. So with fighter's roll Usu wins. But I'm just going on what I've always been told.
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Shiva.Brunwulf said: » And one more thing. I should have asked with the tp set but would this be good shoha or is phorcys gonna win out? ItemSet 260905 Couple other things also: Quauhpilli Helm, Atheling Mantle, Cheruski Needle, Brutal/Moonshade, Ganesha's Mala.
K. Gotta nab a Q helm. Thanks again.
With the updates to REM's coming and them unlocking the Emp ws. Do you think 99 masa will even be a able to compete with Fudo being unlocked for all weapons?
it will compete anytime you can keep aftermath up almost regardless of stats. that's obviously anytime you are using fudo.
No way is Masamune keeping up with Tsurumaru if Fudo is unlocked for other weapons. 35TP return allowing for a 4hit without SAM Roll is just HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. Even with full time AM you won't keep up with Tsuru.
@Brunwulf I've been using this with Ionis and no SAM roll for TP ItemSet 311151 (Tenryu Domaru +1, Atheling Mantle and swapping Oneiros for K'ayres would be optimal) and this for WS ItemSet 271383 Shiva.Brunwulf said: » What's your thoughts on this tp set? Still gotta get back to drop and grip but is there anything that would beat this in full buff delve runs? Belt I could change. ItemSet 202893 ItemSet 311465 A more attack-oriented set if needed: ItemSet 311464 Both are 4-hits that rely on Samurai Roll. If Samurai Roll is down for whatever reason: Capped attack: ItemSet 311461 Uncapped attack: ItemSet 311460 Also 4-hits. DA+2 on all Otronif. Sadly Shiva isn't a 4 roll world so I never see SAM roll.
People using the DPS spread sheet should know that it doesn't do Zanhasso correctly, which is a pretty big deal for SAM.
I've been backing into WS > Zanhasso round > WS builds with good parse success. Edit: and *** you guys with DA2 on more then one piece of skirmish gear.
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Did you ever mention it to motenten or does he know/acknowledge it ?
Eh, I'm performing really well with the sets listed. I'm having trouble seeing 2.5% Zanhasso + 0-17 attack + 5 TP bonus (assuming belt is swapped to Goading; doesn't look like anything else changes in my SAM Roll sets) beating 4% TA 1% QA. It's not like you can't Zanhasso if you aren't using the body; I get a lot of 1 hit > 100%+ TP rounds as well, whether it be Zanhasso or TA/QA procs (even if TA/QA procs late, it still becomes a huge TP bonus along with the 2-3 swing auto attack damage).
I can see it *maybe* being better for an Attack + No SAM Roll set. Why use the body (Empy) if it doesn't change your hit build? It shouldn't, and the more DA you have makes gearing for Zanhasso pointless. Correct me if I'm wrong. I'd just rather be sitting at 100+tp before my animation for shoha ends than have zan proc sometimes.
Shiva.Brunwulf said: » Why use the body (Empy) if it doesn't change your hit build? However, rereading your post, perhaps I misinterpreted what you were trying to say. yeah you'd get roughly 4 extra tp per shoha. But the speed at which you shoha wouldn't change. Until attack capped attack would beat out the minor if at all present boost to shoha. So many situational sets lol. ^^
Bismarck.Llewelyn said: » Eh, I'm performing really well with the sets listed. I'm having trouble seeing 2.5% Zanhasso + 0-17 attack + 5 TP bonus (assuming belt is swapped to Goading; doesn't look like anything else changes in my SAM Roll sets) beating 4% TA 1% QA. It's not like you can't Zanhasso if you aren't using the body; I get a lot of 1 hit > 100%+ TP rounds as well, whether it be Zanhasso or TA/QA procs (even if TA/QA procs late, it still becomes a huge TP bonus along with the 2-3 swing auto attack damage). I can see it *maybe* being better for an Attack + No SAM Roll set. With your DA augment luck you should be rocking Otro body over Porthos either way. Shiva.Brunwulf said: » Why use the body (Empy) if it doesn't change your hit build? It shouldn't, and the more DA you have makes gearing for Zanhasso pointless. Correct me if I'm wrong. I'd just rather be sitting at 100+tp before my animation for shoha ends than have zan proc sometimes. If you don't have a solid Fighters roll a Zanshin build will pull ahead. Zanshin procs give 70+ TP return. You can take off all your QTDA/Zanshin gear and still be spamming WSs, SAM gains TP faster then you or I can react. Unless you are using a spellcast/bot WS trigger you will be over TPing on SAM with capped haste. I always have fighters on as SAM is why it does more good to have another body in that slot. I see where you're coming from. I think at this point we're all arguing the same point. Hurray SAM!!!!
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