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Same music as above, sub scholar this time for Windstorm and use the only available mab dagger
Nitpicking, but Aeolian Edge isn't natively available to COR or SCH, so you can't use it COR/SCH.
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Quote: Same music as above, sub scholar this time for Windstorm and use the only available mab dagger Nitpicking, but Aeolian Edge isn't natively available to COR or SCH, so you can't use it COR/SCH. Derp, totally didn't think about that. Corrected!
I don't know if this has been brought up, and if it has and I missed it, I apologize. But, from what I've read about Irridescence, would subbing scholar in a situation without a scholar to give you firestorm, be a better option than subbing blm? Using the obi and HQ prism staff of course.
By a very small amount yes, not accounting for the delay added by having to cast a storm on yourself.
I'm trippin', it's actually a pretty big difference.
1.15 * 1.25 * 1.38 = 1.98375 1.15 * 1.62 = 1.863 If it does math out better, this makes me happy because I hate depending on other random people to keep your firestorm up.
Er,
Self Storm 1.15 * 1.25 * 1.35 = 1.940625 - Twilight Cape 1.15 * 1.2 * 1.38 = 1.9044 - Forban Someone giving you storm 1.15 * 1.25 * 1.59 = 2.285625 - Twilight Cape 1.15 * 1.2 * 1.62 = 2.2356 - Forban Can't wear twilight cape. :(
Triffle that's the same question I just asked above lol.
Conclusion: /SCH is superior to /BLM by a very decent margin if no one is giving you storms, on top of being a far more utilitarian subjob.
The staff is a pretty huge damage boost for COR either way. /BLM 182 + 1215 = 1397 1397 * 1.15 = 1606 1766 * 1.62 = 2601 /SCH 182 + 1215 = 1397 1397 * 1.15 = 1606 1606 * 1.2 = 1927 1766 * 1.38 = 2659 ...and they should but COR on Twilight Cape. That ***is pretty beast. Well of course /blm while receiving a firestorm from a party member is the best. Depends if its reliably available or not though.
Tbh... it enhances SCH's support status as much as DD. Accession and -na spells, can Accession most storm spells on the party and whatnot, not too bad.
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If I haven't gotten Army yet, but plan on playing COR with just Last Stand 5/5, and I just so happened wanted to level a Magian Trial Gun, would it probably be the best scenario to get this one? +60Delay +100TP That would do more damage than the AH Gun StoertebekerLV99 rite? cuz I can get ahold of a moonshade tpbonus 25 earring that's 125tp bonus... and i'd just need to come upw ith 75% more tp bonus and I could shoot at 100%tp for 300tp worth... that's a good idea no? So, how can i come up with another 75tp bonus =/ I'll eventually get Army, and of course having to level a magian trial takes a while... but..... x_x mag trial seems lesser of two evils right this moment anyway, but maybe it's dumb i dunno anyway thx muh bruthazzzz It's a decent placeholder, certainly one of the best bets for Last Stand till you get an Arma.
Also, time to cap sch sub~ Valefor.Prothescar said: » Conclusion: /SCH is superior to /BLM by a very decent margin if no one is giving you storms, on top of being a far more utilitarian subjob. The staff is a pretty huge damage boost for COR either way. /BLM 182 + 1215 = 1397 1397 * 1.15 = 1606 1766 * 1.62 = 2601 /SCH 182 + 1215 = 1397 1397 * 1.15 = 1606 1606 * 1.2 = 1927 1766 * 1.38 = 2659 Pure dmg wise(not counting utility), wouldn't it still depend on the gear you use, since /SCH has 2 less AGI than /BLM, 10 less AGI than /BLU and you will lose 7 AGI on the waist if you're using AGI+7 belt. My base AGI(I'm a hume) with /BLU is 111, /SCH is 101, /BLM is 103(I think, I don't have /BLM, only remember /BLM has 3 more AGI than /RDM, and I have 100 on /RDM) Assuming my enemy has 100 INT, I don't have anyone to storm me, so it's stormless /BLM /BLU v.s self-storm /SCH. My WF set looks like this (not perfect set, I know D;, but maybe close), No food/atmacite/roll. So 117 AGI and 32 MAB in gear. /BLM: 220 AGI 56 MAB total. (5.5x213)+240=1411 1411x1.56=2201 2201x1.15=2531 /SCH: Change the AGI belt to Obi in gear set, so 110 AGI from gear. 211 AGI, 32 MAB total. (5.5x208)+222=1366 1366x1.32=1803 1803x1.15=2073 2073x1.2=2487 /BLU 228 AGI, 52 MAB total. (5.5x217)+256=1449 1449x1.52=2202 2202x1.15=2532 Unless I calculate anything wrong/over look something, the number I got is /BLU and /BLM>/SCH Ragnarok.Afania said: » Pure dmg wise(not counting utility), wouldn't it still depend on the gear you use, since /SCH has 2 less AGI than /BLM, 10 less AGI than /BLU and you will lose 7 AGI on the waist if you're using AGI+7 belt. My base AGI(I'm a hume) with /BLU is 111, /SCH is 101, /BLM is 103(I think, I don't have /BLM, only remember /BLM has 3 more AGI than /RDM, and I have 100 on /RDM) Assuming my enemy has 100 INT, I don't have anyone to storm me, so it's stormless /BLM /BLU v.s self-storm /SCH. My WF set looks like this (not perfect set, I know D;, but maybe close), No food/atmacite/roll. So 117 AGI and 32 MAB in gear. /BLM: 220 AGI 56 MAB total. (5.5x213)+240=1411 1411x1.56=2201 2201x1.15=2531 /SCH: Change the AGI belt to Obi in gear set, so 110 AGI from gear. 211 AGI, 32 MAB total. (5.5x208)+222=1366 1366x1.32=1803 1803x1.15=2073 2073x1.2=2487 /BLU 228 AGI, 52 MAB total. (5.5x217)+256=1449 1449x1.52=2202 2202x1.15=2532 Unless I calculate anything wrong/over look something, the number I got is /BLU and /BLM>/SCH Edit: Forget about what I said.... I added food/atmacite/roll, it seems that /SCH beats /BLM under MAB buff. Assuming using MAB drink/No.5 wizards, regain+destruction atmacite Food:+5 AGI Bravers:+15 AGI Regain atmacite:+5 AGI Ascetics:+25 MAB No.5 wizards:+10 MAB Destruction atmacite:+15 MAB /BLM: 245 AGI 106 MAB (5.5x225)+290=1527 1527x2.06x1.15=3617 /SCH:236 AGI 82 MAB (5.5x221)+272=1487 1487x1.82x1.15x1.2=3734 It seems in VW or Abyssea /SCH wins with MAB buffs, outside without MAB buff probably won't. So /SCH all the way in VW with proper atmacite/temps if nobody is going to firestorm. There's also Klimaform to increase accuracy I guess(or is it main only?), but all in all I wouldn't consider sch much. No mab, only useful spells are -na and raise, doesn't even have Cure4, so the "utility" is pretty much nowhere. Also if you consider that situations where you don't have a mage in party are extremely rare, Firestorm is not even an issue.
So yeah, good to have it leveled just in case, but overall negligible. Edit: I don't mean to say it's useless, but let's not overstimate either. Silly ppl, if ur gonna do it, do it right. Cor/Blm with Brd/Sch or Sch/Rdm mule. Etude x2 + Firestorm + Obi/Firestorm w/Relic feet +2 aug.
10k WF in Abyssea w/o temps. with Brd/Sch mule. Quote: Food:+5 AGI Bravers:+15 AGI Regain atmacite:+5 AGI Ascetics:+25 MAB No.5 wizards:+10 MAB Destruction atmacite:+15 MAB /BLM: 245 AGI 106 MAB (5.5x225)+290=1527 1527x2.06x1.15=3617 Those #'s seem about right for VW as /Blm, but I don't use Destruction and it's 11's or gtfo! No Cor should be happy with just lucky #'s imo. DjenadiofAsura said: » Silly ppl, if ur gonna do it, do it right. Cor/Blm with Brd/Sch or Sch/Rdm mule. Etude x2 + Firestorm + Obi/Firestorm w/Relic feet +2 aug. 10k WF in Abyssea w/o temps. with Brd/Sch mule. ur so megaboss! i'll just avoid asking the obligatory question of what the target is, since this is aby rite? target = all the things I remember reading thru this thread on how all the vets were "hitting 10k dmg avg," so I can take what you say at face value and think twice about it I shall not. People bring cor to aby outside of brews?
Anyway Thaumas nails are better than Commodore bottes+2 in an ideal set. And worry not, I always ask both Firestorm and Etudes. About Wizard I admit I never bother, but that's cause I'm not given the time before fights. wth does aug on relic +2 feet do for WF in abys mr.doinitrite?
Carbuncle.Pwnzone said: » wth does aug on relic +2 feet do for WF in abys mr.doinitrite? Well ofc the MAB will help WF lol.....but like i said what does the aug do for WF since thats what he was pointing out. As Seha said should be using either af3 +2 for the fire shot bonus or perferably Thaumas feet for dmg.
Carbuncle.Pwnzone said: » Well ofc the MAB will help WF lol.....but like i said what does the aug do for WF since thats what he was pointing out. As Seha said should be using either af3 +2 for the fire shot bonus or perferably Thaumas feet for dmg. Well seems we got some interesting ppl here, first off I rarely brew on Cor, so that 10k is normal ws on mobs/nm's not with brew. But when I did brew its maxed dmg (99999) (think I missed a 9).
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