Random Question Thread (FFXI Related)

This list is absolutely spot on, imho.

I'd love to further expand on these two though.
I think Maletaru maybe hasn't been generous enough.
Tauret is not that bad at all and it's an excellent piercing option (BiS?) for jobs who don't normally main Dagger. Like NIN or RDM (altough arguably for RDM there's Prime dagger now).
Is it worse than R15 Twashtar and Mythic for DNC and THF? I'd dare to say so, but not really THAT far behind. Furthermore it's arguably better than those two for Aeolian Edge and better in niche situations where you need to avoid Debuffs (Alexander comes to mind).
DNC in particular needs to play a bit different with Tauret, spamming Building Flourish rather than Climactic.
Can also produce pretty nice numbers in situations where you can overcap att and benefit from PDL.
Now this isn't different from what Maletaru said, in all honesty, but I feel like Tauret is better than one may think from his description.

Similar situation for Gokotai. He defined it a "nice Pre-RMEA", and that's totally true, but Gokotai is closer to RMEA than even Tauret. And honestly lolRMEA for NIN. Mythic sucks, Empy is mostly meh, Relic and Aeonic are okaysh.

Altough for NIN the situation is strange, given how Naegling is often better than Katana RMEAs, and this is quite sad but it's a different story lol

My thought process with these comparisons was: if you have access to all the weapons in the game, will you use this thing?

I have all the dagger and katana REMA and tbh I find myself using Tauret/Gokotai almost never. Heishi is just better than Gokotai for anything other than regain cheese. For physical damage basically any REMA will beat Tauret, and tbh for Aeolian Edge it's probably Gandring, if not I'm fairly certain (not tested) that the 500 TP bonus from Aeneas would out-do the MAB/stats from Tauret. I think it's pretty much just an Evisceration dagger...but I could be wrong.

Don't get me wrong, any of these could be an alright holdover until you get REMA, but in my experience these two are not going to see much use outside of cheesy situations (Crit proccing/Regain) if you can use other weapons. I'd even go so far as to say that a Nagi with AM3 up almost certainly outparses Gokotai.

Of course, this only applies to THF, DNC, BRD, RDM with REMA options. For COR, RNG, NIN etc. Tauret has plenty of use.

Tauret is still useful for occasions where raw number of crits matters for certain gimmicks, like Odyssey or some Ambuscades.

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I'm more or less aligned with you, but a couple points:

Yes, Aeneas mainhand beats Tauret for Aeolian. IIRC, Malevolence x2 does too, for jobs that can use it (sorry DNC, COR).

On rare occasion I have found niche uses for Tauret though, even with a Twashtar and Aeneas on my THF DNC. Back when I did a lot of Lilith on VE/E, Tauret and Evisceration spam was the way to go for good white damage, solid WS, and no darkness SCs. I could also see it having a good place for something like this month's Ambuscade to break mobs' auras with crit hits.


Uh oh, Sechs knows that talking smack about Nagi summons me...

Nagi shits all over Gokotai for DPS. I was once an uncultured person too, thinking Nagi was a lot worse than it really is. But it's not nearly as bad as people think.

Nagi is pretty damn good for Hybrid WS with an offhand TP Bonus katana: Mythic AM3 procs on WS, super fast TP gain, and Macc+40 on base stats (that no other REMA katanas have, and another MAcc+30 from R15 augments only on Nagi and Heishi) means it can put out strong numbers where hybrids are effective. If you can maintain AM3 it can outdo Heishi for that purpose.

Blade: Kamu blows without Nagi, but with Nagi it becomes a serviceable WS. With Nagi I don't even mind using Kamu for reasons other than applying aftermath. It's a great rapid SC option for simple Kamu->Shun light self-SCs and then tacking on a couple MB ninjutsu nukes (where the Macc+70 is awfully nice too).

Nagi also got a lot better than it used to be once NIN got some of our modern gear options. Malignance with STP and DT-/Meva is a perfect combo for a DD/tanking NIN doing decent DPS while also making use out of the Enmity+40 for holding hate (better DPS than the pure enmity generation of Fudo Masamune C path). And of course, Nyame B for MAB/WSD reeeeealy pumps up the hybrid WS that Nagi does well with (and Heishi too, to be fair).

Also it's by far the coolest looking katana and one of the most stylish weapons in the game, and that's really what we're after, right?

I made my Nagi due to a mix of completionism and almost a joke as "the worst REMA", but I can admit that I was wrong about that. I legitimately like it a lot now, and use it at least as often these days as I use Kikoku or Heishi.

Anyway, as for Gokotai, for a NIN with any REMA I think Gokotai's only use is for purely nuking situations where you're forced to the backline to toss out nukes/MBs. Dual wielding Gokotai and Tauret or Naegling is a good option for that.

Gokotai is also a heck of a lot worse value than Tauret, because no other jobs can use it. Tauret gets some utility out of being a good piercing/crit option for jobs other than THF DNC BRD. Gokotai has no value for anyone but NIN, and mostly that's for non-REMA NINs wanting a katana mainhand. Even for those non-REMA NINs, they'd probably be better off mainhanding a Naegling (I mean, even fully decked out NINs are often better off using a Naegling too, and the gap is even wider between Naegling and a non-REMA katana).

Maybe if you have a ton of downtime and can get idle TP with Gokotai it could be a little better in such a niche use case. But I haven't really run into any such use case myself.

But... it looks like a plain sickle.

Xoanon is also the best option for cataclysm on jobs that have no better staves and could use the magic stats (or you don't have the better staves but somehow got a pulse extra), very good for aoe dyna W1/2 into 3 where you'd use something else for the magic setup most likely. It is a bit underrated for this but still useful.

For BST, Doli and Decimation spam is THE best axe physical damage axe (excluding upgraded Prime). Beats Guttler and Tri-Edge, the two big physical focused REMAs.

Doli is very good on WAR too, but WAR has so many strong non-axe options that it's far less important to WAR.

Shattersoul WS description is duration varies with TP, but bgwiki listed it as 120 seconds on all 1k,2k,3k tp. what's the deal?

Maybe more of a musing than a question, but you know what would be fairly easy for SE to do, that would be both a player-friendly move AND would motivate people to engage in & keep participating in the Odyssey segment grind? Rotate which lustreless item (scale/hide/wing) drops in which of Sheol A/B/C on a monthly basis. Hell, that would probably encourage some people to do some Unity NMs too, by having items to upgrade some of the still quite useful gear.

Just a thought as I drop some wings on the ground because the inventory space is more valuable than waiting to get to an NPC. And also because I think it would especially be helpful to returnees and newer-comers and some of the more casual FFXI-er crowd, of whom I've seen a lot lately.

Alternatively:
They could raise the segments in A and B so they're worth a damn, because the only people bringing hides and scales into the economy are RMT / extra account mules.

Not only RMT who farm A/B. It's actually more profitable than C even if soloing. I think their idea here was that you split your progress between unity rewards and Ody rewards. Also, C is a good source of EP that lots of people would miss.

While I think it uses massive amount of scales/hides to upgrade a gear, I dont think its that expensive to get a high level armor piece.

It would be better to cut in half the necessary rank points, or double the amount of drops.

I think A/B serves a purpose of allowing less geared parties to do it. For example, people with only ambuscade/reisen gear could simply put together a party and do it. Given the limitation of tags given per day, it would be a smart choice to just form a party with whatever, and do A/B instead of soloing.

But problem is, people dont think like that. For majority, its better to not to do odyssey instead of doing a lower tier and farming the max amount they possibly can.

Despite this being the smallest route to gear upgrade: farm enough segs to allow T3/T4 sheol gaol, then you get near top gear with small price. Still we see returning people wearing bad gear for long time instead they puttiing their damn head and farm at least 1k seg that must be better than no seg at all. Its a mentality of "either legend or bust" that hinders player progress. Those same players that flies like a moth with their bad gear to farm C only to hinder entire party potential. Funny how common I used to read complains of people doing bad runs of seg runs. Still, they still insist in doing C.

Finally, if I want a fast solution to odyssey A/B, I would simply allow player to receive KI moglophone A, moglophone B, moglophone C. Then, people could do daily at least one of each tier.

I farm exclusively A because the gil is massively better than C, our entire static already has way more segments than we could ever hope to spend, and the segments really aren't that far off. We get 7.5k per run vs the 10k or so in C.

This is something people should actually consider, unless you're in a race to be 'done' with odyssey ASAP, it's only around 2.5m segments to cap every piece of armor in odyssey at r30, considerably less if you skip the garbage weapons and actually fight the NMs. That's like a year of daily runs in A.

So I'm having something I don't understand happening in Battlemod.
In the filters file I turned to "true" all the lines and I mean ALL the lines concerning Damage, Melee and Misses, and it worked to filter the damage I deal to Shinryu, but I'm still receiving lines on the damages and misses Shinryu does to me.

Why is that happening? I don't understand D:

Isnt true actually supposed to show the dmg?

At least the shim in ashita uses false to prevent it from appearing

Melee attacks from bulky models are often sent as TP move packets too, may want to check those settings.

What are some of the best contenders for best Great Katana outside of REMAs?

I look in the BG Wiki Guide and the SAM guide here and see a few options, but a lot of them seem kinda meh.

I'm currently using an Augmented Nenekirimaru with WSD+6% atk/acc +10 and base damage +34.

What Great Katanas would be a better option for a practically job pointless SAM?

Makes sense but there is no specific setting for TP moves. Just for "Readies" and I want to see those, I just don't want to see the damage they deal xD

Shining One is best non-REMA weapon for Sam.

GKT specifically.. Norifusa +1? There aren't any good ones.

Yeah, that's why I asked. I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something.

As far as Alluvion Skirmish weapons go though, Nenekirimaru is pretty good.

The 484 delay gives me a 4 hit without Zanshin, and I literally get TP so fast that I three step double Light almost effortlessly without JAs.

So I guess it's just work on a Shining One inbetween bouts of working on Kogarasumaru

I would go for Su4/Su5 to make a high subtle blow set, improving your surviability, while working in a doji in the meantime.

For placeholder, i would go with whatever easier from unity or domain points unity is available

For what it's worth don't even bother putting that much work into koga lol.

Even if you exclusively played sam I still would advise against it.

Haven't tried koga yet myself but you may just want to work on masa instead and use shinning one until you get it.

Shinning one while a great weapon does not give a good feel for how the job plays.

If you or anyone else for that matter are looking to get a feel for the job and how it will play, or if the time investment for a rema is worth it. The ilvl soboro is fun to play with and will give you exaggerated performace at the cost of some dmg, the oddessy one is a decent taste for the job.

If you're playing Sam just do a Masa. Koga is a waste of time to be frank.

I'll bite on this one with the information available on wiki and some extrapolated. Wiki says Halos worth 50~410 depending on floor, UNM's are 80~200 depending on floor. Izzat to be spent on Chest instead of Junctions based on your criteria of "we have more segments than we can hope to spend". Will assume Chests cost 5, Coffers cost 7.
Floor 1: 7 families (70 * 5 = 350 segs) + halo (50) + junction (80) = 480 segs. 24 Izzat = 3 chests + 1 coffer (225 segs) with 2 Izzat carry over.
Floor 2: 9 families (90 * 7 = 630) + junction (100) = 730 segs. 20 Izzat = 3 chests (150) with 5 Izzat carry over.
Floor 3 = 6 families (60 * 9 = 540) + halo (135) + junction (120) = 795 segs. 22 Izzat earned + 5 Izzat = 3 Chests + 1 coffer (225 segs) with 5 Izzat carried over.
Floor 4 = 6 families (60 * 11 = 660) + Junction (140) = 800 segs. 17 Izzat = 3 Chests (150) with 2 Izzat carried over.
Floor 5 = 5 families (50 * 13 = 650) + halo (220) + junction (160) = 1030 Segs. 22 Izzat = 3 Chests + 1 Coffer (225 segs) with none leftover.
Floor 6 = 4 families (40 * 15 = 600) + junction (180) = 780. 1 Chest opened (50) with 3 Izzat carried over.
Floor 7 = 6 families (60 * 17 = 1020) + halo (410) + junction (200) = 1630. 25 Izzat = 2 chests + 2 coffers (250)

Presuming I didnt make any mistakes (I cant remember if floor 6 is 4 or 5 families), the total here is 7520 segments. The only thing not factored in is the ~25% bonus from the end conflux, so you need 6k base. If you jump right to floor 3 and full clear everything, that will net you 5k segments and 84 Izzat for chests/coffers which should easily cover the remaining 1k.

Full clearing 3 to 7 is 270 fodder, 18 halo + beastmen, 5 UNM's, about 300 mobs. 300 mobs that you cant AoE (cruel joke notwithstanding) in 30 minutes is doable, but you have to factor in all the *** running that Sheol A has. All of a sudden becomes a bit of a tall order.

still relevant mythics imo (chime in please, this isn't an assertion and more of a question) -

1. Carnwenhan
2. Liberator ?
3. Burtgang
4. Tizona
5. Death Penalty
6. Gastraphetes
7. Nirvana
8. Yagrush

Ones that haven't aged well
1. Glanzfaust
2. Conqueror
3. Murgleise
4. Kogarasumaru

Ehh, meh. FFXI in general is technically a waste of time. If I wanted to do a Masa, I'd take the 85 one I made back in 2012 up on my alt.

The Kogarasu Maru has roots in history, and I want to make Mythic for Samurai for sentimental reasons. I don't need to be the most chad SAM in the game. For me, it's always been a job that I put my personal tastes on, as I actually far prefer other jobs even though back to back to back skillchains from a single weapon and person are very very cool.

In fact though, I'm more about personal taste than optimization. Someone get that pic of the fork with the nearly useless tines.