Tachi: Shoha
Tachi: Shoha
That's HIS argument actually. The reason you should use it is because it increases your overall average.
Yeah I get that much but personally I think the surprise spike DMG is well worth using it... also, I love your Avatar lol
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Probably a dumb question, but would calmecac trousers trump haidate +2 for ws (if you don't need the stp)?
They might (haven't checked), but at that point you'd be better off using Avant +1 than either of the above.
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I was just playing with the math some.
If ACC is uncapped (94.1%acc is the break even point), then Elemtal belt pulls ahead.
If ACC is uncapped (94.1%acc is the break even point), then Elemtal belt pulls ahead.
Kin37ix said: »
Conserve TP procs return ~70 TP after 100 weaponskils.
Windbuffet procs return ~14 TP after 100 weaponskills.
Windbuffet procs return ~14 TP after 100 weaponskills.
"If Conserve TP procs, it saves a random whole amount of TP between 1 and 20 TP. This is not a percentage reduction like Conserve MP or Blood Boon, but a straight random amount of TP saved. " -bgwiki
Kin37ix said: »
Odin.Sawtelle said: »
Kin37ix said: »
Conserve TP procs return ~70 TP after 100 weaponskils.
Windbuffet procs return ~14 TP after 100 weaponskills.
Windbuffet procs return ~14 TP after 100 weaponskills.
"If Conserve TP procs, it saves a random whole amount of TP between 1 and 20 TP. This is not a percentage reduction like Conserve MP or Blood Boon, but a straight random amount of TP saved. " -bgwiki
The average tp saved is ~10, times 7% proc from belt is 70.
Kin37ix said: »
Cerberus.Taint said: »
I was just playing with the math some.
If ACC is uncapped (94.1%acc is the break even point), then Elemtal belt pulls ahead.
If ACC is uncapped (94.1%acc is the break even point), then Elemtal belt pulls ahead.
So at 1% under cap Ele Belt starts to win. That's pretty significant.
In certain situations I'd agree since the 2nd hit doesn't get the ACC bonus.
An assumptive statement would be T6 or higher mobs use Elemental belt, anything lower use Windbuffet.
Could I butt in and ask; is Windbuffet just better for Shoha? or Fudo as well, or is that still Beir Belt +1?
I Fudo in Windbuffet for 3 reasons:
1) Inventory.
2) 400k.
3) If I'm using Fudo, it's mainly for AM, so I'd prefer a spike every now and then over a few extra digits.
Might be stupid reasons but I'm a stupid cat.
1) Inventory.
2) 400k.
3) If I'm using Fudo, it's mainly for AM, so I'd prefer a spike every now and then over a few extra digits.
Might be stupid reasons but I'm a stupid cat.
Stupid question, but wasn't it determined the fTP doesn't carry over to the second hit of shoha?
This quoted section was mentioned in a Requi thread on here and Nightfyre does a lot of good math stuff. So if that is the case wouldn't the ele belts lose horribly? I still use windbuffet personally and have had no real issues. I like the occasional 4800+ shohas.
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Resolution, Entropy, Blade: Shun, Requiescat, Realmrazer, Ruinator, Last Stand off the top of my head. Upheaval doesn't, Exenterator doesn't, Shoha doesn't, Shijin doesn't, Apex Arrow is one hit, and iirc Shattersoul doesn't.
This quoted section was mentioned in a Requi thread on here and Nightfyre does a lot of good math stuff. So if that is the case wouldn't the ele belts lose horribly? I still use windbuffet personally and have had no real issues. I like the occasional 4800+ shohas.
Correct, the fTP doesn't transfer to the second hit on Shoha like it does on some of the other merit WS. The only time Ele Belts pull ahead are when your second hit's acc is uncapped (which is only a problem on a handful of mobs at the moment) since the second hit doesn't get the massive acc boost that the first hit gets.
Basically:
So at 1% under cap Ele Belt starts to win. That's pretty significant.
In certain situations I'd agree since the 2nd hit doesn't get the ACC bonus.
An assumptive statement would be T6 or higher mobs use Elemental belt, anything lower use Windbuffet.
Basically:
Cerberus.Taint said: »
Kin37ix said: »
Cerberus.Taint said: »
I was just playing with the math some.
If ACC is uncapped (94.1%acc is the break even point), then Elemtal belt pulls ahead.
If ACC is uncapped (94.1%acc is the break even point), then Elemtal belt pulls ahead.
So at 1% under cap Ele Belt starts to win. That's pretty significant.
In certain situations I'd agree since the 2nd hit doesn't get the ACC bonus.
An assumptive statement would be T6 or higher mobs use Elemental belt, anything lower use Windbuffet.
Fudo in Beir+1 if you use it for more than AM and inventory is not a problem.
Windbuffet's effects on fudo are far less dazzerling than compared to shoha.
Windbuffet's effects on fudo are far less dazzerling than compared to shoha.
Forgive me if there has been answered, but i wonder if Breeze gorget/snow belt good for shoha?
EDIT: I mean Breeze belt
EDIT: I mean Breeze belt
Bahamut.Haymitch said: »
Forgive me if there has been answered, but i wonder if Breeze gorget/snow belt good for shoha?
Am I seeing things, or am I seeing questions being asked multiple times on the same page, all given multiple answers?
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Double Edit: Someone deleted their post. Nevermind.
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Double Edit: Someone deleted their post. Nevermind.
Will 99 masa beat Draca Couse in VW lol?
Siren.Fupafighters said: »
Will 99 masa beat Draca Couse in VW lol?
If you're strictly talking about Shoha vs Stardiver, Draca will win.
Masa's ODD will make it pull ahead though.
people take 18 to hahava and still die?
Yup. when you don't fanatics you still die.
Is Shura Zunari Kabuto +1 with a WS+3% /SC+3% and Attack +5-7 better or worse then oto for TP GK Shoha? Just want to know before I start spending gil on it.
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
Oh, I know, that's why I TP in store TP- gear to cancel out my natural store TP.
Reminds me of the mock sets I make full of subtle blow and slow+ for thieves. Those darn TP feeders.
Asura.Ackeronll said: »
Is Shura Zunari Kabuto +1 with a WS+3% /SC+3% and Attack +5-7 better or worse then oto for TP GK Shoha? Just want to know before I start spending gil on it.
Mekira+1 for Shoha
Shura+1 for the 1 hitters or ending a SC
ok thank you.
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