Tachi: Shoha

Windbuffet belt

None up D:

So what I can gather is that if my friend isn't going to take his Masamune to lvl 99, then don't bother and make a Kanto instead because it's as good / better than a lvl 90 masamune? I can almost guarantee he'll never get it to lvl 95 even, so it would forever sit at lvl 90. I just want to point him in the right direction... He will be capping Shoha and Stardiver though. (He has drg too).

90 Masaune is still good can self light skillchain, but i would get both it isnt hard

That's a good point... I presume Kanto is easier so I'll tell him to do that one to have until he can get Masamune up to 90.

Tell him not to forget masamune is very nice in abyssea and stuff like dynamis too. konzen-attai kasha, then fudo is very nice.

90 Masamune could technically take less time to make than a 99 Kanto, lol.

Nah. The empy items yes, but the time spent on lottery NMs sucks. I could do tp bonus in 2 days max. 10 regain yo :D

Make JPs farm them for you while you sleep.

Dude...you have no idea how mad I was making my armageddon. ALl the groups i joined, booted me if I was afk. Japanese are not nice. Twashtar, I slept through the whole damn thing(american time).

You'll never miss more ws's than on a killing blow trial. Mandau and kanto were both infuriating.

I had tp bonus back at 90 cap. Then I droped it for masamune. But sea daughter, VV, and i cant remember the 2 hander regain +3 one, make kanto extremely fast and easy to do.

There still hasnt been any actual numbers comparing 90 masa and the 99 tp bonus GKT. now i figure the 90 masa will with cause of the aftermath but i would love to see some actual data if anyone has some.

Pretty sure taint did it all in the kanto vs masa thread. Will see if I can find it before work and paste it in here.

If Masamune90 only used Fudo at 100tp (AM1)

Set 1


Elvaan
99
War
Red C Bun


12
0
0
5%
5
5
3
5
4
16
0
5
5


GK
Tachi: Fudo
1
30%


Set 1
331
93.731

3.39
2021

3382
840

241.597


100tp Bonus 99 Shoha spam

Set 2


Elvaan
99
War
Red C Bun


12
0
0
5%
5
5
3
5
4
16
0
5
5


GK
Tachi: Shoha
1
0%


Set 2
232
62.310

3.62
2567

3739
929

241.402

And that does not take into account lots of other Masamune favoring factors.

Haga,Sekk,Mediate,Zanhasso all favor Masamune. Every tic of TP over 100 devalues the bonus from TP100 and SAMs can rarely WS at exactly 100tp.

It is also assuming that the 90Masa user is only spamming Fudo, DPS increases by 7 from Shoha and pulls away even further if the Masa user can start a fight with 300tp for AM3. (90 sec)

The only way 100tp bonus can beat Masamune is with the "high end buffs" I was referring. Miser's is getting nerfed on Tuesday furthering the case for 90Masa.

Check your math.

All pasted from Taint in the kanto vs masa thread. Hopefully this horse will now stay dead.

I missed the one that poped just over a day ago and kicked myself! Camping the mofoing AH for one D:

Thank you for taking the time to show that

Should thank Taint for doing it, I'm no math wiz :p Just remembered where I read it.

here you go

http://willatwill.blog87.fc2.com/blog-entry-617.html

What?

That's copied from Taint's older post. Miser nerf is old news now.

Id say Meditate favors TP bonus GK if done during fight as you will be spamming shoha as soon as you raech 100 tp which will be 1-2 hits max depending on WS time vs tics.

so instead of quickly explain it, you decide to post that it's just "old news"? thanks lol

I'd say unless you are running a script you are rarely WSing as soon as you reach 100tp. (even a script doesn't change the fact that SAM over TPs by nature)

Obviously the ability to build TP before the fight benefits Masamune as well.

They are renerfing the current nerf! This process will now be know as renfing!!

I joke, was not sure how to quote and post into another thread so just copied and pasted the lot from a while back. Sorry if anyone got confused, should of also probably mentioned that the data is for Qilin.

It's worth giving the kanto v's masa thread a read though as all this was dealt with there (hence the name). I just remembered where the info was because all I do is lurk SAM and WHM forums but WHM's don't get as argumentative. They/we are a docile bunch ;)

This is my Shoha set, any thoughts?

I dunno, I see roughly the same as is but consistancy w/ unkai/kemas. I get mixed responses a lot. Just wanted to see what I could get from cross server opinions.

Brutal+TP Bonus Moonshade.