Ramuh.Yarly said: »
To answer the original question...
Yes, FFXI, FFXIV and Win7 will all fit comfortably on a 256GB SSD.
So go for it!
Yes, FFXI, FFXIV and Win7 will all fit comfortably on a 256GB SSD.
So go for it!
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All 3 would fit on an 80GB SSD xD
FF14 should run flawless on this kind of setup
Ramuh.Urial said: »
Yeah I tested FFXIV on my SSD and my 7200rpm drive and saw the same no noticeable difference. I didn't test XI because I'd already quit at the time. I personally wouldn't adjust anything in my rig for XI since the game itself is all based on 10 years ago.
It's all personal preference but other than space, I can't think of any reason why you wouldn't want your game on the SSD drive.
Hey, it's not my money.
Dude is building a $3800 computer for 2 old-*** games. I doubt he cares about price:performance ratio.
Dude is building a $3800 computer for 2 old-*** games. I doubt he cares about price:performance ratio.
Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
Ramuh.Urial said: »
Yeah I tested FFXIV on my SSD and my 7200rpm drive and saw the same no noticeable difference. I didn't test XI because I'd already quit at the time. I personally wouldn't adjust anything in my rig for XI since the game itself is all based on 10 years ago.
It's all personal preference but other than space, I can't think of any reason why you wouldn't want your game on the SSD drive.
Because games like FFXI and FFXIV you can't gain any major performance from it. But eh I suppose Yarly's right.
I have teh best PC around, limited by SE's poor coding....wat.
Fenrir.Krazyrs said: »
cant tell you, i got a 40SSD for just my OS (w7) and 2 separate 1TB drives
FYI for anyone else reading this, I would suggest atleast a 60GB SSD for a boot drive.
I have a 40GB SSD(which is really only 37) as boot drive and it is almost full, only like 500MB left. The ONLY things on it are WIN 7(which I believe is around 30 GB), drivers, and WIN 7 updates. All my temp files/user files are on my 1TB drive, which is usually a big chunk of data.
This is a more realistic build for your need for about $1,450 after rebates and will play just about any game maxed out at 1080p. If performance is not enough toss in another 6950 for crossfire and overclock the CPU to around 4.5ghz and you will be good to go for years. Would also recommend buying a really nice IPS panel monitor over using a TV for one. There is a huge difference in quality when you are sitting up close.
meh, 40gb should fit it all, 80 comfortably, I'd get at least 120-160 to just not have to worry about it.
I have about 160gb used of my main hdd, but I also have a good bit of school programs on, and a couple of virtual hard disk files that take up about half my space (estimated).
the machine is severely overpowered there's no doubt in that, I'm definitely jelly of any final build by this budget.
I have about 160gb used of my main hdd, but I also have a good bit of school programs on, and a couple of virtual hard disk files that take up about half my space (estimated).
the machine is severely overpowered there's no doubt in that, I'm definitely jelly of any final build by this budget.
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Asura.Revelation said: »
Fenrir.Krazyrs said: »
cant tell you, i got a 40SSD for just my OS (w7) and 2 separate 1TB drives
FYI for anyone else reading this, I would suggest atleast a 60GB SSD for a boot drive.
I have a 40GB SSD(which is really only 37) as boot drive and it is almost full, only like 500MB left. The ONLY things on it are WIN 7(which I believe is around 30 GB), drivers, and WIN 7 updates. All my temp files/user files are on my 1TB drive, which is usually a big chunk of data.
My 80gb is really 74.4 and I'm down to 20gb with only windows drivers and BF3 on it.
Asura.Revelation said: »
Fenrir.Krazyrs said: »
cant tell you, i got a 40SSD for just my OS (w7) and 2 separate 1TB drives
FYI for anyone else reading this, I would suggest atleast a 60GB SSD for a boot drive.
I have a 40GB SSD(which is really only 37) as boot drive and it is almost full, only like 500MB left. The ONLY things on it are WIN 7(which I believe is around 30 GB), drivers, and WIN 7 updates. All my temp files/user files are on my 1TB drive, which is usually a big chunk of data.
lol 7 is nowhere near that size by itself, even with updates...
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
Asura.Revelation said: »
Fenrir.Krazyrs said: »
cant tell you, i got a 40SSD for just my OS (w7) and 2 separate 1TB drives
You should really get atleast 120gb SSD cause running SSD near full compasity really degrades the peroformance from what I read. Its good to have some head room.
Viktor Kreutz said: »
Honestly this built is just a complete waste of money if all you care for is FFXI and XIV. Is it nice to have a bad *** comp like that? Sure but whats the point when 80% of its potential will never be used and obsolete in a year. You are better off just building a $2000 comp and putting the rest away.
Uhhh yes..lol. It is mainly just those 2 games but gonna be doing a ton video work on it to. so i wanted the best i could get as i hate rendering video..so slow.
-I actually completly changed the PC since the last time i was askin, I decided to drop some parts (was gonna do RAID1+0) dropped a few peripherals prices and such, and went with the i7-3930k and an Asus sabertooth X79, the reason i did this is because i know that boards and cards e.t.c change alot, and I just said f it ill go with the 2011 socket now rather then fixing it later, and i can still use 2 580 3gb cards in the future, even my raid if i want. so heres how it stands atm
Case: COOLER MASTER HAF X Blue Edition RC-942-KKN3 Black Steel
CPU: Intel i7-3930k
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100
GPU EVGA GTX 580 3GB Classified
Mobo: ASUS Sabertooth X79 LGA 2011
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
SSD: OCZ Vertex 3 120GB
HDD: Seagate Momentus 750 GB Solid State Hybrid Drive
PSU: COOLER MASTER Silent Pro Gold Series 1000W
Few of the extras:
Monitor: Asus VK278Q Black 27" Full HD HDMI LED BackLight LCD Monitor w/Webcam
Sound: ASUS XONAR_DG 5.1 Channels PCI Interface Xonar DG Sound Card
Spkr: Logitech Z506 75 watts RMS 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers
Monitor
The 3800$ price tag is with dif extras as i said, those r afew, and a 200$ Hauppauge for my PS3 recording, tired of dazzle..i think the pc parts themselves wud only be around 3000$ of the total
Edit: as far as this config goes only thing i cant decide is what Mobo i want.
meh, last I checked nobody offers a 1080p capture device, yes I do know that very few things are actually 1080 but that's not the point.
Still think it's a tad overdoing it, but hey it's not my $
As for the raid, let me know how that works for you, I've been interested but I've never known anyone personally to set it up.
Still think it's a tad overdoing it, but hey it's not my $
As for the raid, let me know how that works for you, I've been interested but I've never known anyone personally to set it up.
I've been doing a bunch of research on SSD's lately and the consensus seems to be that while OCZ usually makes the cheaper ones, don't go with that brand. Samsung, Crucial, and Intel are the more reliable brands in that order. Even Corsair is a better bet than OCZ.
I love my crucial ram, personally.
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
meh, last I checked nobody offers a 1080p capture device, yes I do know that very few things are actually 1080 but that's not the point.
Still think it's a tad overdoing it, but hey it's not my $
As for the raid, let me know how that works for you, I've been interested but I've never known anyone personally to set it up.
Still think it's a tad overdoing it, but hey it's not my $
As for the raid, let me know how that works for you, I've been interested but I've never known anyone personally to set it up.
Least you understand the point of this. It's my money i dunno why people complain, advice is 1 thing but some ppl take it to insults, not cool. I have alot of prefrences and am very picky.
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
I've been doing a bunch of research on SSD's lately and the consensus seems to be that while OCZ usually makes the cheaper ones, don't go with that brand. Samsung, Crucial, and Intel are the more reliable brands in that order. Even Corsair is a better bet than OCZ.
Just going off what tomshardware.com said was the best 120GB, but ill look a bit more, the 120 GB just seels to small for me but dun wanna go back to a 256GB, to pricey
Edit: switched to this Intel 320 Series SSDSA2CW160G3K5 2.5" 160GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD), wanted a tad more space and it comes with a free copy of RAGE :). I really wanted this game lol.
This one is your best bet IMO, I'm saving up for it too.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148442
EDIT: That Intel one is good too and a bit more space as well. Intel is definitely a reliable brand.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148442
EDIT: That Intel one is good too and a bit more space as well. Intel is definitely a reliable brand.
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
This one is your best bet IMO, I'm saving up for it too.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148442
EDIT: That Intel one is good too and a bit more space as well. Intel is definitely a reliable brand.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148442
EDIT: That Intel one is good too and a bit more space as well. Intel is definitely a reliable brand.
I'll keep that 1 in mind, I'm not ordering till next friday or monday so i'm sure ill make changes here and there.
120 is enough for the stuff you want, and some good extra room to not have to constantly fiddle with your main drive's space.
not trying to knock on you one bit on what you're trying to build, however from what you've said you're going to do with the machine nobody can deny that you're going a tad over the top even to the point of it being unnecesary.
as for video, my comment was that they don't offer capture cards in 1080p, 1080i and 720p they do (at least none that I could find the other day), please somebody point if they know of one)
that and from what I know of encoding, if you have a dedicated hardware encoding, you won't need as much power from the rest of your computer, but I may be wrong on this note as I've never played with it much. If I am right on that though, and considering the other games you want, on only a 27" monitor and not dual screening you can scale it back a lot and save some for future upgrades or even maybe a larger or an additional monitor.
I don't see the point in more than 8gb of ram, even for what you're doing, unless you plan to run everything at the same time.
I've run XI, 2 virtual machines and xi in a vm, and photoshop, and illustrator and indesign at the same time and I didn't even max out my 8gb on my lowend first gen i7 with only 1gb of dedicated video.
(plus some other programs)
I do envy your budget though as there's some technologies I'd like to try out, like rapid storage technology.
not trying to knock on you one bit on what you're trying to build, however from what you've said you're going to do with the machine nobody can deny that you're going a tad over the top even to the point of it being unnecesary.
as for video, my comment was that they don't offer capture cards in 1080p, 1080i and 720p they do (at least none that I could find the other day), please somebody point if they know of one)
that and from what I know of encoding, if you have a dedicated hardware encoding, you won't need as much power from the rest of your computer, but I may be wrong on this note as I've never played with it much. If I am right on that though, and considering the other games you want, on only a 27" monitor and not dual screening you can scale it back a lot and save some for future upgrades or even maybe a larger or an additional monitor.
I don't see the point in more than 8gb of ram, even for what you're doing, unless you plan to run everything at the same time.
I've run XI, 2 virtual machines and xi in a vm, and photoshop, and illustrator and indesign at the same time and I didn't even max out my 8gb on my lowend first gen i7 with only 1gb of dedicated video.
(plus some other programs)
I do envy your budget though as there's some technologies I'd like to try out, like rapid storage technology.
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
120 is enough for the stuff you want, and some good extra room to not have to constantly fiddle with your main drive's space.
not trying to knock on you one bit on what you're trying to build, however from what you've said you're going to do with the machine nobody can deny that you're going a tad over the top even to the point of it being unnecesary.
as for video, my comment was that they don't offer capture cards in 1080p, 1080i and 720p they do (at least none that I could find the other day), please somebody point if they know of one)
that and from what I know of encoding, if you have a dedicated hardware encoding, you won't need as much power from the rest of your computer, but I may be wrong on this note as I've never played with it much. If I am right on that though, and considering the other games you want, on only a 27" monitor and not dual screening you can scale it back a lot and save some for future upgrades or even maybe a larger or an additional monitor.
I don't see the point in more than 8gb of ram, even for what you're doing, unless you plan to run everything at the same time.
I've run XI, 2 virtual machines and xi in a vm, and photoshop, and illustrator and indesign at the same time and I didn't even max out my 8gb on my lowend first gen i7 with only 1gb of dedicated video.
(plus some other programs)
I do envy your budget though as there's some technologies I'd like to try out, like rapid storage technology.
not trying to knock on you one bit on what you're trying to build, however from what you've said you're going to do with the machine nobody can deny that you're going a tad over the top even to the point of it being unnecesary.
as for video, my comment was that they don't offer capture cards in 1080p, 1080i and 720p they do (at least none that I could find the other day), please somebody point if they know of one)
that and from what I know of encoding, if you have a dedicated hardware encoding, you won't need as much power from the rest of your computer, but I may be wrong on this note as I've never played with it much. If I am right on that though, and considering the other games you want, on only a 27" monitor and not dual screening you can scale it back a lot and save some for future upgrades or even maybe a larger or an additional monitor.
I don't see the point in more than 8gb of ram, even for what you're doing, unless you plan to run everything at the same time.
I've run XI, 2 virtual machines and xi in a vm, and photoshop, and illustrator and indesign at the same time and I didn't even max out my 8gb on my lowend first gen i7 with only 1gb of dedicated video.
(plus some other programs)
I do envy your budget though as there's some technologies I'd like to try out, like rapid storage technology.
It's the only time in my life ima have this budget, heck i prolly wont get to do anything to the pc but once a year when taxes come. even then only 1000$ at max per yr to upgrade, which cud be enough who knows. This is just from an injury settlementI'm recieving so I'll be stuck in front of my beast for at least a year. and im killing the 27" and going with a 24", plenty big enough 140$ cheaper (as i said i change my mind alot). And the ram will prolly jump again in march to 32GB (another 4x4). One the new features on this board i want can use 1 set of ram for one thing and another set for something else. cant remember the details but it sounded amazing, guy even went as far as saying your pc cud power out and the data cud save on that RAM even tho it went out suddenly...I dunno y not play with the new abilities while i can ^^.
Now im srsly thinking bout the 6990 > 580 tho..6990 seems to beat the 580 and 590 and is same as 580 3gb price, and cheaper then 590. my only issue with 6990 to begin with was the fact of it being kinda loud, something I'm use to tho since my current PC fans r crazy loud.
EDIT: also been thinking bout the x2 570 in SLI
If you're worried about the 6990 being loud and since you have some money lying around.
Use this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186055
It's not going to be a walk in the park to install so if you have someone building your computer, tell them to install that, too. Just make sure you keep the old heatsink for warranty purposes.
Use this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186055
It's not going to be a walk in the park to install so if you have someone building your computer, tell them to install that, too. Just make sure you keep the old heatsink for warranty purposes.
Ramuh.Yarly said: »
If you're worried about the 6990 being loud and since you have some money lying around.
Use this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186055
It's not going to be a walk in the park to install so if you have someone building your computer, tell them to install that, too. Just make sure you keep the old heatsink for warranty purposes.
Use this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186055
It's not going to be a walk in the park to install so if you have someone building your computer, tell them to install that, too. Just make sure you keep the old heatsink for warranty purposes.
that is sexy 0.o.
Edit > double post. I hit my ceiling of 4000$ (pc + peripherals + extras) but at leastt he machine will be used for actual games now, like BF3, Rage and CoD MW3..as well as alot of video editing e.t.c..now no1 can complain. lol
ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 1155 is meant to be compatible with PCI 3.0 and Ivy Bridge. So I'm considering getting one of those since they are relatively cheap. But there are quite a few boards that are supposedly future proof. Most likely going to get an ASUS board and try to future proof.
ASUS PCI 3.0 Ready list.
During my scouting for a new MB I found this article that made me lol
MSI calls out Gigabyte
ASUS PCI 3.0 Ready list.
During my scouting for a new MB I found this article that made me lol
MSI calls out Gigabyte
I do like the z68 chipset, it is the only Sandy bridge chipset that supports smart response technology (If you're into trying it out), the only next gen chipset (currently) that has that and old pci support is the Q77, which isn't out til next year, so a current system I'd make sure it's a z68.
(for those who want the built in gpu of the cpu the z68 is the better option as the q77 isn't currently supporting it(or just isn't known) (according to wiki)
socket 1155
(for those who want the built in gpu of the cpu the z68 is the better option as the q77 isn't currently supporting it(or just isn't known) (according to wiki)
socket 1155
I wont even pretend i know the dif between the chipsets, or whats gonna be common in future. I just went from a socket 1155 board to a socket 2011 board..figure thats where its gonna go
Does anyone have a HD 6950 and play ffxi? im experiencing alot of game freezes lately, and im wandering if its a faulty gfx card or just maybe the architecture of the new gfx card doesnt support old games like ffxi well, because it doesnt freeze during new games like skyrimm and mw3 which i run at max setting :-(
oncura said: »
I wont even pretend i know the dif between the chipsets, or whats gonna be common in future. I just went from a socket 1155 board to a socket 2011 board..figure thats where its gonna go
meh, unless you want a hex core cpu (which you may) I'd get the 1155.
then again it fits better in the price/performance ratio. (and there's new chipsets for it next year, so it will be there for awhile apparently)
Ivy Bridge isn't meant to be coming out till Q2 2012 but they might just push it back again which is a bit annoying - but it'll be worth the wait as long as it isn't another Bulldozer fiasco :P They might even hold it off till the HDD shortage is in a better situation to ensure they get more sales - but that's just speculation on my part.
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: »
oncura said: »
I wont even pretend i know the dif between the chipsets, or whats gonna be common in future. I just went from a socket 1155 board to a socket 2011 board..figure thats where its gonna go
meh, unless you want a hex core cpu (which you may) I'd get the 1155.
then again it fits better in the price/performance ratio. (and there's new chipsets for it next year, so it will be there for awhile apparently)
yeh been thinkin bout what to do, but im rly liking the x79 boards, alot crazy features
Socket 1155 is for your average enthusiast and your basic machines. Yo can get basic boards for for your i3/i5. But you can also get nice boards for the i7 with a lot of nice features.
The odds of you ever utilizing a 2011 socket CPU to it's max are slim to none unless you really just want to get into high end overclocking for fun.
I personally believe the socket 1155 will be around longer because of the wider range of use it will have, it's not just targeted at the top of the top but every range between low and high end.
The odds of you ever utilizing a 2011 socket CPU to it's max are slim to none unless you really just want to get into high end overclocking for fun.
I personally believe the socket 1155 will be around longer because of the wider range of use it will have, it's not just targeted at the top of the top but every range between low and high end.
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