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By Bahamut.Atoreis 2011-08-29 12:03:02
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
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lol.....just lol

That's what everyone is thinking of you right now.

You are very generous Shiroi
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-08-29 12:09:31
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White Wind seems to have a pretty bad curve for Max HP:HP restored.

Naked, 1344 base max HP
384 HP Recovered

1344+90(meridian ring)= 1434 max HP
408 HP recovered

gimp HP set, 1672 max HP
476 HP recovered

More testing needed, but looks kinda meh as far as gear returns.


I might be wrong but isn't that ~28,5% for every cast? The difference is pretty small between them.

A little less than that, but close enough.
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-08-29 12:12:40
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need to get some atmas up in this ***

also

I'd log on the test server, seeing as how i finally just finished extracting everything and help you test to see if white wind is affected by the blu's or target's max hp, but my next class starts in 45mins

*** spanish
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-08-29 12:14:36
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I'm up for it later, about to take a break myself to finish some work.
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By Bahamut.Atoreis 2011-08-29 12:15:48
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That might finally make some use for my HP sets lol
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-08-29 12:16:25
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
I'm up for it later, about to take a break myself to finish some work.
word up
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By Siren.Inuyushi 2011-08-29 12:29:00
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Siren.Inuyushi said: »
lol.....just lol
That's what everyone is thinking of you right now.

Nah, only people who live in ffxi 24/7, hover these forums as a second job and save Meme's to use as replies in threads. Life {Do you have it?}
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-08-29 12:31:16
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Siren.Inuyushi said: »
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Siren.Inuyushi said: »
lol.....just lol
That's what everyone is thinking of you right now.

Nah, only people who live in ffxi 24/7, hover these forums as a second job and save Meme's to use as replies in threads. Life {Do you have it?}
Actually chief I was able to do all of that while looking over the course material for the class I'm headed to right now. Making a joke out of people like you is what I call multi-tasking, although to be fair you're doing a lot of the work for me.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-08-29 12:33:56
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Well Thunderbolt info is in. Don't expect much from HNM spells.

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By Deemos 2011-08-29 12:53:45
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anyone wanting to join a test LS just let Zoner know, its called crashtestdummies, - pretty useful to not get bored while we discover shitz
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-08-29 12:59:01
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Siren.Inuyushi said: »
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Siren.Inuyushi said: »
lol.....just lol
That's what everyone is thinking of you right now.

Nah, only people who live in ffxi 24/7, hover these forums as a second job and save Meme's to use as replies in threads. Life {Do you have it?}

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By olyard 2011-08-29 12:59:26
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Siren.Inuyushi said: »
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Siren.Inuyushi said: »
lol.....just lol
That's what everyone is thinking of you right now.

Nah, only people who live in ffxi 24/7, hover these forums as a second job and save Meme's to use as replies in threads. Life {Do you have it?}

RL card, why am I not shocked
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-08-29 13:01:01
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White Wind formula is floor(HP/7)*2, also augmented by cure potency. It's not the same as HP/3.5 before it's brought up.
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By Fenrir.Omgwtftaru 2011-08-29 13:30:11
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Since I'm a BLU specializing in magical spells, here are my 2 cents on the new magical spells.

Range for Water Bomb and Dark Orb seems to be 21'. Water Bomb seems very weak, was testing in Qufim Island, did around 500. Dark Orb did 1500. Thunderbolt did 1500 as well and is affected by Burst Affinity and Convergence. Hardened shell works with Diffusion.
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By Fenrir.Mefuki 2011-08-29 13:37:41
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One of the reason for the test server was to be able to test spells and job abilities before they are implemented, right?

So, if there's something that we find wrong(like Barrier Tusk's not-so-Phalanx effect or White Wind's cure formula), we should let SE know as soon as possible via the offical forums. What better time to ask for an adjustment to a spell(s) then before they're even implemented?
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By Leviathan.Omniflare 2011-08-29 14:34:22
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Looked for traits for a little bit, what I got was:

Heavy Strike = Double Attack
Water Bomb = Conserve MP
Mortal Ray = Dual Wield
Barrier Tusk = Max HP Boost
Dark Orb = Counter
White Wind = Auto Regen
Sudden Lunge = Store TP

Should be right but might have made a mistake
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By Cerberus.Maxiel 2011-08-29 14:37:47
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Leviathan.Omniflare said: »
Looked for traits for a little bit, what I got was:

Heavy Strike = Double Attack
Water Bomb = Conserve MP
Mortal Ray = Dual Wield
Barrier Tusk = Max HP Boost
Dark Orb = Counter
White Wind = Auto Regen
Sudden Lunge = Store TP

Should be right but might have made a mistake

Can anyone test if all 5 DW traits make Dual Wield 3? (It might not be worth setting all the points for it though) Also how's the accuracy and cooldown of Sudden Lunge? I can see it replacing head butt if we can get Store TP from that and Fantod.

I guess I'm coming back to the game sooner than I thought.
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By Leviathan.Omniflare 2011-08-29 14:41:24
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Cerberus.Maxiel said: »
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Looked for traits for a little bit, what I got was:

Heavy Strike = Double Attack
Water Bomb = Conserve MP
Mortal Ray = Dual Wield
Barrier Tusk = Max HP Boost
Dark Orb = Counter
White Wind = Auto Regen
Sudden Lunge = Store TP

Should be right but might have made a mistake

Can anyone test if all 5 DW traits make Dual Wield 3? (It might not be worth setting all the points for it though) Also how's the accuracy and cooldown of Sudden Lunge? I can see it replacing head butt if we can get Store TP from that and Fantod.

I guess I'm coming back to the game sooner than I thought.

Sudden Lunge's cooldown is too long to entirely replace head butt, and as far as accuracy I haven't been able to check it yet. I think someone else checked for DW 3 and came to the conclusion we didn't get it.
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By Asura.Karbuncle 2011-08-29 14:45:46
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I think someone else checked for DW 3 and came to the conclusion we didn't get it.

Correct, I just got finished reading that test on BG, no Dual wield 3 yet. Likely by 99 though.
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By Cerberus.Maxiel 2011-08-29 15:05:32
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Looked for traits for a little bit, what I got was:

Heavy Strike = Double Attack
Water Bomb = Conserve MP
Mortal Ray = Dual Wield
Barrier Tusk = Max HP Boost
Dark Orb = Counter
White Wind = Auto Regen
Sudden Lunge = Store TP

Should be right but might have made a mistake

Can anyone test if all 5 DW traits make Dual Wield 3? (It might not be worth setting all the points for it though) Also how's the accuracy and cooldown of Sudden Lunge? I can see it replacing head butt if we can get Store TP from that and Fantod.

I guess I'm coming back to the game sooner than I thought.

Sudden Lunge's cooldown is too long to entirely replace head butt, and as far as accuracy I haven't been able to check it yet. I think someone else checked for DW 3 and came to the conclusion we didn't get it.


Yeah just read everything and a lot of things for BLU (or in general :P) seem to be a letdown. I already set Sickle Slash for Store TP, and Empty Thrash for Double Attack. So maybe replacing that with Sudden Lunge and Heavy Strike gives us more toys to play with since the old spells are purely for fillers on the job traits. I already have a pretty good spell list in mind for general use.
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By Leviathan.Omniflare 2011-08-29 15:06:31
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Did a little more:

Setting Flying Hips Press, Body Slam, Frypan, and Barrier Tusk gives Max HP Boost II (wooo).

Setting Sudden Lunge, Fantod, Tail Slap, and Sickle Slash gives Store TP II (10 swings with 3 set gave 66 tp, 10 swings with all 4 gave 69).

Setting Healing Breeze, Sheep Song, and White Wind does not give Auto Regen II.

Heavy Strike, Acrid Stream, Demoralizing Roar, and Empty Thrash give Triple Attack, but you lose the Double Attack (this was tested already).

Seems pretty common sense, if it was fourth spell for that trait we get a new tier. I don't know how to go about testing Convserve MP or Counter, but can if they're simple tests and easily explained.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-08-29 15:09:04
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Fenrir.Mefuki said: »
One of the reason for the test server was to be able to test spells and job abilities before they are implemented, right?

So, if there's something that we find wrong(like Barrier Tusk's not-so-Phalanx effect or White Wind's cure formula), we should let SE know as soon as possible via the offical forums. What better time to ask for an adjustment to a spell(s) then before they're even implemented?
There's nothing wrong with Barrier Tusk, not sure why you think there is.
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By Cathaldus 2011-08-29 15:12:35
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One of the reason for the test server was to be able to test spells and job abilities before they are implemented, right?

So, if there's something that we find wrong(like Barrier Tusk's not-so-Phalanx effect or White Wind's cure formula), we should let SE know as soon as possible via the offical forums. What better time to ask for an adjustment to a spell(s) then before they're even implemented?
There's nothing wrong with Barrier Tusk, not sure why you think there is.
recasting every 60 seconds is kinda annoying I'd suspect though.
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By Cerberus.Maxiel 2011-08-29 15:13:33
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Leviathan.Omniflare said: »
Did a little more:

Setting Flying Hips Press, Body Slam, Frypan, and Barrier Tusk gives Max HP Boost II (wooo).

Setting Sudden Lunge, Fantod, Tail Slap, and Sickle Slash gives Store TP II (10 swings with 3 set gave 66 tp, 10 swings with all 4 gave 69).

Setting Healing Breeze, Sheep Song, and White Wind does not give Auto Regen II.

Heavy Strike, Acrid Stream, Demoralizing Roar, and Empty Thrash give Triple Attack, but you lose the Double Attack (this was tested already).

Seems pretty common sense, if it was fourth spell for that trait we get a new tier. I don't know how to go about testing Convserve MP or Counter, but can if they're simple tests and easily explained.

Yep Triple Attack and Store TP II don't seem worth it at all. Unless 95 gives us more blue magic points.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-08-29 15:17:01
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Cathaldus said: »
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
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One of the reason for the test server was to be able to test spells and job abilities before they are implemented, right?

So, if there's something that we find wrong(like Barrier Tusk's not-so-Phalanx effect or White Wind's cure formula), we should let SE know as soon as possible via the offical forums. What better time to ask for an adjustment to a spell(s) then before they're even implemented?
There's nothing wrong with Barrier Tusk, not sure why you think there is.
recasting every 60 seconds is kinda annoying I'd suspect though.
For how powerful an additional DT-15% independent of current DT caps is, I can dill. It would be nice if it stacked with Phalanx but on ***that matters it's hardly a bad trade since you're mitigating magic damage as well, plus this will have a very potent effect on strong TP moves.
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By Leviathan.Omniflare 2011-08-29 15:19:32
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Cerberus.Maxiel said: »
Yep Triple Attack and Store TP II don't seem worth it at all. Unless 95 gives us more blue magic points.

You get another 5 points at 95 for 60, still stuck with 20 spell slots though.
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By Fenrir.Mefuki 2011-08-29 15:20:26
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Oh, no, I didn't say there was anything wrong with it. At least, that's not what I intended to get across. I was just noticing some contention on some things and I wanted to remind people that if they think there's a problem, to let SE know about it.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-08-29 15:34:59
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The only spells I have an issue with would be Thunderbolt and Harden Shell. Harden Shell isn't bad in itself, but 90 seconds is a bit short. Thunderbolt is just underpowered a smidge. I would expect it to at least be a little closer to CW.
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By Ramuh.Laffter 2011-08-29 15:36:30
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Yeah, those spells need to be stronger and/or longer duration, since you're restricted in using them unless you use a separate ability. They are meant to be powerful.
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