Cerberus.Starr said:
How does it feel to know not even the president cares about your shitty states?
BTW, I would definitely vote for Santa Clause.
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Cerberus.Starr said: How does it feel to know not even the president cares about your shitty states? BTW, I would definitely vote for Santa Clause. Cerberus.Kalyna said: Quetzalcoatl.Kanjirou said: Well, at least he believes the earth is older than 5,000 years. lmfao Alexander.Tidusblitz
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Cerberus.Kalyna said: Alexander.Tidusblitz said: Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Alexander.Tidusblitz said: Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: point is, Obama is a closeted homo, gays should marry and be miserable, and evolution DID happen. /thread Obama also needs to do some big stuff before 2012 elections due to him failing to live up to what he promised. Oh look. Here we are. I wasnt. I get to be one of the "I told you so" people. Or just vote for Micky Mouse. See... Looking at what obama has done...how much worse could mccain and palin really have been? On the giant scale of *** up that obama has achieved, the worst they could have done is matched him. Sylph.Dobrusi said: Quetzalcoatl.Kanjirou said: Wombat said: Quetzalcoatl.Kanjirou said: Of course, some (unfortunately very large) sections of the American Christian community find this blasphemous, but frankly, they're wrong: they got their theology all screwed up (and yes I'd be willing to argue that with anyone who thinks otherwise -- looking at you, Starr.) According to the bible, marriage is to be between a man and women. I would love to see scripture in Christ's words (red letters, w/e) that gay marriage is feasable. In today's world if someone decides to be gay and marry then true Christians shouldn't judge them, even if they believe it is wrong, and if they do then shame on them. All sin is equal in the eyes of God so being gay is no bigger sin than murder or stealing. marriage predates the bible, so *** the bible. Alexander.Tidusblitz said: Cerberus.Kalyna said: Alexander.Tidusblitz said: Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Alexander.Tidusblitz said: Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: point is, Obama is a closeted homo, gays should marry and be miserable, and evolution DID happen. /thread Obama also needs to do some big stuff before 2012 elections due to him failing to live up to what he promised. Oh look. Here we are. I wasnt. I get to be one of the "I told you so" people. Or just vote for Micky Mouse. See... Looking at what obama has done...how much worse could mccain and palin really have been? On the giant scale of *** up that obama has achieved, the worst they could have done is matched him. I am not an Obama supported but I would never believe Mccain + Palin would have been equal or better. Offline
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Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: HOMOS SHOULD MARRY IN CHURCHES JUST TO PISS GOD OFF! Then we can witness a re-enactment of the firebombing of Sodom. Cerberus.Starr said: How does it feel to know not even the president cares about your shitty states? Bahamut.Jetackuu said: I think this video is mildly appropriate to this discussion: Thanks to those who kept it interesting and cool until now =D Alexander.Tidusblitz
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Alexander.Tidusblitz said: Cerberus.Kalyna said: Alexander.Tidusblitz said: Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Alexander.Tidusblitz said: Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: point is, Obama is a closeted homo, gays should marry and be miserable, and evolution DID happen. /thread Obama also needs to do some big stuff before 2012 elections due to him failing to live up to what he promised. Oh look. Here we are. I wasnt. I get to be one of the "I told you so" people. Or just vote for Micky Mouse. See... Looking at what obama has done...how much worse could mccain and palin really have been? On the giant scale of *** up that obama has achieved, the worst they could have done is matched him. I am not an Obama supported but I would never believe Mccain + Palin would have been equal or better. How much worse can you get? Name one good thing that obama has done. And by good, i mean good for at least 75% of the people it affects. Sylph.Dobrusi said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Sylph.Dobrusi said: Quetzalcoatl.Kanjirou said: Wombat said: Quetzalcoatl.Kanjirou said: Of course, some (unfortunately very large) sections of the American Christian community find this blasphemous, but frankly, they're wrong: they got their theology all screwed up (and yes I'd be willing to argue that with anyone who thinks otherwise -- looking at you, Starr.) Its your choice whether you follow the bible or not. In regards to what Jet says, might as well give up on him. He can only hear his on voice when it comes to these things. Quote: Wombat said: I'm really not sure which letter you're talking about. I'd have to see these passages to believe it. There are also translation issues to consider: several English editions of the bible, including the King James, mistranslate the original Greek words for concepts like sexual sin into things like our modern word "sodomy." (The Greeks were famously quite OK with sodomy and didn't consider it unnatural at all, so it makes little sense to add this modern baggage to their terms.) I'm truly and honesty unaware of anywhere in the New Testament that condemns homosexuality the way the Old Testament does. ASVNRSVKJVI'm much better with Hebrew than I am with Greek, but most scholars I'm acquainted with argue that the two Greek words that form the final two items listed here, combine to form an idiom which refers to both those who give and receive in homosexual sex. Though, I'm sure there are people who would disagree. Paul (the author of I Corinthians), despite being a Roman citizen, was a Jew. He wrote in Greek, but many Jews had a strong distaste for Greco-Roman culture--especially their sexual practices. Caitsith.Sai said: Quetzalcoatl.Kanjirou said: Cerberus.Starr said: I don't think there's any more I can say, PM me if you have any questions my friend. No that's OK, you've served as a wonderful example here as to exactly why this issue should not be decided by majority vote, but instead come down to the courts. Apparently you not only believe that gay marriage is a sacrilege on par with having sex in church, you think that, in order to accommodate this belief, our very system of government should be thrown out in favor of something closer to that of Iran. I mean, really, now, it's just beyond the pal. Straw man here maybe? I dont care for starr and dont care to defend their ideas but it is very hypocritical to attack an idea you dont agree with while defending another idea from attack for the same reason. It doesnt matter how much people *** and moan there is no such thing as Shangri-La. People must compromise. If you can't see this you are part of the problem and not the solution. Its not about proving whos right and whos wrong its about making all our lives better. ...Starr just literally suggested that we turn this country (no, the whole world) into a Christian theocracy, and you want me to compromise with them or I'm a hypocrite? Le whut? How does that work and how on earth am I supposed to compromise with that? Where do you even begin? No, the way you make people's lives better, here, is to utterly remove those like Starr from positions of power: you do not hold votes on this issue, you have the courts decide it. It's precisely beliefs like this, manifesting as votes, that keep gay people oppressed: Starr thinks God's word should inform our laws and that God's word condemns homosexuality as a sin; maybe we can compromise by agreeing to outlaw sodomy in one state but legalize gay marriage in another? Who knows, but let's get them at the table and start bargaining. Forget all that pesky Constitutional stuff like separation of church and state and all are equal before the law: what matters is that we compromise. Cerberus.Finalvegeta
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Sylph.Dobrusi said: No joke, for anyone who likes this guy, please tell me what he has done to better our country. I am dying to know. [/quote] Not much into american policits but what do you think would the other 2 do different? Just curious I personally believe sexual preference is just as it is...a preference.
I don't believe in genetically being homosexual or predestined love or any of that, weirdly that's the one thing I agree on with when it comes to conservatives. It not being a genetic predisposition doesn't mean it's bad in the least though. If any contrary claims may be said do say them, because I'm game for an actual discussion about it if someone else is. Alexander.Tidusblitz said: How much worse can you get? Name one good thing that obama has done. And by good, i mean good for at least 75% of the people it affects. Cerberus.Starr said: Shiva.Nikolce said: Cerberus.Starr said: So you'll use carbon dating to claim that dinosaurs exists (and contradict the Bible) then when it is used to validate the historicity of the Bible you will claim it's false? You are so smart, why didn't I think of that? I'm biased and bigoted? For taking a bite out of the cookie? I just wanted to know what you thought carbon dating proved in the bible and when anyone claimed that proof was false. I was sure I missed something. "You sound like a babbling retard when you don't use any context." Alexander.Tidusblitz said: Name one good thing that obama has done. And by good, i mean good for at least 75% of the people it affects. Got rid of G.W. Bush Alexander.Tidusblitz
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Cerberus.Kalyna said: Alexander.Tidusblitz said: Name one good thing that obama has done. And by good, i mean good for at least 75% of the people it affects. Got rid of G.W. Bush And just like that, you make yourself sound ignorant. Cerberus.Kalyna said: Alexander.Tidusblitz said: Name one good thing that obama has done. And by good, i mean good for at least 75% of the people it affects. Ummmm....are you sure? Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Alexander.Tidusblitz said: How much worse can you get? Name one good thing that obama has done. And by good, i mean good for at least 75% of the people it affects. Regardless, he is ineffective as of now. The master of compromise and get little done. Ronald Reagan. Americans have short attention spans so I doubt most people will even realize the extent Obama(or most presidents for that matter) effected this country. So you can prattle on about how much he did nothing. Or you can actually check what he did pass through, rather than focusing on the political positioning topics. Offline
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Ramuh.Vinvv said: I personally believe sexual preference is just as it is...a preference. I don't believe in genetically being homosexual or predestined love or any of that, weirdly that's the one thing I agree on with when it comes to conservatives. It not being a genetic predisposition doesn't mean it's bad in the least though. If any contrary claims may be said do say them, because I'm game for an actual discussion about it if someone else is. Now change your preference and do the experiment again. Does your erection change? Alexander.Tidusblitz
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Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Alexander.Tidusblitz said: Cerberus.Kalyna said: Alexander.Tidusblitz said: Name one good thing that obama has done. And by good, i mean good for at least 75% of the people it affects. Got rid of G.W. Bush And just like that, you make yourself sound ignorant. Not as ignorant as saying only something good for 75%+ of the population counts as an achievement. I didnt say of the population, i said of the people it affects. Lets use the healthcare bill as an example. (these are made up numbers) If it helps 37% of the people it affects, but hurts 63%...how is that a good thing? |
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