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 Odin.Eikechi
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-12-09 02:59:15
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Cerberus.Detzu said: »
Bismarck.Ocjp said: »
Iga Ningi +2 Body is better then Loki

( source DPS Excel Sheet )

Is your nin naked with only body equipped?
Iga ningi+2 is good for Migawari only.

I wouldn't go THAT far. Outside of abyssea it's not that bad if you don't have toci + oce+1 head.
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2012-12-09 03:16:32
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Cerberus.Detzu said: »
Isn't the crit rate on rancorous mantle 5% like rancor collar?
Why wouldn't you use atheling which has 3% DA and 20 att in combination with rancor collar?

Like other crit rate gear, it loses a lot of its value inside Abyssea so you can using Atheling inside.

Rancorous + Hope Torque beats Atheling + Rancor Collar outside, though. Up to you if you want to get a Rancorous just for this purpose since it has no function other than WS for NIN.
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-12-09 03:23:51
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Leviathan.Kincard said: »
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Isn't the crit rate on rancorous mantle 5% like rancor collar?
Why wouldn't you use atheling which has 3% DA and 20 att in combination with rancor collar?

Like other crit rate gear, it loses a lot of its value inside Abyssea so you can using Atheling inside.

Rancorous + Hope Torque beats Atheling + Rancor Collar outside, though. Up to you if you want to get a Rancorous just for this purpose since it has no function other than WS for NIN.

Rancor back is good for pup too. Just sayin' :P
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2012-12-09 03:30:50
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Oh yeah, it's good for DNC too (And Victory Smite/Ukko's Fury), I probably worded that wrong, I meant that for NIN, that's the only function it serves.
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By Bahamut.Relliik 2012-12-09 03:40:24
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Carbuncle.Burkey said: »
idonteven

but really, even if every other dd in the alliance is doing something wrong, they will out dd a nin (reso/shoha/ukko/smite/etc)

Not my nin.

Popular misconception though. I'd be happy to post a few parses with my ninja in VW smoking other dd's.
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By charlo999 2012-12-09 03:44:04
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Busy gearing up my nin atm. near finished my tp set apart from epona's.
But a little stuck on my ws set options till i get something better.
Can't see me getting a hope torque soon so is ranc back + Houyi's gorget better than any other options. I'm gearing for outside abyssea btw.
Also i have kudzu Aketon looks good stat wise for Hi without any crit though. Where does is come in body rankings?
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By Odin.Eikechi 2012-12-09 03:45:55
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charlo999 said: »
Busy gearing up my nin atm. near finished my tp set apart from epona's.
But a little stuck on my ws set options till i get something better.
Can't see me getting a hope torque soon so is ranc back + Houyi's gorget better than any other options. I'm gearing for outside abyssea btw.
Also i have kudzu Aketon looks good stat wise for Hi without any crit though. Where does is come in body rankings?

Behind Iga Ningi+2 I believe.
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2012-12-09 03:50:43
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Kudzu's not that great, yeah, Loki's beats it too. The only thing from VW other than Athos's that's somewhat good for Hi is Tessera Saio, but I doubt you're getting that thing before an Athos's. Houyi Gorget works pretty well, yeah, it's about on par with ele gorget outside though the gorget will probably win inside.
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2012-12-09 03:57:56
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charlo999 said: »
Busy gearing up my nin atm. near finished my tp set apart from epona's.
But a little stuck on my ws set options till i get something better.
Can't see me getting a hope torque soon so is ranc back + Houyi's gorget better than any other options. I'm gearing for outside abyssea btw.
Also i have kudzu Aketon looks good stat wise for Hi without any crit though. Where does is come in body rankings?

Somewhere between the dust and the trash for NIN. I use it on RDM melee though.
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By Sylph.Ice 2012-12-19 18:09:05
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Any suggestions for my Hi sets? Tessera/Tenryu +1 ain't happening.

Abyssea:

Outside:
 
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By Valefor.Ranulf 2012-12-19 18:57:45
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Abyssea (Valefor doesn't do Botulus Rex :<):


Outside (STR Katana):


Not really sure if using more Thaumas would warrant use for an outside set. Haidate augmented with +3% Crit. Damage, Kote augmented with +2% Crit. Rate.
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By Carbuncle.Pwnzone 2012-12-19 19:05:24
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I could be wrong, but i think its byakko's in abyssea & thaumas outside
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2012-12-20 00:59:59
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Yeah, crit damage +4% on the Byakko's would make it really good in Abyssea. Outside, it depends on where the 15 DEX puts you for dDEX. In like, Dynamis the Haidate would probably win.
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By charlo999 2012-12-20 05:05:07
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So i made more progress on my gear just thaumas feet to get for set and a few other bits. Got myself a loki's.
Just looking for the best set on ep nightmare mobs. After reading around looks like they have about 90 agi my current ws set has 139 dex so once i get the feet should cap my ddex for Hi.
Just checking if im aiming for ideal sets really for ep dynamis farming tp and ws (excluding legion stuff). So i can plan what to aim for next. Opinions?
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By Ragnarok.Ravant 2012-12-31 18:35:22
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Quick question. Ocelomeh Headpiece (NQ) or Anwig Salade with DEX4 AGI4 WS dmg 2% Crit dmg 2% for inside/out. Any other option is appreciated. I dont have Thaumas Head atm.
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2012-12-31 18:38:49
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Generally, Ocelomeh outside, Anwig inside.
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By Ragnarok.Ravant 2012-12-31 18:41:16
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Leviathan.Kincard said: »
Generally, Ocelomeh outside, Anwig inside.

Would it be a major difference? Trying to avoid having to carry both unless it's noticeable enough to keep.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-12-31 18:46:27
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Ragnarok.Ravant said: »
Leviathan.Kincard said: »
Generally, Ocelomeh outside, Anwig inside.

Would it be a major difference? Trying to avoid having to carry both unless it's noticeable enough to keep.
Don't carry the salade then. It's abyssea, and if you're having problems killing things in abyssea, the salade won't help you.
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2012-12-31 18:47:39
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Yeah I generally only focus on my outside set because I doubt anyone really cares that much about your inside Hi damage outside of "amg muh dmg" screenshots.
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By Ragnarok.Ravant 2012-12-31 18:49:52
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
Ragnarok.Ravant said: »
Leviathan.Kincard said: »
Generally, Ocelomeh outside, Anwig inside.

Would it be a major difference? Trying to avoid having to carry both unless it's noticeable enough to keep.
Don't carry the salade then. It's abyssea, and if you're having problems killing things in abyssea, the salade won't help you.

haha love the way you put that! Thanks guys Im just gonna keep Oce.
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By Lakshmi.Watusa 2013-01-07 20:52:06
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Inside Aby, Rancor Collar/Atheling's or Gorget(or whatever else)/Rancor Mantle?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Hyunkyl 2013-01-08 07:43:55
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Hope torque + Rancor mantle ;)
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By Bahamut.Illyst 2013-01-08 09:01:21
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Hows athos feet and body vs iga body n thaumas feet compare outside abyssea?
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By Lakshmi.Watusa 2013-01-08 10:14:15
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Quetzalcoatl.Hyunkyl said: »
Hope torque + Rancor mantle ;)

Houyi's just as good, or is the Katana skill really making that much of a difference?
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By Bahamut.Illyst 2013-01-08 11:17:13
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Katana skill adds attack and acc
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By Lakshmi.Watusa 2013-01-08 11:39:17
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Bahamut.Illyst said: »
Katana skill adds attack and acc

I know that, but I'm wondering if Houyi's +1AGI vs. +7attack is a sidegrade so I don't have to go Sea farming.
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By Bismarck.Amphion 2013-01-09 08:20:25
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Outside of Abby, is Iga body +2 > Athos body?
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2013-01-09 08:23:46
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I think athos body outperforms iga+2 outside abyssea.
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