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Anyone level 50?
Fenrir.Rinnsi
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By Fenrir.Rinnsi 2010-10-12 07:43:01
Saggitarius said: TheDubont said: I honestly don't think crafting should raise your physical level...that is 1) Completely broken 2) Completely cheap and 3) Going to create so many elitists...
If SE feels the need to feed crafters with even more ***, they should at least reduce the exp gained. People can easily level 3x as fast from just crafting as they can from doing leves/grinding mobs.. But as a crafter you can't really kill anything :( though we could make some wicked shurikens out of dodo leather and bronze ingots. physical level doesn't really seem to do much, other then giving some HP and stats. your job level is what seems to do everything. surethe extra levels help you with lower leveled stuff, but it's nmot like being physical 30, allowed you to jump into level 15 mobs with a level 1 class
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Phoenix.Katori
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By Phoenix.Katori 2010-10-12 09:06:43
but with plvl if you stack your points right it helps alot 2 vit is like 20 hp. so it helps in long run
it just improves your chances of beating that mob which is just a little bit harder
Leviathan.Yokhai
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By Leviathan.Yokhai 2010-10-12 09:28:28
Phoenix.Katori said: but with plvl if you stack your points right it helps alot 2 vit is like 20 hp. so it helps in long run
it just improves your chances of beating that mob which is just a little bit harder
Those points are capped on the rank you have. So they only help to a certain extent. Having an insanely high level means *** in battle if your highest rank is 10
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By Sylph.Pwrlessgirl 2010-10-12 09:49:24
The Physical level with the points Allotment did really helped me.
Last night I started Marauder job Rank 1, and physical 14. Also had Second Wind equiped from my PUG abilities so I fought non-stop and used it to heal myself + 800+ HP... I never needed to rest (passive mode) for 2+ hours.
Due to VIT points I already have on the physical. A new person who started last night in my server Figaro had 400HP whilst i had 810-890 as i added more VIT.
For this character (POWER NEXUS) I'll focus on STR DEX VIT, while my second account (NEXUS POWER) will focus on PIE INT MND and VIT to some extent.
See ya all in Figaro.
PWR!
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By Leviathan.Yokhai 2010-10-12 10:18:41
Sylph.Pwrlessgirl said: The Physical level with the points Allotment did really helped me.
Last night I started Marauder job Rank 1, and physical 14. Also had Second Wind equiped from my PUG abilities so I fought non-stop and used it to heal myself + 800+ HP... I never needed to rest (passive mode) for 2+ hours.
Due to VIT points I already have on the physical. A new person who started last night in my server Figaro had 400HP whilst i had 810-890 as i added more VIT.
For this character (POWER NEXUS) I'll focus on STR DEX VIT, while my second account (NEXUS POWER) will focus on PIE INT MND and VIT to some extent.
See ya all in Figaro.
PWR!
Wow i didnt realize it was that much, i retract my previous statement. The extra ablities is what really helps. having second wind cure and shock spikes make soloing bomb tastic. You can go none stop with a quick switch to Conj or Thurm to hit your MP recharge skill then switch back for full MP, its baller.
Stoneskin is a wast of MP on melee solo though, it only absorbs around 70-80 dmg for 12 mp while cure can heal for upwards of 190 for 12 mp. Just stick with cure and shockspikes and maybe sacrifice from your mage skills
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By Gilgamesh.Tirantus 2010-10-12 11:02:30
Fenrir.Rinnsi said: Saggitarius said: TheDubont said: I honestly don't think crafting should raise your physical level...that is 1) Completely broken 2) Completely cheap and 3) Going to create so many elitists...
If SE feels the need to feed crafters with even more ***, they should at least reduce the exp gained. People can easily level 3x as fast from just crafting as they can from doing leves/grinding mobs.. But as a crafter you can't really kill anything :( though we could make some wicked shurikens out of dodo leather and bronze ingots. physical level doesn't really seem to do much, other then giving some HP and stats. your job level is what seems to do everything. surethe extra levels help you with lower leveled stuff, but it's nmot like being physical 30, allowed you to jump into level 15 mobs with a level 1 class Yeah your plvl just seems to be a modifier for your rank. Kind of like having a heavily merited character in FFXI. Sure it helps as you're leveling a new class. But it's by no means game breaking.
My highest rank is a 19 Lancer, but my plvl is 24. I don't seen to have a noticably easier or harder time fighting things than another rank 19 with a lower or higher plvl than me.
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By Ramuh.Thunderz 2010-10-12 11:11:39
Fenrir.Rinnsi said: Saggitarius said: TheDubont said: I honestly don't think crafting should raise your physical level...that is 1) Completely broken 2) Completely cheap and 3) Going to create so many elitists...
If SE feels the need to feed crafters with even more ***, they should at least reduce the exp gained. People can easily level 3x as fast from just crafting as they can from doing leves/grinding mobs.. But as a crafter you can't really kill anything :( though we could make some wicked shurikens out of dodo leather and bronze ingots. physical level doesn't really seem to do much, other then giving some HP and stats. your job level is what seems to do everything. surethe extra levels help you with lower leveled stuff, but it's nmot like being physical 30, allowed you to jump into level 15 mobs with a level 1 class
I dont think this game needs some gimping
By AreeyaJaidee 2010-10-12 11:50:28
How about this: Stop complaining and start crafting.
All people do is complain in this game. Complaints are for the SE Suggestion/Feedback form. Be proactive, not the opposite.
Phoenix.Katori
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By Phoenix.Katori 2010-10-12 12:36:09
yea i have a buddy who is like 4 or 5 lvls higher then me and has over 600 hp on me becuase he is p lvl 30
By TheDubont 2010-10-12 12:47:10
AreeyaJaidee said: How about this: Stop complaining and start crafting.
All people do is complain in this game. Complaints are for the SE Suggestion/Feedback form. Be proactive, not the opposite. complaining about people complaining. You are part of the problem, not the solution
Idc that SE gives crafting xp for being lazy, they just shouldn't give them as much as they do. I know a guy that has 3 jobs. Blacksmith 22, Armorer 19 and Weaver 15. His physical level is around 38-39....I'm CON 14 (almost 15) GLD 6ish ARM 11 ...I'm barely level 17 and MOST of those levels were from ARM >.>
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By Fenrir.Scragg 2010-10-13 16:11:48
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By premiumvirtue 2010-10-13 16:36:28
They prolly 50 and lodestone not updated. Haha congrats on being the first
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By Fenrir.Scragg 2010-10-13 16:38:50
premiumvirtue said: They prolly 50 and lodestone not updated. Haha congrats on being the first
Good point, his exp is 373642 / 380000.
By premiumvirtue 2010-10-13 16:41:45
lodestone is like "MWUAHAH YOU'LL NEVER PROVE YOUR 50!....until tomorrow night >.>"
By Tesla 2010-10-13 16:55:41
Anyone hearing that? Did the "challenge" aspect people talk about in the FF online repertoire just fall flat? They took away the lucrative art of crafting and just made it into an exp tool. Reminds me of bard singing during campaign or smn burning.
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By Fenrir.Scragg 2010-10-13 17:18:06
By premiumvirtue 2010-10-13 17:23:25
hahah ding!
By Tesla 2010-10-13 17:26:24
Nice, now he can pump his char full of strength and start throwing rocks on his blacksmith.
By premiumvirtue 2010-10-13 18:08:08
http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/rc/character/status?cicuid=1174189
vs
http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/rc/character/status?cicuid=1371481
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2010-10-13 19:12:23
Hardly any Damage classes, mostly Crafting.
SE said challenge?
Psh, they just *** up.
Phoenix.Katori
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By Phoenix.Katori 2010-10-14 07:45:17
why crafter will own this game. becuse if you have right items or just buy them. you can craft all day while. lvling regular job you have to go find the mob and after almost dieing regain hp and fight again. 1 item 2k exp is crazy
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By Gilgamesh.Alyria 2010-10-14 07:53:51
I dunno, it's easy to get exp for PL, I say it counts when you have a class at 50 imo. When he levels a mage/war class then I'd be impressed..
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By Phoenix.Katori 2010-10-14 08:07:01
yea once we see the first lvl 50 war/mage class ill be like damn cngrats
By premiumvirtue 2010-10-14 08:44:51
Even though may not be impressed, he will be currently one of the most highest stat based on any class. Up until about rank 30 he will be capped on all stats, making him the best at his class on whatever class he plays, mechanic wise.
By TheDubont 2010-10-14 11:18:59
The crafter elitism has already started...had some rank 31 blacksmith calling me a noob (yea...already...) for my highest rank being 15...and then talked about how he was so much better.
I bet him that I could deal more damage and it became apparent, when he accepted my bet, that he had never played the combat portion of a job before...he actually went out and tried to kill things by throwing rocks at them...so we compared damage. His 1-2 damage rock throws vs my 200-300 Fires...<3 ***talkers.
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By Phoenix.Katori 2010-10-14 11:38:29
TheDubont said: The crafter elitism has already started...had some rank 31 blacksmith calling me a noob (yea...already...) for my highest rank being 15...and then talked about how he was so much better.
I bet him that I could deal more damage and it became apparent, when he accepted my bet, that he had never played the combat portion of a job before...he actually went out and tried to kill things by throwing rocks at them...so we compared damage. His 1-2 damage rock throws vs my 200-300 Fires...<3 ***talkers.
lmao it happens bro. some people are stuck up.
By premiumvirtue 2010-10-14 11:40:13
TheDubont said: The crafter elitism has already started...had some rank 31 blacksmith calling me a noob (yea...already...) for my highest rank being 15...and then talked about how he was so much better.
I bet him that I could deal more damage and it became apparent, when he accepted my bet, that he had never played the combat portion of a job before...he actually went out and tried to kill things by throwing rocks at them...so we compared damage. His 1-2 damage rock throws vs my 200-300 Fires...<3 ***talkers.
Sounds more like the guy was an idiot rather than ***talking.
By TheDubont 2010-10-14 11:41:54
premiumvirtue said: TheDubont said: The crafter elitism has already started...had some rank 31 blacksmith calling me a noob (yea...already...) for my highest rank being 15...and then talked about how he was so much better.
I bet him that I could deal more damage and it became apparent, when he accepted my bet, that he had never played the combat portion of a job before...he actually went out and tried to kill things by throwing rocks at them...so we compared damage. His 1-2 damage rock throws vs my 200-300 Fires...<3 ***talkers.
Sounds more like the guy was an idiot rather than ***talking. I do believe you are correct because once he saw that I could potentially 3 shot almost anything that conned green or lower, he disconnected >.>
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By Gilgamesh.Alyria 2010-10-14 12:37:46
yea when he can throw a rock and do 980 damage one shot then he can talk. i vow revenge on a toad poacher! i will get u....i will
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