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By Caitsith.Zefiris 2010-10-14 22:48:57
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Asura.Catastrophe said:
When you have full detestment from the entire Japanese gaming community and shareholders pulling out full quantities of stock because of 1 game.. it may need a little work.
That was genius. I love dramatic people. :3
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By Sylph.Limes 2010-10-15 00:00:54
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Sylph.Oddin said:
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1. Make a thread that says "Only people who like FFXIV can post"
2. Get mods to topic ban anyone who says it sucks.

Otherwise you will have people who say it sucks. I enjoy playing many games that people say are sucky. That's how it is with everything else in life.


Its not even that it just seems like bashing 14 is just the in thing to do atm especially when you have people who haven't even played it bashing every oppo they get its funny but sad...its just so obvious

Have you not read a single review posted by any one in this thread? Have you read a review at all on this game? Forum-goers aren't the only ones bashing this game. EVERYONE is bashing this game. The general opinion on this game right now is it sucks and has a LONG way to go before it'll be any good. Pretty graphics alone will not get you far.

I think what Anbu is referring to that there is a real lack of understanding right now between haters who have legit gripes about this game (actual 14 players) and retards who are just hating (everyone else).

Like you said EVERYONE is bashing this game, and just like you who had no clue what that quote was about, they have no clue about 14 (ie: haven't played it, or are loyal fanboys trying to measure their game to 14). Thats pretty much whats up w/ that dude...

kinda fail on your part
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By Sylph.Limes 2010-10-15 00:09:20
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then again this whole thread has turned to fail. XI players hating, WoW refugees hating. hating hate hate

:/ its sad

Caitsith.Zefiris said:
They're just games, play what makes you happy. :\

everyone should just do this ^
*** what everyone else says
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-10-15 00:48:33
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Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Jaerik should topicban Anbu.

yes

from every topic ever
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By Valefor.Shaone 2010-10-15 03:56:50
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Categorised wards are in! Wonder if that would have affected any review scores (<--afterthought to make it on topic)

(edit: lol@Chirurgeons den... had to look that up, Surgeons den would have been a bit easier... guess that's where you go to sell your kidneys)

(edit: nice, 2% tax rate on correct item for ward)
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By Caitsith.Jadi 2010-10-15 04:08:42
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Valefor.Shaone said:
Categorised wards are in! Wonder if that would have affected any review scores (<--afterthought to make it on topic)

(edit: lol@Chirurgeons den... had to look that up, Surgeons den would have been a bit easier... guess that's where you go to sell your kidneys)

(edit: nice, 2% tax rate on correct item for ward)

Unlikely.. It's still going to be more like caveman style barter than amazon.com.. now the cavemen just know where to go. SE needs to come clean about their mistakes start giving away free play to upset customers I think till they get it right.

I still think the games fun, got into a party the other night and it was a blast but they have too many problems and if they want to be an open and forthcoming company this is a great place to start.
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By Valefor.Shaone 2010-10-15 04:27:38
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It's a tricky one to get right, if they just do a blanket extension of the 30 day trial, that's going to be x million ¥ less money to pump into development (yes they could just run at deficit for longer, but that will still impact somewhere along the line) and there's still a good chance alot of people would still be unhappy after however many weeks they increase it by.

I think maybe instead, just let them go, and in a couple of months email all those who didn't stay on after the free period ended offering a 5 or 10 day welcome back trial so that they get hit with all the improvements at once.
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By Caitsith.Jadi 2010-10-15 04:31:11
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well the idea is they get more customers by doing it and overall make more money in the end. You make money by serving your customers and keeping them happy.
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By Valefor.Shaone 2010-10-15 05:55:03
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Yep I agree with you, free time is the way to go.

I was just suggesting that delaying the free time until after the major gripes are fixed and targetting those who were unhappy enough to leave after trial would be the best way to approach it, as a free week or two on a still broken game is less likely to convince people to continue/come back.

Personally, I'm happy enough with the rate of improvement to stay, but I do wonder how many people are going to, given how quickly the online player count dropped since release.
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By Phoenix.Katori 2010-10-15 08:49:44
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yea i did the benchmark test last night score 500 lol. and i have no lag in the game lol. but start grinding with ls members skill up are 10x better. and everytime they update the game gets that much better.

i may be a fanboi. but dont see me going to wow or ffxi and talking ***. and only reason im not playing at this moment is becuase i have a life and im deployed overseas and i cant spend every hour playing a game. but if i could i would be on it.

some people just need to grow up and stop being retard. if dont like the game it's yout opinion. we are people and we have the right to do what we want. and choice what we need to do.

and yes this is in on ffxiah becuase both the same site but also 2 different ones. if we post ffxiv pics on ffxiah you get mad so stick to your side and were stay to ours.

thank you and have a nice day.
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By Tesla 2010-10-15 10:14:33
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Phoenix.Katori said:
some people just need to grow up and stop being retard. if dont like the game it's yout opinion. we are people and we have the right to do what we want. and choice what we need to do.

Well, you can stop assuming people are trying to get you to stop playing what you want or thinking XI players are harassing XIV players, it's silly. Reviews are reviews, people aren't telling you to stop playing or "stop being retard".
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By Sylph.Belmonth 2010-10-15 10:21:37
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Tesla said:
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some people just need to grow up and stop being retard. if dont like the game it's yout opinion. we are people and we have the right to do what we want. and choice what we need to do.

Well, you can stop assuming people are trying to get you to stop playing what you want or thinking XI players are harassing XIV players, it's silly. Reviews are reviews, people aren't telling you to stop playing or "stop being retard".

Meh, there's a lot of FFXI angry people for some reason that try to keep you away from the game EVEN THOUGH they haven't played it.
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By Tesla 2010-10-15 10:35:53
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I play the game, and I make criticism on it. Only b/c I'm disappointed they didn't learn much from their first MMO, but I also want them to do well... but they really need to change some things apparently. (or revert some things over at HQ)
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By Leviathan.Anbu 2010-10-15 10:36:08
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8) Lets start the tardism for today...people must realize whenever threads like this are made it only leads to ***storms and will only fill up with youtube , umads, and other various pict response...basically this topic is made for trolls face it...
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By Tesla 2010-10-15 10:37:53
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Leviathan.Anbu said:
8) Lets start the tardism for today...people must realize whenever threads like this are made it only leads to ***storms and will only fill up with youtube , umads, and other various pict response...basically this topic is made for trolls face it...

What? Aren't you the only one that went the pics and youtube immaturity route yesterday?
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By Leviathan.Anbu 2010-10-15 10:44:54
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Tesla said:
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8) Lets start the tardism for today...people must realize whenever threads like this are made it only leads to ***storms and will only fill up with youtube , umads, and other various pict response...basically this topic is made for trolls face it...

What? Aren't you the only one that went the pics and youtube immaturity route yesterday?

Ex. you post the same thing over and over everyday...how many times are you going to post that the game sucks in the same thread...your trolling...difference between me and you is my trolls are more entertaining than yours...but seriously when ever some one new post to this thread any type of opinion good or bad the same 2-3 guys pop up with hate and start bashing...but mind you they just post the same ***they posted a few post b4...lol only thing your saying is your butthurt...now I'll just wait for the rate downs and fanboi remarks 8)

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By Sylph.Belmonth 2010-10-15 10:49:03
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Caitsith.Shiroi said:
Sylph.Belmonth said:
Tesla said:
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some people just need to grow up and stop being retard. if dont like the game it's yout opinion. we are people and we have the right to do what we want. and choice what we need to do.

Well, you can stop assuming people are trying to get you to stop playing what you want or thinking XI players are harassing XIV players, it's silly. Reviews are reviews, people aren't telling you to stop playing or "stop being retard".

Meh, there's a lot of FFXI angry people for some reason that try to keep you away from the game EVEN THOUGH they haven't played it.

Saying the game looks really bad from reviews is trying to force people out of that game?

Not really, I'm not saying this side does it, but the majority of other websites are filled with WoW trolls and angry FFXI people, though i'd say you shouldn't have in to comment or discuss trying to get people away from it if you haven't played it yourself, but it you have, then that's another story, complain, get angry, bash the game all you want, because your purchased it and have tried for yourself.
 
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By Sylph.Belmonth 2010-10-15 10:51:32
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Asura.Andevom said:
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Meh, there's a lot of FFXI angry people for some reason that try to keep you away from the game EVEN THOUGH they haven't played it.

I think the problem is that people are interpreting any form of criticism as "you're angry, you're a hater, you don't know what you're talking about, you don't play the game, you must be a WoW player."

So it's really just a whole bunch of assumptions based on the notion that anyone who played the game couldn't possibly hate it. And that somehow saying how much another game fails will somehow improve the quality of your game.

Yes, there are people who are going about the discussion all wrong on both sides. And obviously, people are going to be easier on others on their side and turn a blind eye.

There's no need for ad hominem attacking. But there's also no need to get overly defensive when someone offers criticism.

Like I said, not everyone is like that, but the majority is all like "This game sucks" "this game flops LOLOLOL" without adding any real criticism.
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By Tesla 2010-10-15 10:54:07
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Yeah, people thought the Umad pics and rap videos were entertaining. Do you talk about your time in FFXIV at your gang meetings with your fellow thugs?

I am mostly replying now to people like you. So you can stop if you want. It seems when I point out flaws in a game someone is playing, it somehow reflects flaws in themselves so they have to defend the indefensible. Even though I'm playing the same game...
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By Valefor.Shaone 2010-10-15 10:55:30
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Caitsith.Jadi said:
well the idea is they get more customers by doing it and overall make more money in the end. You make money by serving your customers and keeping them happy.
Looks like they were listening to you :D

30 days extension, I wasn't even considering they'd go that far. That actually is a decent enough amount of time to get alot resolved, lets hope it's enough to convince people it's going to get better, fast.
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By Valefor.Shaone 2010-10-15 11:01:36
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Caitsith.Shiroi said:
I thought they were too arrogant to do that.
And I thought they were losing too much money :D
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By Leviathan.Anbu 2010-10-15 11:04:35
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Yeah, people thought the Umad pics and rap videos were entertaining. Do you talk about your time in FFXIV at your gang meetings with your fellow thugs?

I am mostly replying now to people like you. So you can stop if you want. It seems when I point out flaws in a game someone is playing, it somehow reflects flaws in themselves so they have to defend the indefensible. Even though I'm playing the same game...

Actually the umads concept come from posters on here and I don't understand how thats gang related in any way...the rap song I posted is about "people hating" on you...again no gang/thug related material...hmm do I detect a hint of racism...just sayin'
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By Leviathan.Anbu 2010-10-15 11:06:03
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Valefor.Shaone said:
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well the idea is they get more customers by doing it and overall make more money in the end. You make money by serving your customers and keeping them happy.
Looks like they were listening to you :D

30 days extension, I wasn't even considering they'd go that far. That actually is a decent enough amount of time to get alot resolved, lets hope it's enough to convince people it's going to get better, fast.

People are going to find some way to QQ about this too...
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