God Did Not Create The Universe, Says Hawking

He didn't correct you by saying the Earth rotates, him using the word "rotate" was just a mistake. Anyone with reading comprehension skills knows he was calling you stupid for thinking that the SUN is the cause of the law "gravity."
Edited for moar mistakes.

Still does not state how god can not exist.

There are 2 explanations today.

1. Universe began as a close to infinitely small and dense point. It started expanding, in an explosion because the matter density was so great. After several billions of years, matter particles will collect together forming galaxies, we'll call them universal revolvers. Everything revolves around something. The reason a (super massive) black hole stands apart from all the other ones is the universe is proven to be continually expanding. So clusters of matter will join with the largest cluster of matter it can reach.

2. Two Universal branes (sheets of negative energy) collided together causing the big bang. And 2 universes were created, one in each brane from the point of collision. This is string theory since it goes beyond the 4 dimensions we're aware of, I won't get into it too much since we're still analyzing data from the new Microwave emission satellite we just launched.

guys,
open a science book,
read about gravity
come here
and post what you learned.

kthx.

What is god then?

You didn't just do that. ):

lmao XD

For some reason, we humans seem to implicitly understand that the burden of proof of a statement is always on the positive assertion.

That is, if you make any claim, the default view is that it's false and you need to prove that it's true. You don't get to assume it's true, and defend it by saying "Well you can't prove it isn't." If I, as a source of pseudo-authority on this forum, said "Because I can't prove any of you aren't trying to hack me, you're all banned," you would be rightly upset.

It's completely ridiculous. Nothing works that way.

Yet for some reason, we're completely willing to employ this bogus reasoning on the subject of religion, and religion only.

I can sure as hell explain the universe and why it exists and even explain why there are several other universes.

But yet, a "believer" can't explain what god is.

I've called myself agnostic for a long time, just because it seemed to be the most diplomatic approach. I'm not going to believe that god exists, but since no one knows for 100% absolute positive sure, I didn't want to say I do not believe. In all actuality, after having grown up in a very strict Christian household and then turned away in 'rebellion from God' and deciding to figure out what I believe on my own, I'm really at more of an 'I don't care' point in my life. I don't believe god exists. I'm not going to believe god exists later. I don't care if you do. It's not something that I think about or that concerns me. So, I think for me, personally, the better word to describe me is going to have to be non-religious.

But what I truly think is that people are allowed to believe whatever they want here. If you want to believe in the Flying Spaghetti God, you do that. Just don't expect everyone else to do the same. If you want to believe that Santa Clause married the Easter Bunny and they changed their names to Brad and Angie to hide it, you do that. But don't expect me to. That's all. Just respect that other people don't believe the same as you.

It doesn't matter that this subforum has nothing to do with the game. We are talking about perception here.

The other poster said that the stereotype of Atheists is created solely by theists. I disagree.

I used this thread as an example.

Wether or not it was appropriate to make this thread here is meaningless when it comes to perception by others.

Do not pull that from wiki explaining you are smart. If you knew anything about science you could have explained it with out using google.

Santa, god, curious george are all thoughts created by humans.

They exist as "thoughts".

When we use the word exist, we imply the meaning of exist in the physical universe as energy or matter.

And no, god is not energy or matter.

Unless someone can tell me what type of energy, negative energy, matter or antimatter this "god" is.

Stanflame, stop posting from EtienneLoire, it makes you sound french and ridiculous.

Agreed, yet many people do it with scientific theory as well.

You just opened a can of worms right there, my friend. =.=

I have a degree in particle physics, I don't need Google or Wiki to explain myself.

Tough you need Wiki or Google to explain what god is, and still can't get very far.

A maximally great being that exists outside of our universe with the ability to interact with this universe in any way it chooses.

I think that would probably be a fairly accurate description of what many people believe God to be.

Coming from a very religious family, I have noticed this, as well. My parents are very intelligent people, and yet, when it comes down to it, they fall back on the, "Well, you can't prove god DOESN'T exist"...and I guess it works, because it always shuts me up, LOL...unfortunately, they seem impervious to the utter lack of logic of what they're saying. 8(

Edited to add: I think this probably comes from the fact that a belief in a god is so utterly ingrained into the human psyche, that it ends up as a "given", rather like the existence of the sun. It would be asinine to argue against the existence of the sun, and to some people, it's equally ridiculous to argue against the existence of a divine being.

If that's the case, according to string theory, the 5th dimension will be labeled as "god".

Sup Bart =P