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By Cerberus.Superman 2010-09-02 19:21:15
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i have a ? for him if Gravity made self creaton what created the Gravity? his anwsers just leads to more questions. so it proves he does not know ***but just another perons looking to be in the books with his name as GOD killer lol.




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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-09-02 19:22:23
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By Bismarck.Magnumatic 2010-09-02 19:22:30
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Lakshmi.Glaciont said:
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When someone decides to make a religious thread on a video game forum, specifically to promote their disbelief it does nothing to promote a positive image of Atheists.
That would work if I was an atheist. This is also the religion and politics section of the video game forum you ***.
positive image of atheists? LOLOLOLOL

POSITIVE PICTURE OF WHAT THEISTS DO BEST!
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By Asura.Meowzma 2010-09-02 19:24:01
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I heard Steven uses the voice of Microsoft Anna in chat rooms.
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By Saiii 2010-09-02 19:24:06
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Cerberus.Superman said:
i have a ? for him if Gravity made self creaton what created the Gravity? his anwsers just leads to more questions. so it proves he does not know ***but just another perons looking to be in the books with his name as GOD killer lol.




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Umm. Gravity isn't "made". It's a law of physics that describes reality and how different bodies in reality relate to each other.

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By Caitsith.Silvaria 2010-09-02 19:24:48
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Lakshmi.Glaciont said:
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Here we go... do we really need to debate this with Stephen Hawking? Just cause he has a TV series on DISCOVERY, closely resembling SHARK WEEK... doesn't mean he can act all-knowing...

example... I disproved his time travel isn't possible theory while eating a subway sandwich...

It's a peculiar thing, how people react to Stephen Hawking's statements. Half of what he proposes is still anecdotal theory and assumption. Best guess given what we have to work with.

He can also say something 4 years ago, say it again later and people think it's brand new and his position has changed.

(See: His statement warning about contacting alien life forms, them coming to earth being like Columbus to the new world. [he said this a few years ago and again this last year and people went batshit like it was new. lol])


yea.... I don't know why people are going crazy about it now... probably cause he has a TV show. I never really took some of his theories seriously, and to say that the universe was a "consequence of physics" makes me feel like I was a mistake ; ;.

As for me... I always tell people that there are somethings you can explain with science, and some things that can't. ^^ Hence being agnostic

Agreed. Some theists try to argue the strawman that atheists in general worship science...not true. There are a number of things that science simply can't explain, just as there are a number of things that religion can't explain with anything other than, "God did it"...I'm agnostic because I simply don't know, and I'm intellectually honest enough to freely admit it. 8)
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By Leviathan.Dissonant 2010-09-02 19:24:54
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Saiii said:
Cerberus.Superman said:
i have a ? for him if Gravity made self creaton what created the Gravity? his anwsers just leads to more questions. so it proves he does not know ***but just another perons looking to be in the books with his name as GOD killer lol.




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Umm. Gravity isn't "made". It's a law of physics that describes reality and how different bodies in reality relate to each other.

Man discovered the laws, what put them in place? That's his question.
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By Leviathan.Dissonant 2010-09-02 19:26:11
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Bismarck.Magnumatic said:
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positive image of atheists? LOLOLOLOL

POSITIVE PICTURE OF WHAT THEISTS DO BEST!

ITT: People make generalizations.

EDIT: OH, GOD EVERYTHING IS SO HUGE
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By Bismarck.Magnumatic 2010-09-02 19:26:39
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Leviathan.Dissonant said:
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i have a ? for him if Gravity made self creaton what created the Gravity? his anwsers just leads to more questions. so it proves he does not know ***but just another perons looking to be in the books with his name as GOD killer lol. ding new page
Umm. Gravity isn't "made". It's a law of physics that describes reality and how different bodies in reality relate to each other.
Man discovered the laws, what put them in place? That's his question.

What put gravity in to place?

The Earth's natural revolvement around the sun >_>

Not god ...
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By Lakshmi.Glaciont 2010-09-02 19:26:48
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Leviathan.Dissonant said:
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Cerberus.Superman said:
i have a ? for him if Gravity made self creaton what created the Gravity? his anwsers just leads to more questions. so it proves he does not know ***but just another perons looking to be in the books with his name as GOD killer lol.




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Umm. Gravity isn't "made". It's a law of physics that describes reality and how different bodies in reality relate to each other.

Man discovered the laws, what put them in place? That's his question.

All it took was a *** APPLE D:!!
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By EtienneLoire 2010-09-02 19:27:13
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i have a ? for him if Gravity made self creaton what created the Gravity? his anwsers just leads to more questions. so it proves he does not know ***but just another perons looking to be in the books with his name as GOD killer lol.




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Scientists, physicist, etc will never know how the universe is created. There are a lot of flaws, his name is indeed just famous just because it is does not mean he is right or wrong.
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By Unicorn.Mireillechan 2010-09-02 19:27:17
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I heard Steven uses the voice of Microsoft Anna in chat rooms.
Creepy o.o;;
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By Leviathan.Dissonant 2010-09-02 19:27:18
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Bismarck.Magnumatic said:
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i have a ? for him if Gravity made self creaton what created the Gravity? his anwsers just leads to more questions. so it proves he does not know ***but just another perons looking to be in the books with his name as GOD killer lol. ding new page
Umm. Gravity isn't "made". It's a law of physics that describes reality and how different bodies in reality relate to each other.
Man discovered the laws, what put them in place? That's his question.

What put gravity in to place?

The Earth's natural revolvement around the sun >_>

Not god ...
But Hawkings argues that GRAVITY made the Big Bang happen. durrrrr
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By Lakshmi.Glaciont 2010-09-02 19:27:24
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Bismarck.Magnumatic said:
Leviathan.Dissonant said:
Saiii said:
Cerberus.Superman said:
i have a ? for him if Gravity made self creaton what created the Gravity? his anwsers just leads to more questions. so it proves he does not know ***but just another perons looking to be in the books with his name as GOD killer lol. ding new page
Umm. Gravity isn't "made". It's a law of physics that describes reality and how different bodies in reality relate to each other.
Man discovered the laws, what put them in place? That's his question.

What put gravity in to place?

The Earth's natural revolvement around the sun >_>

Not god ...

and what does the sun revolve around huuuh?
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By Saiii 2010-09-02 19:27:52
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Bismarck.Magnumatic said:
Leviathan.Dissonant said:
Saiii said:
Cerberus.Superman said:
i have a ? for him if Gravity made self creaton what created the Gravity? his anwsers just leads to more questions. so it proves he does not know ***but just another perons looking to be in the books with his name as GOD killer lol. ding new page
Umm. Gravity isn't "made". It's a law of physics that describes reality and how different bodies in reality relate to each other.
Man discovered the laws, what put them in place? That's his question.

What put gravity in to place?

The Earth's natural revolvement around the sun >_>

Not god ...

lol wat.

Sorry, but the Earth's rotation around the Sun is not the cause of gravity.
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By Lakshmi.Glaciont 2010-09-02 19:28:21
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I heard Steven uses the voice of Microsoft Anna in chat rooms.
Creepy o.o;;

You. Want. To. Have. Some. Boom. Sha-ka.la-ka. Boom. Sha-ka.la-ka...... Boom. Sha-ka.la-ka.
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By Saiii 2010-09-02 19:28:21
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Lakshmi.Glaciont said:
Bismarck.Magnumatic said:
Leviathan.Dissonant said:
Saiii said:
Cerberus.Superman said:
i have a ? for him if Gravity made self creaton what created the Gravity? his anwsers just leads to more questions. so it proves he does not know ***but just another perons looking to be in the books with his name as GOD killer lol. ding new page
Umm. Gravity isn't "made". It's a law of physics that describes reality and how different bodies in reality relate to each other.
Man discovered the laws, what put them in place? That's his question.

What put gravity in to place?

The Earth's natural revolvement around the sun >_>

Not god ...

and what does the sun revolve around huuuh?

The super massive black hole at the center of the Milky way.
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-09-02 19:29:29
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Thing is, scientific theory will always give us a more realistic and projected probability of outcome/truth than resorting to faith in an ancient tome ever will.
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By Saiii 2010-09-02 19:31:08
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Fenrir.Tool said:
Thing is, scientific theory will always give us a more realistic and projected probability of outcome/truth than resorting to faith in an ancient tome ever will.

This depends on the question.

Science is very good at explaining the observable.

Science is very poor at explaining the unobservable and the irrational.
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By Siren.Flunklesnarkin 2010-09-02 19:31:21
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SCIENCE BE PRAISED :O!
 
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By Lakshmi.Glaciont 2010-09-02 19:31:39
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Saiii said:
Lakshmi.Glaciont said:
Bismarck.Magnumatic said:
Leviathan.Dissonant said:
Saiii said:
Cerberus.Superman said:
i have a ? for him if Gravity made self creaton what created the Gravity? his anwsers just leads to more questions. so it proves he does not know ***but just another perons looking to be in the books with his name as GOD killer lol. ding new page
Umm. Gravity isn't "made". It's a law of physics that describes reality and how different bodies in reality relate to each other.
Man discovered the laws, what put them in place? That's his question.

What put gravity in to place?

The Earth's natural revolvement around the sun >_>

Not god ...

and what does the sun revolve around huuuh?

The super massive black hole at the center of the Milky way.

OH! So how do you explain the exist of a black hole!?

"It's just there.... slowly consuming all life"

?
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By Bismarck.Magnumatic 2010-09-02 19:32:26
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lol wat. Sorry, but the Earth's rotation around the Sun is not the cause of gravity.

Damn you're stupid :(

The Earth "Rotates" or spins on its axis.....

The Earth Revolves or Orbits around the sun.....

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By Leviathan.Dissonant 2010-09-02 19:34:07
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lol wat. Sorry, but the Earth's rotation around the Sun is not the cause of gravity.

Damn you're stupid :(

The Earth "Rotates" or spins on its axis.....

The Earth Revolves or Orbits around the sun.....

u trollin?
 
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-09-02 19:36:31
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Thing is, scientific theory will always give us a more realistic and projected probability of outcome/truth than resorting to faith in an ancient tome ever will.

This depends on the question.

Science is very good at explaining the observable.

Science is very poor at explaining the unobservable and the irrational.

There will always be things that exist beyond our line observation or logic, however, I honestly don't see how religion can be a reasonable alternative.
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By Bismarck.Magnumatic 2010-09-02 19:37:01
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lol wat. Sorry, but the Earth's rotation around the Sun is not the cause of gravity.
Damn you're stupid :( The Earth "Rotates" or spins on its axis..... The Earth Revolves or Orbits around the sun.....
u trollin?

No.

He corrected what I said.

I said the Earth revolves around the sun..

He corrected me by saying that it rotates around the sun ; ;
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By Caitsith.Silvaria 2010-09-02 19:37:18
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Asura.Bartimaeus said:
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i have a ? for him if Gravity made self creaton what created the Gravity? his anwsers just leads to more questions. so it proves he does not know ***but just another perons looking to be in the books with his name as GOD killer lol.




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Umm. Gravity isn't "made". It's a law of physics that describes reality and how different bodies in reality relate to each other.


And what's at the center of that?

This is constantly where Science stutters, stops and fails in explanation. "Just is" becomes an acceptable answer, which is just so so so ironic.

Indeed. It's the scientific equivalent of, "God did it, I believe it, that settles it." 8(
 
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Lakshmi.Glaciont said:
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Lakshmi.Glaciont said:
Bismarck.Magnumatic said:
Leviathan.Dissonant said:
Saiii said:
Cerberus.Superman said:
i have a ? for him if Gravity made self creaton what created the Gravity? his anwsers just leads to more questions. so it proves he does not know ***but just another perons looking to be in the books with his name as GOD killer lol. ding new page
Umm. Gravity isn't "made". It's a law of physics that describes reality and how different bodies in reality relate to each other.
Man discovered the laws, what put them in place? That's his question.

What put gravity in to place?

The Earth's natural revolvement around the sun >_>

Not god ...

and what does the sun revolve around huuuh?

The super massive black hole at the center of the Milky way.

OH! So how do you explain the exist of a black hole!?

"It's just there.... slowly consuming all life"

?

This isn't some kind of hidden knowledge. A black hole is simply a point in space that matter has compacted so tightly and has such extreme gravity that light is unable to escape it.

I believe a black hole can be created by a star collapsing on itself. I may be wrong here, but I think I remember correctly.

I do not know if this is the way a super massive black hole is created.
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