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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-09-02 23:37:42
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This thread had potential, and was interesting when Saii was posting as well as Prince.

I enjoy a good debate, gj Spicy.

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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-09-02 23:44:26
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Well I wasn't going to share my views originally, but I actually didn't get flamed when I did.

gg internetz.
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By Ragnarok.Psyence 2010-09-02 23:46:22
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@Spicyran

Here's a little theory about these threads:

Many would argue that they barely do anything... They're long, imperfect, nearly useless... Maybe these haters are right... and yet... if you understand the basic process of evolution... you know it's 99.99% "nothing important happening" and you throw in little bits of improvements here and there over huge periods of time... Over time, life ends up progressing. People and things appear and disappear, their ideas improve. They do so because they don't have a choice if they want to keep existing. The only reason everything's been moving so fast lately is because we came up with science, and we both know what science does: it questions...

One "religion vs atheism" thread will not determine mankind's future but when you think about it, 20 years ago, these kind of conversations didn't even exist... It's not that they were forbidden, they just weren't possible yet. We're part of something so big we can hardly imagine its size... Something a lot bigger than any god could ever be, no matter what funky character we manage to come up with. And we cannot escape being part of that selective process. It's always been like that, and it's never going to stop. Evolution isn't positive for everyone, but it does what it does: it blindly discriminates. We're the end result yet we all have a role to play.
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By Lakshmi.Ricco 2010-09-03 00:05:40
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Bismarck.Magnumatic said:
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
God on the money is still needless and *** obnoxious anyway.

It's so they can rub it in our faces.

OBVIOUSLY...

Well fun fact for the day we only added this on money during the cold war to pretty much say we were > russia.
Federal endorsement of a deity or religion violates the constition :)
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2010-09-03 00:11:30
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Hmmm? returned. sup people because I am back.
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By Phoenix.Esaias 2010-09-03 00:27:20
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Proverbs 1:5-7 (King James Version)

5A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels:

6To understand a proverb, and the interpretation; the words of the wise, and their dark sayings.

7The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.



Psalm 53:1
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Look I can quote too, but at least my source is reliable
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2010-09-03 00:42:55
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Phoenix.Esaias said:
Proverbs 1:5-7 (King James Version)

5A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels:

6To understand a proverb, and the interpretation; the words of the wise, and their dark sayings.

7The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.



Psalm 53:1
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Look I can quote too, but at least my source is reliable

Why rate him down?

I fixed your rating man it is back to zero, he just posted a belief, why not post in the thread and counter said belief?
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By Phoenix.Esaias 2010-09-03 00:47:07
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who what?
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By Ragnarok.Psyence 2010-09-03 00:49:03
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1: Because his belief is outdated and ridiculous.

2: Because he doesn't know it's a belief. He thinks it's a fact.

P.S. I didn't rate him down... lol
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2010-09-03 00:53:07
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Ragnarok.Psyence said:
1: Because his belief is outdated and ridiculous.

2: Because he doesn't know it's a belief. He thinks it's a fact.

P.S. I didn't rate him down... lol

1. He has a right if he is a theist to believe in what he wants, it is his freedom of speech.

2. you are a atheist as you have your right to freedom of speech.

3. There is no point /thread.

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Phoenix.Esaias said:
Proverbs 1:5-7 (King James Version)

5A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels:

6To understand a proverb, and the interpretation; the words of the wise, and their dark sayings.

7The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.



Psalm 53:1
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Look I can quote too, but at least my source is reliable

No wonder religious people are so discombobulated and absent from real life. They grow up immersed with this ***!
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-09-03 00:54:02
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lol the bible is only an interpretation. don't take it so literal~!
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By Leviathan.Dissonant 2010-09-03 00:56:19
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Ragnarok.Psyence said:
1: Because his belief is outdated and ridiculous.

2: Because he doesn't know it's a belief. He thinks it's a fact.

P.S. I didn't rate him down... lol
Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury said:
No wonder religious people are so discombobulated and absent from real life. They grow up immersed with this ***!
Whether or not you agree with him, there is no reason to ridicule anyone's beliefs on this subject.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-09-03 00:56:56
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Phoenix.Esaias said:
Proverbs 1:5-7 (King James Version) 5A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels: 6To understand a proverb, and the interpretation; the words of the wise, and their dark sayings. 7The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction. Psalm 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good. Look I can quote too, but at least my source is reliable
Where is this so called reliable source you speak of?
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2010-09-03 00:56:57
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Leviathan.Dissonant said:
Ragnarok.Psyence said:
1: Because his belief is outdated and ridiculous.

2: Because he doesn't know it's a belief. He thinks it's a fact.

P.S. I didn't rate him down... lol
Whether or not you agree with him, there is no reason to ridicule anyone's beliefs on this subject.
 
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Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Hating religion and/or being atheist is what all the cool kids are doing nowadays is all I got out of back-reading and some Stan-bashing lol.

GOGO page 30?

me bashed? nah..
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Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Hating religion and/or being atheist is what all the cool kids are doing nowadays is all I got out of the back reads and some Stan-bashing lol.
Nyeh...more like being inconsiderate and thinking you are more enlightened than others because you have an opinion that's "against the grain."
 
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By Phoenix.Smileybone 2010-09-03 01:01:45
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Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
In before flame war.
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Lakshmi.Mabrook said:

The thread was pretty much over on the first page.
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Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Okay not you sorry, your twin got bashed like mash potatoes; that sound better?

Bashed for what? bashed by the pathetic people who probably are regressed human fecal matter in real life who can not tell left from right?

That I can run laps around, carry on.
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2010-09-03 01:03:41
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Ragnarok.Psyence said:
@Spicyran

Here's a little theory about these threads:

Many would argue that they barely do anything... They're long, imperfect, nearly useless... Maybe these haters are right... and yet... if you understand the basic process of evolution... you know it's 99.99% "nothing important happening" and you throw in little bits of improvements here and there over huge periods of time... Over time, life ends up progressing. People and things appear and disappear, their ideas improve. They do so because they don't have a choice if they want to keep existing. The only reason everything's been moving so fast lately is because we came up with science, and we both know what science does: it questions...

One "religion vs atheism" thread will not determine mankind's future but when you think about it, 20 years ago, these kind of conversations didn't even exist... It's not that they were forbidden, they just weren't possible yet. We're part of something so big we can hardly imagine its size... Something a lot bigger than any god could ever be, no matter what funky character we manage to come up with. And we cannot escape being part of that selective process. It's always been like that, and it's never going to stop. Evolution isn't positive for everyone, but it does what it does: it blindly discriminates. We're the end result yet we all have a role to play.

Impressive, and well-stated. I applaud you.
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Phoenix.Smileybone said:
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I do like debates, though
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