Haste Vs. Accuracy Endgame

Basically, you're asking me to do the calculations for you. Why should I? You're smart, you know the basic fundamentals of the game, right? Should be a snap for you.

Here, I'll help a little. I'll link you to a site that's helpful for figuring this kind of stuff out.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Main_Page


And here come the smiley faces. You know, that thing that you throw out at random places when you realize you're at the end of your rope.

Next you're going to tell me that you're really enjoying this, and it was just for fun anyways. 'IT'S ONLY THE INTERNET GUIZES, HAVE FUN!!' is the typical response I get.

Man, you got me bub. And you cleverly decided to pop my top 6 pages after it started. Right when I have you at a dead end too! How cunning of you.

Seriously though, there's only two conclusions to this long, drawn out thread. You follow through and how me how inferior P.harpe/Blau is ...or you don't, and give up.

Or you can pull the lolguysjustkidding! routine. It's up to you.

More assumptions, I see. Hypocrite much? Again, I'm claiming they're not the same and you are claiming against it.

I've done enough, like I already said. Feel free to say as you wish or bait as you may. As I said, this is drawn out as long as I want it to be and at this point, it's over. We went from your saying that the two are equal based solely on DoT, didn't account for fstr, nor ws damage at all, to the detailed math I've posted.

Anyone who reads this thread will know you don't know wtf you're talking about and if you're going to give advice in the future, hopefully they'll double check it on a more reliable source.

If he doesn't realize the whole lolPharpe point I doubt he'll realize that...

Hope you enjoyed it. I haven't done something like that in a long time.

Sure thing. Difference of 1STR is maybe 2-5 damage. The difference of 2 enfeebling skill could be the difference between your slow/paralyze/bind/gravity landing and being resisted. In certain fights(cerb, khim, tier4 vnm, and so forth) they can mean the difference between your alliance winning and wiping. On another character, I have the absolute best gear possible for landing enfeebles(bar some HQs....because Mandau!) and even I get resisted more than I like on certain things.

Actually. If there is one thing I'm tired of from you Ihina, is your complete unwillingness to give up information or try to prove your case.

Tigerwoods has tried to use math to show that you are(or are not) in error. The formula is missing information, and cannot be completed. He asked for gear sets, not for you to do the math. Is it so hard to just post some gear sets to use?

Yet still, you keep saying things like: "You're asking me to do the the math?" or "Go to ffxiclopedia and put the [unknown] numbers into the formulae there!"

This arguement is just words. There is no math to back it up, and thus it is nothing but opinion. Opinions are pointless, please provide math. If you are unwilling to provide math please SHUT THE **** UP.

On another note, Tigerwoods. If I were to provide a few gearsets for THF with the two dagger combos, could you do the math to really put the nail in the coffin?

It was the best verbal ping-pong match ever!
Please, retire from ping-pong.

I enjoyed it quite a it, actually. Slyph sucks for lfp, it's been hours, but got a pt invite about 20 mins ago and we're getting ready to start now, so yay

You like throwing around words like that huh? Assumptions...hypocrite....the more you fill your post with them, the better your argument sounds!

Here's something you might wanna try though, try telling me where I'm assuming or being a hypocrite so I can correct you(I'm not even going to say that I'll correct myself since that simply won't be the case given how this thread as turned out)

So basically, you're going to give up.

You started by saying lolpharpe, and you were sooo adamant about it too. I asked for math and you were sooo eager to prove me wrong. And then when you realized it was too hard, you gave up. As i recall, this is your conclusion:

Well spit on my neck and call me uncle, that looks pretty inconclusive to me! You CAN compare speed because you have everything you need. You just won't do it cause it's too hard for you, even if all you're doing in plugging in numbers in a formula that can be found on FFXIwiki and applying basic fundamentals to it.

Lolz no. They have roughly the same DoT. The increased WS frequency you get from Blau/Sirocco can be countered by the increased WS damage. You can go back and check if you want, that's just what I said.

What? You want me to prove it? Why should I? Need I remind you, again, you're the one getting on my case, remember? The burden of proof states that YOU need to show proof. All you've done the past three posts was ask me to do the math for you.

Comon now, really? Don't run away now, this could be so much more fun.



Called it, didn't I? See:


Typical response from a typical person who found himself in a digging his own grave.

By the way, if Tigerwoods is retreating with his tail between his legs, any of you guys sitting on the sidelines want to jump in?

Sure, I'd like you to jump in for me. Go ahead, finish it off.

As I told you, I've been in full control this entire time. Your feeble attempts at baiting me back in, you're going to have to try a tad harder.

anyone even checked my math? lolz

Blau/SK certainly won there!

Ihina, you should meet Daleterrence's mule. I'm sure you have a lot in common.

Asked you for gear sets 5 or 6 times, you declined. Your fault, sorry.

No mang! I has been in controls the whole tiem! You can't full me!

Not likely.

C'mon try harder!

And I've stated multiple times that gear set doesn't matter and I've already explained why, all of which you ignored. Haste, double attack and triple attack affect both dagger sets equally. Store tp doesn't matter as far as forming a hit-build because TP return on WSs vary. Alot. All you have to do is to take it all into consideration when making your calculations. Far as DW goes, all you have to do is differentiate one piece. It's hard as as tweaking one number.

It's not that hard. There's nothing you should be complaining about.

Do eet you poopy head! And move smiley faces so show that you're enjoying this!

I cracked up on the first sentence.

Already explained why you were wrong on the store tp, try again. Haste, never refuted it. DA/TA, never refuted it, ect. now you're making points that I never disagreed with to begin with.

Didn't he say take the average? Dodging bullets left and right...

If store TP was so pointless, why the hell do you even wear skadi chausses? Because someone told you they were the best? If that's how it worked, I'd be working my *** off to get a lolridill, or worse Trashkar Zuchetto.

Careful, juicy might lead out.

Gear set doesn't matter when comparing two sets of daggers against each other since you're just dividing them by the same ratio. The only thing that does matter is DW since it changes the tp/hit, since the lower your delay, the higher the tp/delay since it curves up. I've already noted this and offered a remedy to.

ITT stp gear doesn't change your tp/hit

stp matters though. Actually Pharpe/blau is favored by it with 13 stp from skadi rajas and brutal.
4.7 is the tp/hit of P/B (got tired of typing the whole name)
4.7*1.13 = 5.311

B/S tp/hit:
4.5*1.13 = 5.085

So B/S looses 0.085 tp from truncation and P/B loose 0.011.

What's funny is even if I did math it out, he'd have found some other *** to follow.

WHAT ABOUT A SITUATION THAT DOESN'T FAVOR BLAU/SIROCCO! USE MINIMUM STORE TP WITH IT AND MAX WITH PHARP