Random Politics & Religion #24
Random Politics & Religion #24
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Well, Comey managed to successfully turn CNN against the WaPo temporarily. That's pretty funny. They'll all be unifying their narratives in no time anyway, flatly ignoring all the damaging bits and focusing on Comey calling Trump a liar, because that's all they've got out of this.
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To be honest, those memos of Comey's isn't classified. Just CYA.
So, it's not like Comey broke the Espionage Act.
So, it's not like Comey broke the Espionage Act.
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On a scale from 1-10, how done is Drumpf?
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He is the Teflon Don though !
Think about this, instead pf reporting to the DOJ this "obstruction" Comey instead choose to leak it to the press!
The swamp cannot be drained fast enough. Full speed ahead!
The swamp cannot be drained fast enough. Full speed ahead!
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Keep trying to drain the swamp but it just keeps getting deeper !
When you have doubts about the FBI director you know the government is ***.
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fonewear said: »
When you have doubts about the FBI director you know the government is ***.
Good thing we're getting a new one.
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Just in case any deniers decided to show up
So, any "analysis" or reports that says otherwise, well, is detached from reality.
What says you, the 3 reality deniers?
Quote:
BURR: Director Comey, did the president at any time ask you to stop the FBI investigation into Russian involvement in the 2016 U.S. Elections?
COMEY: Not to my understanding, no.
COMEY: Not to my understanding, no.
So, any "analysis" or reports that says otherwise, well, is detached from reality.
What says you, the 3 reality deniers?
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Also:
Quote:
BURR: Did any individual working for this administration, including the justice department, ask you to stop the Russian investigation?
COMEY: No.
COMEY: No.
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And just to be clear:
Quote:
RISCH: Thank you. All right. So those three things we now know regarding the active measures, whether the president is under investigation and the collusion between the trump campaign and the Russians. I want to drill right down, as my time is limited, to the most recent dust up regarding allegations that the president of the United States obstructed justice. Boy, you nailed this down on page 5, paragraph 3. You put this in quotes. Words matter. You wrote down the words so we can all have the words in front of us now. There's 28 words now in quotes. It says, quote, I hope -- this is the president speaking -- I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go. He is good guy. I hope you can let this go. Now, those are his exact words, is that correct.
COMEY: Correct.
RISCH: You wrote them here and put them in quotes.
COMEY: Correct.
RISCH: Thank you for that. He did not direct you to let it go?
COMEY: Not in his words, no.
RISCH: He did not order you to let it go?
COMEY: Again, those words are not an order.
COMEY: Correct.
RISCH: You wrote them here and put them in quotes.
COMEY: Correct.
RISCH: Thank you for that. He did not direct you to let it go?
COMEY: Not in his words, no.
RISCH: He did not order you to let it go?
COMEY: Again, those words are not an order.
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Quote:
RISCH: He said, I hope. Now, like me, you probably did hundreds of cases, maybe thousands of cases, charging people with criminal offenses and, of course, you have knowledge of the thousands of cases out there where people have been charged. Do you know of any case where a person has been charged for obstruction of justice or, for that matter, any other criminal offense, where they said or thought they hoped for an outcome?
COMEY: I don't know well enough to answer. The reason I keep saying his words is I took it as a direction.
RISCH: Right.
COMEY: I mean, this is a president of the United States with me alone saying I hope this. I took it as, this is what he wants me to do. I didn't obey that, but that's the way I took it.
RISCH: You may have taken it as a direction but that's not what he said.
COMEY: Correct.
RISCH: He said, I hope.
COMEY: Those are his exact words, correct.
RISCH: You don't know of anyone ever being charged for hoping something, is that a fair statement?
COMEY: I don't as I sit here.
COMEY: I don't know well enough to answer. The reason I keep saying his words is I took it as a direction.
RISCH: Right.
COMEY: I mean, this is a president of the United States with me alone saying I hope this. I took it as, this is what he wants me to do. I didn't obey that, but that's the way I took it.
RISCH: You may have taken it as a direction but that's not what he said.
COMEY: Correct.
RISCH: He said, I hope.
COMEY: Those are his exact words, correct.
RISCH: You don't know of anyone ever being charged for hoping something, is that a fair statement?
COMEY: I don't as I sit here.
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Just in case any deniers decided to show up
So, any "analysis" or reports that says otherwise, well, is detached from reality.
What says you, the 3 reality deniers?
Quote:
BURR: Director Comey, did the president at any time ask you to stop the FBI investigation into Russian involvement in the 2016 U.S. Elections?
COMEY: Not to my understanding, no.
COMEY: Not to my understanding, no.
So, any "analysis" or reports that says otherwise, well, is detached from reality.
What says you, the 3 reality deniers?
Again, you are mixing things.
Quote:
BURR: Director, when the president requested that you, and I quote "Let Flynn go," General Flynn had an unreported contact with the Russians, which is an offense, and if press accounts are right, there might have been discrepancies between facts and his FBI testimony. In your estimation, was general Flynn at that time in serious legal jeopardy, and in addition to that, do you sense that the president was trying to obstruct justice or just seek for a way for Mike Flynn to save face, given that he had already been fired?
COMEY: General Flynn at that point in time was in legal jeopardy. There was an open FBI criminal investigation of his statements in connection with the Russian contacts, and the contacts themselves, and so that was my assessment at the time. I don't think it's for me to say whether the conversation I had with the president was an effort to obstruct. I took it as a very disturbing thing, very concerning, but that's a conclusion I'm sure the special counsel will work towards to try and understand what the intention was there, and whether that's an offense.
COMEY: General Flynn at that point in time was in legal jeopardy. There was an open FBI criminal investigation of his statements in connection with the Russian contacts, and the contacts themselves, and so that was my assessment at the time. I don't think it's for me to say whether the conversation I had with the president was an effort to obstruct. I took it as a very disturbing thing, very concerning, but that's a conclusion I'm sure the special counsel will work towards to try and understand what the intention was there, and whether that's an offense.
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
So, basically, when asked a direct question "Did the president tell you to stop an investigation" and answered "No" it really means "Yes" to you?
It means whatever makes him feel better.
Comey is really under Trumps mind control and any day now they will get the real testimony.
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I think we can stop all this *** and get back to bashing Kathy Griffin.
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Until the investigation is complete it is all speculation.
Other things and news are happening beyond this investigation. Not everyone is obsessed with it.
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Viciouss said: »
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Go ahead and find where I said that Comey never made that statement.
Its become a daily occurrence that KN makes up somebody's position so he can troll them. Like I said, entertaining day. And now nausi is here to make us laugh as well.
Get your giggles out now. It's going to be a big letdown when Comey's testimony doesn't even come close to nailing Trump for anything illegal whatsoever.
Even though that's exactly why he was elected in the first place. Better not tell the reality deniers that.
This just nails it. Trump isn't a good politician, he didn't grease the right political palms, didn't make the right "friends" in various commitee's and doesn't make the political elite feel comfortable that they are still masters of the world.
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
So, basically, when asked a direct question "Did the president tell you to stop an investigation" and answered "No" it really means "Yes" to you?
lol again, the question was not about "any" investigation.
Quote:
BURR: Did any individual working for this administration, including the justice department, ask you to stop the Russian investigation?
Quote:
RISCH: He said, I hope. Now, like me, you probably did hundreds of cases, maybe thousands of cases, charging people with criminal offenses and, of course, you have knowledge of the thousands of cases out there where people have been charged. Do you know of any case where a person has been charged for obstruction of justice or, for that matter, any other criminal offense, where they said or thought they hoped for an outcome?
COMEY: I don't know well enough to answer. The reason I keep saying his words is I took it as a direction.
RISCH: Right.
COMEY: I mean, this is a president of the United States with me alone saying I hope this. I took it as, this is what he wants me to do. I didn't obey that, but that's the way I took it.
RISCH: You may have taken it as a direction but that's not what he said.
COMEY: Correct.
RISCH: He said, I hope.
COMEY: Those are his exact words, correct.
RISCH: You don't know of anyone ever being charged for hoping something, is that a fair statement?
COMEY: I don't as I sit here.
COMEY: I don't know well enough to answer. The reason I keep saying his words is I took it as a direction.
RISCH: Right.
COMEY: I mean, this is a president of the United States with me alone saying I hope this. I took it as, this is what he wants me to do. I didn't obey that, but that's the way I took it.
RISCH: You may have taken it as a direction but that's not what he said.
COMEY: Correct.
RISCH: He said, I hope.
COMEY: Those are his exact words, correct.
RISCH: You don't know of anyone ever being charged for hoping something, is that a fair statement?
COMEY: I don't as I sit here.
Again, I ask the question, in your reality, did Trump tell Comey to stop any investigations? Any meaning all.
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
fonewear said: »
Until the investigation is complete it is all speculation.
Exactly, as Comey said it's up to Mueller to decide.
Ohh NOW your for waiting until investigations are done before determining conclusions. Why just a few months ago you were absolutely confident that Trump did something illegal, despite the investigation not being anywhere near complete.
Yeah just another hypocrite.
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We still have tax reform health care bill infrastructure other things are happening. You just don't hear the press talking about it.
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
From Comey viewpoint, he asked him to, like you just said. Now if that's considered illegal is up to Mueller, but if you want my personal opinion about this, I'd say it's possible but I feel like it's a stretch.
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Quote:
RISCH: He said, I hope. Now, like me, you probably did hundreds of cases, maybe thousands of cases, charging people with criminal offenses and, of course, you have knowledge of the thousands of cases out there where people have been charged. Do you know of any case where a person has been charged for obstruction of justice or, for that matter, any other criminal offense, where they said or thought they hoped for an outcome?
COMEY: I don't know well enough to answer. The reason I keep saying his words is I took it as a direction.
RISCH: Right.
COMEY: I mean, this is a president of the United States with me alone saying I hope this. I took it as, this is what he wants me to do. I didn't obey that, but that's the way I took it.
RISCH: You may have taken it as a direction but that's not what he said.
COMEY: Correct.
RISCH: He said, I hope.
COMEY: Those are his exact words, correct.
RISCH: You don't know of anyone ever being charged for hoping something, is that a fair statement?
COMEY: I don't as I sit here.
COMEY: I don't know well enough to answer. The reason I keep saying his words is I took it as a direction.
RISCH: Right.
COMEY: I mean, this is a president of the United States with me alone saying I hope this. I took it as, this is what he wants me to do. I didn't obey that, but that's the way I took it.
RISCH: You may have taken it as a direction but that's not what he said.
COMEY: Correct.
RISCH: He said, I hope.
COMEY: Those are his exact words, correct.
RISCH: You don't know of anyone ever being charged for hoping something, is that a fair statement?
COMEY: I don't as I sit here.
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