Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
I am Rawry
I guess I'll do better at keeping track of the people who post on a bajillion accounts for no apparent reason. Since when did Josi become a role model?
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Phoenix.Sehachan said: » I am Rawry I guess I'll do better at keeping track of the people who post on a bajillion accounts for no apparent reason. Since when did Josi become a role model? It's the same account.
Valefor.Rawry said: » It's the same account. Characters, whatever. Asura.Kingnobody said: » guarantee[/b] everyone that you have some issue with them, and it has to do with Trump picking them. Which is *shock* my point. And its a failed point. Betsy Devos is a failed education "activist." Her failures have nothing to do with Trump picking her. Viciouss said: » And its a failed point. Betsy Devos is a failed education "activist." Her failures have nothing to do with Trump picking her. Or is this alternative facts I keep hearing about.
Where make believe is real? You just got to believe! Asura.Kingnobody said: » So, tell us all why Gorsuch shouldn't be a Supreme Court Justice. Mattis received broad support from both parties. Because he's, you know... qualified.
The guy's name is Mattis. ....
Cerberus.Pleebo said: » Your attempted point was that most of the criticism of Devos was Trump related when it's been about her lack of credentials. Somebody who's sole objective is to lobby for substandard education practices and actually was responsible for instituting one of the worst educational standards known to date? And he is more qualified than DeVos? Viciouss said: » The guy's name is Mattis. .... Don't know why it said Mathus. Seriously don't, cause I swear I wrote Mattis.... Viciouss said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » guarantee[/b] everyone that you have some issue with them, and it has to do with Trump picking them. Which is *shock* my point. And its a failed point. Betsy Devos is a failed education "activist." Her failures have nothing to do with Trump picking her. If you have a problem with failed activists, there are a lot of judges that Obama appointed that you should be taking issue with. On the topic of education, DeVos could have done much better in those hearings. I'll give you guys that. But when every appointee (or, more generally, everything that Trump does period) is the hill that the Left wants to die on, suddenly you don't have many resources on the hills that actually matter. And behold, she got through as a result, as did/will everyone else. Asura.Kingnobody said: » ...so wait, an union president is a better choice in your mind? Somebody who's sole objective is to lobby for substandard education practices and actually was responsible for instituting one of the worst educational standards known to date? And he is more qualified than DeVos? Bahamut.Ravael said: » But when every appointee (or, more generally, everything that Trump does period) is the hill that the Left wants to die on, suddenly you don't have many resources on the hills that actually matter. Asura.Kingnobody said: » he is more qualified than DeVos? what *** are we using for measuring? he graduated with honors in sociology, he was the Chief Executive Officer of the Chicago Public Schools... and other than common core *** (which came later) he probably seemed like a pretty solid pick at the time... on paper.... Cerberus.Pleebo said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » ...so wait, an union president is a better choice in your mind? Somebody who's sole objective is to lobby for substandard education practices and actually was responsible for instituting one of the worst educational standards known to date? And he is more qualified than DeVos? Bahamut.Ravael said: » But when every appointee (or, more generally, everything that Trump does period) is the hill that the Left wants to die on, suddenly you don't have many resources on the hills that actually matter. Cerberus.Pleebo said: » You're still gonna read whatever you want anyway so I guess it doesn't matter. You're terrible at this.
Shiva.Nikolce said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » he is more qualified than DeVos? what *** are we using for measuring? he graduated with honors in sociology, he was the Chief Executive Officer of the Chicago Public Schools... and other than common core *** (which came later) he probably seemed like a pretty solid pick at the time... on paper.... Quote: Opinions vary on Duncan's success as CEO; one prominent publication notes improved test scores and describes Duncan as a consensus builder, while another finds the improvements largely a myth and is troubled by the closing of neighborhood schools and their replacement by charter schools, and what it describes as schools' militarization. Still doesn't sound like an overall success story that some He was pushing Common Core before he became SoEd. And regardless of what Pleebo says, even the most liberal media is saying that Common Core is a failure. Over, and over, and over, and over again. Cerberus.Pleebo said: » Except every candidate wasn't. You just need to believe that in order to delegitimize all the valid criticism. I've heard whining about over half of them, and most of the other half hasn't been confirmed yet so I'm assuming that the rest of the whining is coming soon. There is outrage on practically everything Trump does, which weakens the argument against the things that are actually problematic. The obstructionism already makes the stuff used against Obama look like child's play. Bahamut.Ravael said: » Cerberus.Pleebo said: » Except every candidate wasn't. You just need to believe that in order to delegitimize all the valid criticism. I've heard whining about over half of them, and most of the other half hasn't been confirmed yet so I'm assuming that the rest of the whining is coming soon. There is outrage on practically everything Trump does, which weakens the argument against the things that are actually problematic. The obstructionism already makes the stuff used against Obama look like child's play. They literally have nothing against him other than the fact that Trump nominated him. One could replace Gorsuch with Garland and Trump with Obama and the same would hold true.
Let's not act like one group is above employing such tactics. Lakshmi.Zerowone said: » One could replace Gorsuch with Garland and Trump with Obama and the same would hold true. Let's not act like one group is above employing such tactics. It's slightly different, in that this is a nominee in the beginning of a presidency. The Dems lost a lot of justification to cry foul with Garland after what Biden said about final year appointments. Would the Republicans be doing this if Clinton had won? I dunno. Would it surprise me? Well, I think Congress is full of idiots on both sides anyway, so nothing surprises me. Bahamut.Ravael said: » Would the Republicans be doing this if Clinton had won? I dunno. Then again, Republicans rarely show moral platitudes. Cerberus.Pleebo said: » it was nice to see at least two Republicans willing to put country before party. booo, they weren't mine. There is no Biden rule. A comment made 20+ years ago and never actually put into action doesn't create a rule. The Dems can do whatever they want with Gorsuch and be fine, they aren't feeling any pressure.
Viciouss said: » There is no Biden rule. A comment made 20+ years ago and never actually put into action doesn't create a rule. The Dems can do whatever they want with Gorsuch and be fine, they aren't feeling any pressure. Joe Biden said: "Given the unusual rancor that prevailed in the (Clarence) Thomas nomination, the need for some serious reevaluation of the nomination and confirmation process, and the overall level of bitterness that sadly infects our political system and this presidential campaign already, it is my view that the prospects for anything but conflagration with respect to a Supreme Court nomination this year are remote at best." YouTube Video Placeholder Incoming "He never said that/You are taking him out of context/That's not what he said/<insert deflection excuse>" excuse Mattis was confirmed 99-1
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