November 2016 Version Update

I think I gained ~100 attk without last resort/hasso up on my drk.
~200 with it.
Something like that.
Crap gear so:
1331 attk without lr/hasso.
1698 attk with

BTW, I'm already a little salty at the prospect of PUP getting on this pet set at the expense of potentially getting left off the "light DD" set. I guess if the H2H changes are strong enough, there's potentially some logic in not continuing to give PUP access to basically all of the same gear MNK gets (while also having a puppet that is now EASILY capable of more than making up for MNK's native JAs/traits). But it still brings me back to the bad old days of PUP getting excluded from DD gear and crammed onto garbage mage sets...

Considering S-E said they had 10 months of sets planned out, and we had the first 5 sets with Salvage models, it seems like this round might end up doing some sort of split of the light DD/ranged jobs from the original Denali/Homam sets. Tali'ah also shows that they aren't necessarily against completely changing the set of jobs from those that were on the old sets with same model.

1) Flamma: WAR PLD DRK SAM DRG (Heavy DD set)
2) Tali'ah: BST SMN PUP (Pet job set)
?) Goliard model? (mage set?): WHM BLM RDM BRD SCH GEO

And some mix of the 8 remaining "light DD"/ranged jobs (MNK THF NIN RNG BLU COR DNC RUN) across the Denali and Homam model sets? Will be interesting to see the breakdown. THF/RNG/NIN/COR is a pairing we've seen, so maybe stick them on the Denali-looking set? But that would leave a pretty odd mix of MNK/BLU/DNC/RUN for the other. I'm curious, at least...

New Smite values:

Smite1 - 25/256 (9.765625% att boost; same as old Smite3)

Smite2 - 38/256 (14.84375% att boost; same as old Smite5)

Smite3 - 51/256 (19.921875% att boost)

Smite4 - 64/256 (25% att boost)

Smite5 - 76/256 (29.6875% att boost)

WOW, that's insane!
Inc resolution nerf!

Those are really nice values, but for the purpose of jobs who were suffering from lack of invites (MNK, PUP, etc) how is this gonna change things?
In a scenario where you're not superbuffed sure, it's gonna be awesome.
But in Zerg scenarios where you have Bolster Idris Frailty + Dia2 i.e. when your attack is capped for the current target, how is Smite gonna make a difference?

Honest question.

Answer.

Checked the Alchemy Guild, the limit for today's item, Stun Knife, was 21,600 points instead of the previous 7,200. Aprons and crap don't seem so bad to get anymore.

edit: Worth noting that some items are going to be worth more than old Wiki lists them for since they'd cap on a single trade. Seems like they give the same amount of GP as they would yield in gil to a NPC.

OH ***FOR REAL? Hot like fire. but WAY overdue.

Anybody knows what this is about?


There's no new monster to rear, so what are the new items added?

The Shinobi Hakama guild point limit went from 6,400 to 19,200 today, so it seems like they tripled the limit.

Sandals went from 4000 to 12000 (Leather), Brass Finger Gauntlets from 3280 to 9840 (Gold). Triple GP is nice.

not seeing anything impressive with h2h.... just saying.

but ffs 1810 attack base with reso now and i dont even have hq abj..... easily 1900+ on a full argosy+1 reso set, 0 buffs.

Eyeballed stuff a bit on my 100JP Mnk on some mosquitoes.

Smite seems to do around 5K without impetus. Roughly 8k with impetus but I have seen a 15K Smite once... so it might be possible with better equips to do it more often.

Howling Fist is about 5-8k. Haven't seen 10k+

Side note: I saw some 1k+ counters with Perfect Counter. Is this normal?

And, called it. Started blowing mnk too soon. nothing has changed.

I am at 1914 still missing 2 HQ pieces

What's the meaning of :


Did they make so H2H have a higher "cap" on attack? That would make the new values on Smite JT more useful I guess.

Don't bother H2h still garbage.

Probably raised the qRatio cap. Same thing they did to 2H melee and why they are good in buffed situations.

As I mentioned earlier, you can buy the pagodite from the green thumb moogle now.

Ok I'm capping GP on everything at this point then.

Many months ago they changed the ratio at which DEX and STR convert to Acc and Att for one handed weapons and H2H.
It used to be 2:1 for 1H/H2H and 4:3 for 2H.

The changes they made:
DEX>Acc is now 4:3 for all weapon types and all slots (Main, Sub)
STR>Att is now 4:3 for 2H and 1H (Mainhand)
STR>Att is now a different value (can't remember) for H2H
I assume this value didn't change for H2H since there's no mention of it in the patch notes.


qRatio caps at 3.25 (normal) and 4.25 (crits) for 1H/H2H, whereas 3.75/4.75 for 2H.
If Saevel's assumption is correct now H2H falls in the second category as well.

Supposing this is right a fully buffed MNK or PUP will now deal roughly ~15% more damage than they did before.
Which is... nice? But I'm afraid nowhere close to what was needed for MNK and PUP. Realistically what they needed to change was about WS damage, white damage alone (while relatively relevant in the current metagame) was already okaish.


The buff to Smite is gonna affect a lot of jobs, not just MNK and PUP. It's gonna affect everyone who subs /WAR or /DRK as well.
Overall I think we can say it makes att buff stacking a bit less necessary to reach the cap. So in many situations you can avoid a Fury or a Chaos roll, or you can avoid Bolster maybe, and still reach the cap.
Furthermore this makes Minuets slightly more relevant since their value is static and added before the % bonus from other buffs, Smite included.

tl;dr
Things got slightly better for H2H users but we're still nowhere close to where things should be?


Someone feel free to correct me please.

Another thing to notice is that this kinda creates different scenarios for mixed setups, i.e. setups where you're putting together different jobs in the same pt.
Because with this buff to Smite, different jobs are gonna need different buffs.

A group of DRKs and WARs will cap attack way sooner than MNKs, who will cap sooner than PUP and other jobs /WAR who will cap sooner than jobs without Smite.
This means that in some of these groups you're gonna want less att buffs (in favour of something else) just like with a group of BLUs you don't really want haste/marches, which are likely still needed for everybody else.

Basically some combinations got worse than before if you want to avoid wasting buffs (too much haste, too much attack).
Not sure if this is a positive or negative change. Things were already like this to a certain extent but it seems to me with this buff to smite they just got even worse?

Anyone done any tests with SMN? Physical BPS with Nirvana gonna be sweet.

+29% Attack from Smite V is actually quite nice.

Current guild point item for GS is a gold buckler. It now takes 5 to get a total of 19,920 points. Kind of a nice little change.

There's some tests from Papesse in the SMN thread.

Ty

GP item for Bonecraft was Tigerfangs.

Can now trade in 6 of them for 19,440 GP. I'm liking this a lot.

Anyone seen any new homepoints? Apparently there's one in Tavnasia upstairs

Straight from the patch notes: