04-18-2012 04:50 AM
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[dev1113] Job Adjustments: Dancer
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NVM! i actually read it
It's more like, being at a bar, trying to go home with one really hot person all night, but finally settling and banging the 5.0 who has been trying to buy you drinks all night.
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O.O;;
why can't I have 20 points for Rank 2 Merits on DNC ; ;
why can't I have 20 points for Rank 2 Merits on DNC ; ;
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't this justify only putting in one merit in Saber Dance and 5/5 Fan Dance now? I personally don't really see sambas wearing off too quickly at all. I guess it depends on the extension of the duration, but I feel that waltz recast is much much more important.
Phoenix.Dabackpack said: »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't this justify only putting in one merit in Saber Dance and 5/5 Fan Dance now? I personally don't really see sambas wearing off too quickly at all. I guess it depends on the extension of the duration, but I feel that waltz recast is much much more important.
No.
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Etoile_Tights_%2B2
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Phoenix.Dabackpack said: »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't this justify only putting in one merit in Saber Dance and 5/5 Fan Dance now? I personally don't really see sambas wearing off too quickly at all. I guess it depends on the extension of the duration, but I feel that waltz recast is much much more important.
If you're in a supporting role, you should have Haste Samba up. In other words, waltz recast tied to Fan Dance is more or less completely worthless.
The fact that Fan Dance increases your enmity is just insult to injury on the worthlessness of the upgrade, except for niche solos.
DNC is still not an effective main healer. It still won't be, even with with the "new" Fan Dance up.
The only difference this update will make is that the average DNC is going to get even worse.
The fact that Fan Dance increases your enmity is just insult to injury on the worthlessness of the upgrade, except for niche solos.
DNC is still not an effective main healer. It still won't be, even with with the "new" Fan Dance up.
The only difference this update will make is that the average DNC is going to get even worse.
Phoenix.Dabackpack said: »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't this justify only putting in one merit in Saber Dance and 5/5 Fan Dance now? I personally don't really see sambas wearing off too quickly at all. I guess it depends on the extension of the duration, but I feel that waltz recast is much much more important.
Bismarck.Phetty said: »
Phoenix.Dabackpack said: »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't this justify only putting in one merit in Saber Dance and 5/5 Fan Dance now? I personally don't really see sambas wearing off too quickly at all. I guess it depends on the extension of the duration, but I feel that waltz recast is much much more important.
Not really.
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Etoile_Tights_%2B2
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tl;dr Improved Samba Duration is just icing on the cake for why 5/5 Saber Dance is still the best.
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Not trying to argue with you Sylow, but wouldn't you only really need to merit it up to three minutes for maximum effectiveness? With a recast of 3 minutes having it last 3.5 minutes would be a waste, correct? Or am I viewing this completely backwards?
Edit: Or does (with the Etoile pants) the extra 5% beat out any other merit options we have?
Edit: Or does (with the Etoile pants) the extra 5% beat out any other merit options we have?
mortontony1 said: »
Edit: Or does (with the Etoile pants) the extra 5% beat out any other merit options we have?
Yes.
mortontony1 said: »
Not trying to argue with you Sylow, but wouldn't you only really need to merit it up to three minutes for maximum effectiveness? With a recast of 3 minutes having it last 3.5 minutes would be a waste, correct? Or am I viewing this completely backwards?
Edit: Or does (with the Etoile pants) the extra 5% beat out any other merit options we have?
Edit: Or does (with the Etoile pants) the extra 5% beat out any other merit options we have?
Increased samba duration means less JA delay (more DoT) and less TP spent (more WS --> more DoT), so it's just a slight bonus.
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Oh :o you mean dancer can actually go above level 49? *runs*
Dun hurt me!
Dun hurt me!
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...why SE! They could have added a new job ability to reduce waltz casting times, and added an evasion bonus to fan dance with extra merits!
I mean there were other ways to go about it!
blah!
I mean there were other ways to go about it!
blah!
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Bismarck.Phetty said: »
Phoenix.Dabackpack said: »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't this justify only putting in one merit in Saber Dance and 5/5 Fan Dance now? I personally don't really see sambas wearing off too quickly at all. I guess it depends on the extension of the duration, but I feel that waltz recast is much much more important.
Not really.
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Etoile_Tights_%2B2
Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Where are my DNC adjustments?
There they are!
02-16-2012 05:54 AM
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There they are!
Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Don't mind me. I'm just a little salty that there haven't been any DNC adjustments for a while.
...although with the haphazard way they wield that nerf bat, maybe I should consider us lucky.
...although with the haphazard way they wield that nerf bat, maybe I should consider us lucky.
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
If you're in a supporting role, you should have Haste Samba up. In other words, waltz recast tied to Fan Dance is more or less completely worthless.
Fan Dance is hardly EVER used in support situations (exception being oshit moments), I'm not suggesting this.
I entirely forgot about those pants being merit based. Thanks for correcting me.
As far as the merits go, the new update does more for a soloing Dancer than one in a supporting role (excluding pants altogether).
The additional couple of seconds of attacking is nice of course, it's just that when you're in a situation where you need Fan Dance, the waltz recast helps you a lot more.
But I agree, 5/5 Saber Dance is still the way to go.
Edit: I don't think I put it the right way:
Essentially, the waltz recast bonus is a better update for Fan Dance than the samba duration for Saber Dance, it's just that most likely you're using Saber Dance so Fan Dance is still not worth meriting.
There are very few situations where fan dance would save you that a PDT set wouldn't.
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90% is a luxury, anyway.
Bismarck.Sylow said: »
There are very few situations where fan dance would save you that a PDT set wouldn't.
One situation being for those of us that aren't dedicated Dancers. I, for one, am still struggling to work with the optimization of other jobs to worry about a PDT set for DNC.
I guess that goes along with the average dancers being worse?
Most of a DNC PDT set works for multiple jobs. 2 Dark rings and you're already halfway to a depleted fan dance.
You should have a PDT set for pretty much any job, and a lot of the gear is shared.
You should have a PDT set for pretty much any job, and a lot of the gear is shared.
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yah ok mr hot shot
next youll be telling me i need DAGGERS to play dancer lol
i liek 2 hit things with my hands and fan danc up k? its gr8 because nothing hurts me when i do things with my friends
next youll be telling me i need DAGGERS to play dancer lol
i liek 2 hit things with my hands and fan danc up k? its gr8 because nothing hurts me when i do things with my friends
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