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 Cerberus.Arcmarc
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By Cerberus.Arcmarc 2011-03-27 22:18:14
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Updated PLD CDC Sets 5/22/13.

Current Set:
ItemSet 207022

Desired Set:

ItemSet 286085

Ideal Set II (easier obtainable gear then desired set)

ItemSet 295814

Hecatomb Mittens +1 best augments would be Crit Damage +4% and Sword Skill +4 and accuracy +6

Hecatomb subligar +1 best augments would be Crit hit rate +4, accuracy +7, and subtle blow + 4

Alternative feet that would be better then Karieyh sollerets, but not as good as augmented Huggin Gambieras are Valkeries Sabatons augmented with Crit hit rate +3, and Crit hit Damage +5%.
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By Asura.Takinagi 2011-03-27 22:25:31
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level blue mage if your not going to use your shield ;p
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By Cerberus.Arcmarc 2011-03-27 22:33:36
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Asura.Takinagi said:
level blue mage if your not going to use your shield ;p

Definaltey somewhat of an option but that's not the point of this thread. However, the offhand is for tp really. I do use a shield depending on the mob.

shield only necessary if i'm /war - when /nin if i need a shield i'm not doing it right.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-27 22:41:49
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Asura.Takinagi said:
level blue mage if your not going to use your shield ;p
Why would he need a shield when the mob is looking at the mnk? He may as well optimize his damage.
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By Cerberus.Exiled 2011-03-27 22:42:09
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lolpld
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By Cerberus.Arcmarc 2011-03-27 22:52:30
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Asura.Takinagi said:
level blue mage if your not going to use your shield ;p
Why would he need a shield when the mob is looking at the mnk? He may as well optimize his damage.

aftermath 500 damage crits + capped haste 230 delay. you can do the math but with pld enmity and that kind of damage, its no longer looking at the mnk my friend.
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By Cerberus.Arcmarc 2011-03-27 22:53:01
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Cerberus.Exiled said:
lolpld

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By Serj 2011-03-27 22:53:46
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Cerberus.Arcmarc said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Asura.Takinagi said:
level blue mage if your not going to use your shield ;p
Why would he need a shield when the mob is looking at the mnk? He may as well optimize his damage.

aftermath 500 damage crits + capped haste 230 delay. you can do the math but with pld enmity and that kind of damage, its no longer looking at the mnk my friend.

lolwat?
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2011-03-27 22:54:11
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Cerberus.Arcmarc said:
I have the full creed+2 set and was thinking of using the cuirass instead of twilight mail for the attack+ instead of 15 dex... thoughts?

The 15STR on the Mail is giving you ~7-8 Attack so the remaining 12 Attack will get destroyed by the 15DEX, especially if the STR is contributing fSTR. Mail easily.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-27 22:57:35
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Serj said:
Cerberus.Arcmarc said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Asura.Takinagi said:
level blue mage if your not going to use your shield ;p
Why would he need a shield when the mob is looking at the mnk? He may as well optimize his damage.

aftermath 500 damage crits + capped haste 230 delay. you can do the math but with pld enmity and that kind of damage, its no longer looking at the mnk my friend.

lolwat?
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By Cerberus.Arcmarc 2011-03-27 23:01:25
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also- light or snow gorget, or does it not matter? i have both
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2011-03-27 23:02:36
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Snow and Aqua should both work.

EDIT: To clarify, some doubt has been cast lately regarding the level 3 skillchain element when associated with a weapon and how it interacts with the weaponskill gorget line of equipment. It is fairly clear that its component elements aren't sufficient but whether using the Gorget which is the namesake of that element (ie Light for Light or Shadow for Darkness) is unclear. However, Snow should 100% work.
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By Cerberus.Arcmarc 2011-03-27 23:04:31
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mnks are basically like a leech. engage a mob, then walk away for 5 minute, of course thats only if you're dual boxing a whm.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-27 23:05:52
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Cerberus.Arcmarc said:
mnks are basically like a leech. engage a mob, then walk away for 5 minute, of course thats only if you're dual boxing a whm.
over-exaggerate.png
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-27 23:21:35
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Stick with Cuch belt, sub NIN for DD, and...
Cerberus.Arcmarc said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Asura.Takinagi said:
level blue mage if your not going to use your shield ;p
Why would he need a shield when the mob is looking at the mnk? He may as well optimize his damage.

aftermath 500 damage crits + capped haste 230 delay. you can do the math but with pld enmity and that kind of damage, its no longer looking at the mnk my friend.
oh look, another PLD who doesn't know how enmity works.

EDIT: actually if you're using /NIN to offhand Joyeuse I dunno, probably /WAR.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-03-27 23:33:29
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It's 224 delay and that's why the mob would look at you more often than the mnk since you would be attacking faster. Equipping a second swd would improve your dps but then your attack speed would be slower than any other job that tanks so it wouldn't look at you as often
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-27 23:34:57
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I know that (you know I know that!), but he said it was because of enmity+ and damage rather than the fact that he was recapping VE more often.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-03-27 23:36:31
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Pretty sure my rdm can maintain capped emnity now :). *** yeah getting all Pantokrator drops including atma for 4mil :). Also I was more talking to him about that lol

brb making melee rdm builds ;)
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By Ifrit.Zerovirus 2011-03-27 23:42:26
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If you have heca for legs and feet possibly hands i'd use those. Set looks good to me tho.

On another note, i'm all for people going out and *** around on pld, but for the love of god don't tank anymore. Any half way decent dd can rip hate off of you and keep it, abyssea only furthered this with reducing/eliminating the mp strain.
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-03-27 23:46:32
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Lithe boots will beat Hecatomb(+1)inside of abyssea, with cruor buffs and Atma FSTR caps almost instantly, making the extra STR on hecatomb not as impressive.
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By Cerberus.Arcmarc 2011-03-27 23:47:09
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it's really just *** around - i do understand that topics like this attract a ***ton of trolls.. its nice some people actually want to offer something useful
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-03-27 23:47:25
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Again Pld would keep hate if they single wielded... ability to get hate means pretty much nothing anymore unless the mob hate resets. All about who swung last. Though a very on top of his game tank could time mob swings and time it so that they take some kind of action right before the mob swings to help ensure they take most the hits. Have fun with that though :)
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-27 23:49:27
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Whether it's worthwhile as opposed to just killing the mob faster, on the other hand...

Anyway, on topic: why Sentinel Shield? And Centaurus Earring should perform better than Thunder Pearl in most situations.
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By Cerberus.Arcmarc 2011-03-27 23:51:18
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sentinel to cap haste - dont have vbelt.. not looking to reduce damage looking for most damage output
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By Cerberus.Arcmarc 2011-03-27 23:52:04
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i am on second stage for ochain but not going to be finishing that for a while, but i will be finishing it
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-27 23:52:38
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Cerberus.Arcmarc said:
sentinel to cap haste - dont have vbelt.. not looking to reduce damage looking for most damage output
No Zelus?
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By Cerberus.Arcmarc 2011-03-27 23:54:00
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
I know that (you know I know that!), but he said it was because of enmity+ and damage rather than the fact that he was recapping VE more often.

was basically restating what you said just not in so many words...
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By Cerberus.Arcmarc 2011-03-27 23:56:40
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Cerberus.Arcmarc said:
sentinel to cap haste - dont have vbelt.. not looking to reduce damage looking for most damage output
No Zelus?

i have veloce zuchetto atm - will be getting the tiara when i get it but yea, until then need the shield to cap haste

this is tp set:




edit: with sentinel shield though
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-27 23:57:57
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Cerberus.Arcmarc said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
I know that (you know I know that!), but he said it was because of enmity+ and damage rather than the fact that he was recapping VE more often.

was basically restating what you said just not in so many words...
not really lol

Cerberus.Arcmarc said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Cerberus.Arcmarc said:
sentinel to cap haste - dont have vbelt.. not looking to reduce damage looking for most damage output
No Zelus?

i have veloce zuchetto atm - will be getting the tiara when i get it but yea, until then need the shield to cap haste

this is tp set:




edit: with sentinel shield though
Gotcha. Needs more Suppa!

EDIT: Not necessarily in a single-wield set given you probably don't need accuracy BUT given you also have NIN it would be good to have!
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By Cerberus.Arcmarc 2011-03-28 00:04:09
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i just threw away my bushi! waiting for full moon lol
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